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Hi Guys,
Hope you are all well??
Speaking of well, that's kinda why I'm here....
Some of you may or may not know I was awarded the "Ray of Sunshine" award at the recent Messtival. Which I am incredibly overwhelmed about.
In my acceptance speech I touched on the highs and lows I see on this forum, and to raise awareness and to say Thank you I made a donation to Mind Mental Health Charity.
I have been massively touched by the amount of people that came up to me afterwards and have messaged me saying, that they suffer and thank you for bringing attention to the issue, including well known and loved producers.
So what I'm asking is what more can we/I do to help?
would a chatroom or group on here purely based on mental health issues and support work?
Could we have a closed group where people have to ask to join, where you can post your own stories, so members didn't feel alone?
Would a link to support groups outside the fetish help?
I don't know? Any ideas? Or is this not the right place for it?
Thoughts? xx
Hope you are all well??
Speaking of well, that's kinda why I'm here....
Some of you may or may not know I was awarded the "Ray of Sunshine" award at the recent Messtival. Which I am incredibly overwhelmed about.
In my acceptance speech I touched on the highs and lows I see on this forum, and to raise awareness and to say Thank you I made a donation to Mind Mental Health Charity.
I have been massively touched by the amount of people that came up to me afterwards and have messaged me saying, that they suffer and thank you for bringing attention to the issue, including well known and loved producers.
So what I'm asking is what more can we/I do to help?
would a chatroom or group on here purely based on mental health issues and support work?
Could we have a closed group where people have to ask to join, where you can post your own stories, so members didn't feel alone?
Would a link to support groups outside the fetish help?
I don't know? Any ideas? Or is this not the right place for it?
Thoughts? xx
7/24/19, 3:53am: moved from Store Owners to Messy Minds and gender changed from female to n/a
Congratulations on the award! And wow, what a move you made. I'm sad that I couldn't have been more a part of it and have watched your speech. It's amazing to use what visibility you have to bring attention to something that effects us all.
I'm all in for supporting the cause on UMD any way we can. I love the idea of us doing a little bit more for the outside world, if we can still keep the on-topic areas on-topic. You can link to any external sites from your profile's social areas, including those outside support groups. I could indeed create private Groups for such a cause, which would be pretty much separate from UMD itself but useable for any member. I'm just wondering if a UMD group would be a good enough platform for such a thing? If guess it goes without saying that the Off-topic forum is always there, but if any threads there seem relevant, we could easily move them into a dedicated group later. We can really do anything, so I'm down to hear ideas.
I like where this is going
I'm all in for supporting the cause on UMD any way we can. I love the idea of us doing a little bit more for the outside world, if we can still keep the on-topic areas on-topic. You can link to any external sites from your profile's social areas, including those outside support groups. I could indeed create private Groups for such a cause, which would be pretty much separate from UMD itself but useable for any member. I'm just wondering if a UMD group would be a good enough platform for such a thing? If guess it goes without saying that the Off-topic forum is always there, but if any threads there seem relevant, we could easily move them into a dedicated group later. We can really do anything, so I'm down to hear ideas.
I like where this is going
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I like the idea of a group closed or not I don't personally mind and would back up whatever is decided
Sometimes people aren't aware of the help that is out there, and it can take a while to get to the stage of realising help is needed, so links to mental health resources for various countries could well be a good thing. As well as generally not feeling alone. I'm happy to share my story if it helps people recognise signs/symptoms, not feel alone, etc
I'm also happy to fundraise if need be, not sure what for at this stage of just throwing ideas around but it's just something that occured to me, if a pot of money could be useful at all for anything any of us can come up with
I'm down for whatever
Love to you Lisa
Sometimes people aren't aware of the help that is out there, and it can take a while to get to the stage of realising help is needed, so links to mental health resources for various countries could well be a good thing. As well as generally not feeling alone. I'm happy to share my story if it helps people recognise signs/symptoms, not feel alone, etc
I'm also happy to fundraise if need be, not sure what for at this stage of just throwing ideas around but it's just something that occured to me, if a pot of money could be useful at all for anything any of us can come up with
I'm down for whatever
Love to you Lisa
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Thanks again Lisa for bringing this up. I'm also keen to help in whatever way I can.
I know that a lot of people go through enough mental health issues as it is, before adding in a fetish that many people feel they need to hide or are ashamed of.
I think at the very least a list of helpful resources in various countries could be very handy, and I can see how somewhere to share information and experiences would also be of benefit.
