Whilst I respect whatever his reasons were for leaving, I appreciated his posts so much and he was surely a compassionate fellow who came up with some insightful topics of conversation here.

I can't find anyone called Furfg. Where is their post?

It seems all was deleted, incl. userprofile.

He was rather active in starting discussions, mainly in the "messy minds" group and perhaps the non-wam forum. See a lot "thread deleted" placeholders, though not all were Furfg's discussions.

It's a shame when people go their posts also go. Many a good conversation (and telling rant) has been lost by deletions.

Have seen the discussion whether members should be allowed to delete their contributions or not on more fora.

In my opinion a difficult one, both options have their pros and cons. Whereas online safety comes in as an important factor, maybe even more on a kink-related forum as UMD.

I do remember this ex-member and as always seemed to be under the impression that he/she was struggling with their own personal demons. Their avatar, as I seem to remember, was Wile E Coyote being pied in the face!

I do hope they are OK. Quite often people make the decision to opt out of a group or lifestyle and burn everything behind them. If you ask any person here who is of my persuasion then they will tell you it is a common trait. I should imagine the same exists in the fetish world. However, being the cult UMD is I am sure they will be back after they have got their house in order!

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Like a lot of the previous posts here , some folks struggle with this 'issue'....

It isn't a 'normal' thing that people like to do, and I tried to fight this 'fetish' myself, but somehow, 'who knows' , it's what we like to do.....

And as long as we're not hurting anyone, or doin' bad things to people, unless they want those things to happen to 'em..... You just have to move on and accept it......

I'm not sure I'd call it an issue or even abnormal. Lots of the TV I watched as a child was full of kids getting pied, gunged or dirty on gameshows/quizzes/morning TV. Somehow adults decided this doesn't continue to be natural when your an adult, despite other philosophies advocating look after your inner child, don't stop playing, etc. But somehow getting dirty whilst playing sports is okay/expected.

In lots of ways, in my opinion, playing with messy substances is cleaner than playing with a backside, and literally everyone has given that a go! So, using substances to stimulate your touch sensation seems pretty normal to me.

Well, there is a school of thought these days, (though I'm not too sure how popular it is.....), that parents should encourage their kids to get dirty, muddy, etc., as somehow it makes their 'immunity' to things better when they get older.......

And as for 'sports', don't know how things are back in the 'U.K.', but here in the 'States, a large majority of our 'sports-fields' have gone to 'artificial-turf', (mostly for cost reasons...), So the kids and even the 'Pros' never get their uniforms dirty....... But I always 'enjoyed' a good game played in the mud........

I wondered if they'd been on the site a couple of years earlier and deleted their account once already - there was another account I remember from someone in the furry community who started threads with a similar tone, also specifically interested in pies.

It's completely needed from a safety point of view. Many years ago I had the extremely unpleasant experience of having someone I'd met through the BDSM community and met up with in real life track me down on UMD and start posting about me. I had moved to a different job and area between them breaking off contact with
me and them starting to post on here. Luckily the mods on here were amazing removing anything that identified my on or off line self from posts pausing the users ability to post and as soon as they had established that I wasn't being paranoid and was being targeted the user was banned and all their posts and threads they'd started about me deleted. When other folk I'd met through splunches etc started similar threatening behaviour I pulled the plug on my profiles. I'm not sure how long I've had this profile for but I've been around UMD for at least 24 years. When folks that you've met in real life, who know you're real name and have some idea of where you live etc start sending threats through other online means and then 'accidentally' replying to forum posts with your real name then you don't feel safe without the option to pull the plug on the lot of it. Sometimes I miss my original profile and losing all those messages and interactions with people I'd known for years was crushing. Not as crushing as spending every day wondering if someone who's threatening you is going to send an email to your work place or Facebook friend list with a WAM picture showing a birthmark you forgot to edit out. People can be unbelievably cruel when they're confident that they can turn others against you and feel they have nothing to lose themselves.