I'm just not sure how it'd work as a private group exactly. Given that this is not something people usually feel happy talking about I understand why it would want to be out of the main public view, but if people need to request an invite and feel they need to justify being allowed in, it would probably be more off-putting than anything else.
I know that a lot of people go through enough mental health issues as it is, before adding in a fetish that many people feel they need to hide or are ashamed of.
I think at the very least a list of helpful resources in various countries could be very handy, and I can see how somewhere to share information and experiences would also be of benefit.
I'm just not sure how it'd work as a private group exactly. Given that this is not something people usually feel happy talking about I understand why it would want to be out of the main public view, but if people need to request an invite and feel they need to justify being allowed in, it would probably be more off-putting than anything else.
Lisa, your speech was so short, ut so powerful. It was something that I think the greater community needed to hear, and from someone in a position like you. Thank you for that. Also, thank you for being a real ray of sunshine and following up.
The closest thing we have right now to something like that is the "Relationships" group which I keep a pretty close eye on. I've been on both sides of this fence and still struggle so I know what to look for in depression and anxiety.
The difficulty is getting people to open up. Having some back end access I can see that sometimes people will make a thread and then delete it immediately afterwards due to insecurity, or something similar. Most people aren't an open book and willing to share deep, personal parts of their life, ESPECIALLY on a place like a kink website. Although, I do see a bunch of it on fetlife.
Ultimately, everyone chooses their own level of involvement. There are people that have been here since the site opened and made only like 2 or 3 comments in that time. We can extend the hand, but they ultimately have to choose whether or not to take it. We also need to be careful about giving out certain advice that could be perceived as "medical". I'm no psychologist, so I always just listen, try to relate, and suggest medical attention when applicable.
The closest thing we have right now to something like that is the "Relationships" group which I keep a pretty close eye on. I've been on both sides of this fence and still struggle so I know what to look for in depression and anxiety.
The difficulty is getting people to open up. Having some back end access I can see that sometimes people will make a thread and then delete it immediately afterwards due to insecurity, or something similar. Most people aren't an open book and willing to share deep, personal parts of their life, ESPECIALLY on a place like a kink website. Although, I do see a bunch of it on fetlife.
Ultimately, everyone chooses their own level of involvement. There are people that have been here since the site opened and made only like 2 or 3 comments in that time. We can extend the hand, but they ultimately have to choose whether or not to take it. We also need to be careful about giving out certain advice that could be perceived as "medical". I'm no psychologist, so I always just listen, try to relate, and suggest medical attention when applicable.
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Really good points by Jason and Henners.
How about something more like an information page, fixed rather than a group or firum with stories from those of us happy to share, and some relevant info
How about something more like an information page, fixed rather than a group or firum with stories from those of us happy to share, and some relevant info
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Potatoman-J said: We can extend the hand, but they ultimately have to choose whether or not to take it. We also need to be careful about giving out certain advice that could be perceived as "medical". I'm no psychologist, so I always just listen, try to relate, and suggest medical attention when applicable.
Absolutely right - sometimes the nudge that gets someone to go and ask for that help is a friendly word of support or advice... and I do think Candy's on the right lines with her idea.
Candy said: How about something more like an information page, fixed rather than a group or firum with stories from those of us happy to share, and some relevant info
I do think having a single link you can show people in chat or email, twitter etc. might be very useful.
I think the page should contain where to go to ask for help, such as phone or contact details for crisis help in many countries... and perhaps a summary of information like this for each of the key issues:
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/depression/about-depression/?o=9109
As Candy suggests some (possibly anonymous if people prefer) real-life stories can make it easier to relate to and possibly recognise your own struggle.
Once it's ready MM can add a pinned announcement of it, and see what the reaction is, if there's a need for a discussion space we can address that later.
Also, in case anyone is wondering who these people are; take a good look at the Personals section. I call this forum "the graveyard" because it's where the lonely and desperate often go looking.
Hundreds of threads with ZERO replies. Granted, if you look at some of the things people write you can understand why. There are a lot of genuine people that lack social decorum. Often times I don't think people are necessarily born this way but get this way over time.
I saw it happen in myself after my divorce as an example. I was never an extrovert, but in most of my adult years I was secure in myself. But, in the course of one year, I lost a spouse, and most of my friends moved away. Season with some continuing family issues, add a dash of cancer, and I was a recipe for disaster. Social interactions that were once plentiful and easy became rare and thus overthought. I had no grounding in who I was or what to do with life. I was (and still am to a certain degree) a puddle of insecurities and self loathing. Ask Maria, she sort of watched it happen in real time.
You won't find many people willing to share like this with the class. Also some people may open up to some more than others. Also, some people are pretty ok in most parts of life but get really insecure about WAM.
Hundreds of threads with ZERO replies. Granted, if you look at some of the things people write you can understand why. There are a lot of genuine people that lack social decorum. Often times I don't think people are necessarily born this way but get this way over time.
I saw it happen in myself after my divorce as an example. I was never an extrovert, but in most of my adult years I was secure in myself. But, in the course of one year, I lost a spouse, and most of my friends moved away. Season with some continuing family issues, add a dash of cancer, and I was a recipe for disaster. Social interactions that were once plentiful and easy became rare and thus overthought. I had no grounding in who I was or what to do with life. I was (and still am to a certain degree) a puddle of insecurities and self loathing. Ask Maria, she sort of watched it happen in real time.
You won't find many people willing to share like this with the class. Also some people may open up to some more than others. Also, some people are pretty ok in most parts of life but get really insecure about WAM.
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Thank you so much guys..
I'm very sure that between us we can come up with something really helpful.
Our local community has just started a group called " a friendly face" just people supporting other people. I think I was just hoping to make an online wam version, with the essential links that Candy and Henry mention.
I know of quite a few members that would be happy to share stories and coping mechanisms.
I don't think I've even been in the " relationships " group
how bad is that. We can use " off topic" but that does get its own traffic..
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I'm very sure that between us we can come up with something really helpful.
Our local community has just started a group called " a friendly face" just people supporting other people. I think I was just hoping to make an online wam version, with the essential links that Candy and Henry mention.
I know of quite a few members that would be happy to share stories and coping mechanisms.
I don't think I've even been in the " relationships " group
how bad is that. We can use " off topic" but that does get its own traffic.. Xx
I get what you mean Lisa
How about a forum but with a stickied post containing stories of those happy to share, and relevant official support info for various countries as mentioned before.
My only worry with a forum where someone might post hoping for a friend or some help is it accidentally going unanswered for a long period of time which surely could only add to a feeling of isolation, not mattering, that no one cares etc
I wonder if there might be a way to be alerted when there is message
also maybe some kind of disclaimer that the forum isn't monitored 24/7 and if you need immediate help please see insert list of various countries support lines, email services etc
Potatoman I don't think the personals forum is as depressing as it looks on first glance, many of those people will get private responses to their inbox rather than on the actual message. It may not be from the right person, eg a guy looking to get messy with a 19 yr old size 8 blonde model with at least a D cup may get a response from a catfish, or someone of the wrong gender chancing it etc. It's definitely still a pretty quiet place but I just don't think quite as terrible as it appears
How about a forum but with a stickied post containing stories of those happy to share, and relevant official support info for various countries as mentioned before.
My only worry with a forum where someone might post hoping for a friend or some help is it accidentally going unanswered for a long period of time which surely could only add to a feeling of isolation, not mattering, that no one cares etc
I wonder if there might be a way to be alerted when there is message
also maybe some kind of disclaimer that the forum isn't monitored 24/7 and if you need immediate help please see insert list of various countries support lines, email services etc
Potatoman I don't think the personals forum is as depressing as it looks on first glance, many of those people will get private responses to their inbox rather than on the actual message. It may not be from the right person, eg a guy looking to get messy with a 19 yr old size 8 blonde model with at least a D cup may get a response from a catfish, or someone of the wrong gender chancing it etc. It's definitely still a pretty quiet place but I just don't think quite as terrible as it appears
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I love the idea of an alert if someone posts, is that a viable option Derek?
The fortunate thing here will be, this is a global community, so someone somewhere will always be awake. Also I'd like to think members will support each other.
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The fortunate thing here will be, this is a global community, so someone somewhere will always be awake. Also I'd like to think members will support each other.
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CandyCustard said: I get what you mean Lisa
How about a forum but with a stickied post containing stories of those happy to share, and relevant official support info for various countries as mentioned before.
My only worry with a forum where someone might post hoping for a friend or some help is it accidentally going unanswered for a long period of time which surely could only add to a feeling of isolation, not mattering, that no one cares etc
I wonder if there might be a way to be alerted when there is message
How about a forum but with a stickied post containing stories of those happy to share, and relevant official support info for various countries as mentioned before.
My only worry with a forum where someone might post hoping for a friend or some help is it accidentally going unanswered for a long period of time which surely could only add to a feeling of isolation, not mattering, that no one cares etc
I wonder if there might be a way to be alerted when there is message
When I come on here, the first things I normally check for (aside from messages) is stuff in relationships, off topic, and personals regarding real life stuff (again because I've been on that sinking ship). Generally I'm on every day. If something seems serious, I respond and try to at least be an ear. It's not something I'd talk about on the open forums, but it wouldn't be the first time I responded to a suicidal member, or went to visit them. And God willing it never has to happen again.
If there is a core group of people that just check even once a day when they get one, nothing should ever be missed.
also maybe some kind of disclaimer that the forum isn't monitored 24/7 and if you need immediate help please see insert list of various countries support lines, email services etc
That could easily be a sticky in the group forum.
Potatoman I don't think the personals forum is as depressing as it looks on first glance, many of those people will get private responses to their inbox rather than on the actual message. It may not be from the right person, eg a guy looking to get messy with a 19 yr old size 8 blonde model with at least a D cup may get a response from a catfish, or someone of the wrong gender chancing it etc. It's definitely still a pretty quiet place but I just don't think quite as terrible as it appears
That's fair, I honestly didn't think of people replying in PMs without on the forums.
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Speaking as the kind of person who tends to keep anything negative totally bottled up and would tend to shy away from interaction type support on the basis that there are always people with far bigger problems than anything I might have, I'd suggest both a forum/group based option, and an information page with resource links? It would need to be maintained to weed out dead links and add in new ones from time to time, and we'd have to be careful it never pointed anyone to the kind of places that try and make people feel guilt or shame for having a fetish, but something like that could help people who'd never get as far as reaching out to others in a public setting?
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I can't think of any great ideas with my current baby brain, but I'm def keen to be involved as well! Thanks for bringing this up Lisa, and I agree that was a short yet powerful speech! It made me think about how helpful and supportive you and Leon were to me when I visited you guys and had all that crap going on at the time. I'm happy to say I'm in a much better place now after coming home and getting some good professional help with trauma issues I think I was in some ways running from. Candy and Henry also helped me with this loads!!! Yay for umd support!
Reading that forum also made me think about why these personal issues come up so much here. I'm guessing it's because a fetish community is also a secret place where we all show a different side of ourselves so we are already being very vulnerable just by talking within umd. I think this is a great start of an idea. Please keep us updated, and if I think of anything I'll let y'all know! I do think it should be placed somewhere that's easy for people to avoid, as I'm sure many who are just looking for a "fun wank" wont want to see any of this! Haha
Love y'all! Thanks again!
Reading that forum also made me think about why these personal issues come up so much here. I'm guessing it's because a fetish community is also a secret place where we all show a different side of ourselves so we are already being very vulnerable just by talking within umd. I think this is a great start of an idea. Please keep us updated, and if I think of anything I'll let y'all know! I do think it should be placed somewhere that's easy for people to avoid, as I'm sure many who are just looking for a "fun wank" wont want to see any of this! Haha
Love y'all! Thanks again!
First of all, congrats on your award Lisa!
I personally have been through a very dark period for the last couple of years, including alcohol abuse, mariuana abuse when trying to quit the booze, until coming to a western-like standoff between both substances as I try to keep myself mentally together. I'm not going to tell all to much about it right now(a small glance at my profile will probably give you enough intel), but I fully and wholeheartedly support a support page in any shape or form, although I do think that a private group or one-on-one chat would be the most effective tool. I'm willing to step up for this group and help in any way I can. Be it monitoring it, talking to folks, checking dead links, finding other support groups... you name it. I'll probably benefit from it myself as I still have a long path ahead to recovery. All I have learned is that being able to finally be honest about yourself to people, letting those lifetimesecrets go, is one of the biggest reliefs I ever had. And opening up to strangers, eventually makes them the friends most folk really need.
Thank you for opening this subject Lisa, and thanks to you all for giving such a sincere response!
I personally have been through a very dark period for the last couple of years, including alcohol abuse, mariuana abuse when trying to quit the booze, until coming to a western-like standoff between both substances as I try to keep myself mentally together. I'm not going to tell all to much about it right now(a small glance at my profile will probably give you enough intel), but I fully and wholeheartedly support a support page in any shape or form, although I do think that a private group or one-on-one chat would be the most effective tool. I'm willing to step up for this group and help in any way I can. Be it monitoring it, talking to folks, checking dead links, finding other support groups... you name it. I'll probably benefit from it myself as I still have a long path ahead to recovery. All I have learned is that being able to finally be honest about yourself to people, letting those lifetimesecrets go, is one of the biggest reliefs I ever had. And opening up to strangers, eventually makes them the friends most folk really need.
Thank you for opening this subject Lisa, and thanks to you all for giving such a sincere response!
Fear is a mind-killer. Use is as a motivation.
I'd be glad to help and be involved in this.
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Update: I'll put a proposal through to Derek - working title 'Messy Minds' (Lisa's suggestion offline). A friendly place to go - links to professional help and guidance here and there. Fairly light in pitch - a first stop for kinship and advice (if it is asked for). If it works well I might consider starting an external website more integrated with sources of help. If you host, Lisa, I'm happy to be accountable to MM for the moderation.
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LisaMoomin said: I love the idea of an alert if someone posts, is that a viable option Derek?
Yep! The Groups already have it.
Your Following page will tell which groups you're a part of, as well as whether you get notifications or emails.We could start up group for this whenever, so long as we have a few folks to head up moderation on it. I do like the idea of it being for mental health as well as any other issues people might wish to talk about. Rather than a sticky, we could modify the group itself to put helpful links and advice on the right side or the bottom somewhere, or perhaps on a dedicated page.
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Maria, Soaky, Rich, Dm, thank you guys 
, good to have you onboard too!
Great, so as I see it we need lists of helplines and organisations for different countries. Does anyone have time to research this? I know of UK Based ones, but unsure if they are global?
I can do my bit, but research time is in short supply, so would take a while. Or maybe we split up regions and share the load?
Sorry Derek, I should of checked before I asked. I'm in awe of how many extra umd benefits I'm only just learning about
Loving the team work xxx
, good to have you onboard too! Great, so as I see it we need lists of helplines and organisations for different countries. Does anyone have time to research this? I know of UK Based ones, but unsure if they are global?
I can do my bit, but research time is in short supply, so would take a while. Or maybe we split up regions and share the load?
Sorry Derek, I should of checked before I asked. I'm in awe of how many extra umd benefits I'm only just learning about
Loving the team work xxx
I'll be able to dig up some helplines and sites from the Netherlands and Belgium over the next few days. I'm also up for helping with the moderation of the group. I might also need some time to collect the phone numbers and links, as I'm about to move to a new appartment and have two small holidays planned this month.
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LisaMoomin said: Maria, Soaky, Rich, Dm, thank you guys , good to have you onboard too!
Great, so as I see it we need lists of helplines and organisations for different countries. Does anyone have time to research this? I know of UK Based ones, but unsure if they are global?
I can do my bit, but research time is in short supply, so would take a while. Or maybe we split up regions and share the load?
Sorry Derek, I should of checked before I asked. I'm in awe of how many extra umd benefits I'm only just learning about
Loving the team work xxx
, good to have you onboard too! Great, so as I see it we need lists of helplines and organisations for different countries. Does anyone have time to research this? I know of UK Based ones, but unsure if they are global?
I can do my bit, but research time is in short supply, so would take a while. Or maybe we split up regions and share the load?
Sorry Derek, I should of checked before I asked. I'm in awe of how many extra umd benefits I'm only just learning about
Loving the team work xxx
I'll work on the US
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This is a general cursory search. If anyone has any specific things they want me to look into, please let me know.
National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) (by state) 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) www.nami.org
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#NAMI
- Breakdown by types of issues or disorders -
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#Hotline
- Non Profits and more breakdowns by grouping -
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#govtagency
Mental Health America (MHA) (by state) (800) 969-6642 www.mentalhealthamerica.net
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#mha
Finally, one about suicide awareness. This one can get dark, but it was one of the things that kept me from going through with it in 2017.
http://lostallhope.com/
Edit: Soakey made me think of something else. A lot of people in the US who know they have an issue avoid the doctor like the plague because of money. However, there seems to be a lot more variety of programs for mental health than physical health. State departments of Public Welfare, now called Human services may be able to help. Forewarning, the income limits are sometimes a joke.
Department of Human Services. There is no easy link to share here though. These are numerous (by county within the state) a simple google search will bring up ones local.
National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) (by state) 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) www.nami.org
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#NAMI
- Breakdown by types of issues or disorders -
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#Hotline
- Non Profits and more breakdowns by grouping -
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#govtagency
Mental Health America (MHA) (by state) (800) 969-6642 www.mentalhealthamerica.net
https://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referral-resources#mha
Finally, one about suicide awareness. This one can get dark, but it was one of the things that kept me from going through with it in 2017.
http://lostallhope.com/
Edit: Soakey made me think of something else. A lot of people in the US who know they have an issue avoid the doctor like the plague because of money. However, there seems to be a lot more variety of programs for mental health than physical health. State departments of Public Welfare, now called Human services may be able to help. Forewarning, the income limits are sometimes a joke.
Department of Human Services. There is no easy link to share here though. These are numerous (by county within the state) a simple google search will bring up ones local.
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PotatoMan, Thank you and a big squeeze from over the pond xxxx
Here's a link from the Dutch Department of Welfare, containing various links and phone numbers for problems with addictions or social anxiety:
https://www.dwangindezorg.nl/rechten/recht-op-ondersteuning/hulplijnen
Another Department of Welfare link with links to organisations that specialise in help with suicide prevention and depression:
https://www.trimbos.nl/trimbos-sites/depressie-angst-en-suicidepreventie
An organisation that helps with multiple psychological issues. It offers the ability to anonymously chat or call with a professional:
https://mindkorrelatie.nl/over-korrelatie/over-mind-korrelatie
Running out of time for now, will edit this post with more links when I'm able to(probably tonight).
https://www.dwangindezorg.nl/rechten/recht-op-ondersteuning/hulplijnen
Another Department of Welfare link with links to organisations that specialise in help with suicide prevention and depression:
https://www.trimbos.nl/trimbos-sites/depressie-angst-en-suicidepreventie
An organisation that helps with multiple psychological issues. It offers the ability to anonymously chat or call with a professional:
https://mindkorrelatie.nl/over-korrelatie/over-mind-korrelatie
Running out of time for now, will edit this post with more links when I'm able to(probably tonight).
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Thank you Soakey
Just noting some ideas before I forget them...
Book club
Uplifting or interesting podcasts
Favourite song library
What am I grateful for
The one good deed list
Healthy dinner club
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Just noting some ideas before I forget them...
Book club
Uplifting or interesting podcasts
Favourite song library
What am I grateful for
The one good deed list
Healthy dinner club
Xx
LisaMoomin said: Thank you Soakey
Just noting some ideas before I forget them...
Book club
Uplifting or interesting podcasts
Favourite song library
What am I grateful for
The one good deed list
Healthy dinner club
Xx
Just noting some ideas before I forget them...
Book club
Uplifting or interesting podcasts
Favourite song library
What am I grateful for
The one good deed list
Healthy dinner club
Xx
These are good ideas, I'll expand my searches!
That site could be a great asset to any models/performers here. That's a great find, I don't think I would have found something like that.
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I'll seek out some helplines and organisations when I have some time. One reddit forum, I forget which has a fantastic comprehensive list for pretty much every country you can think of so I'll see if I can find that and fill in any gaps
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didn't find the exact thing I was looking for but found some fantastic resources here
https://www.reddit.com/r/mentalillness/wiki/resources
and support lines here https://www.reddit.com/r/mentalillness/wiki/crisishelp
I could go through these at some point and present them in a umd friendly way
https://www.reddit.com/r/mentalillness/wiki/resources
and support lines here https://www.reddit.com/r/mentalillness/wiki/crisishelp
I could go through these at some point and present them in a umd friendly way
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Hey, I haven't forgotten about this either. I haven't found too many other resources worth noting. I'd like to find something that's more for someone that doesn't think they have an issue. A lot of people either A. Don't admit they have a problem, or B. Don't like doctors. So, I'd like something someone can use for a suffering person and they don't know it's a doctor or official mental help organization right away.
Anyone have any ideas?
Like, I've found things like this...
https://namivirginia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/127/2016/03/How-Do-You-Help-Someone-With-Mental-Illness-Who-Doesnt-Want-Help.pdf
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/crazy-life/201608/4-steps-help-someone-when-they-dont-want-it
but they aren't exactly helpful in most cases where the person won't acknowledge their issues.
Ultimately, you can lead a horse to water, yadda yadda, but I thought I'd see if anyone has had success with this.
Anyone have any ideas?
Like, I've found things like this...
https://namivirginia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/127/2016/03/How-Do-You-Help-Someone-With-Mental-Illness-Who-Doesnt-Want-Help.pdf
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/crazy-life/201608/4-steps-help-someone-when-they-dont-want-it
but they aren't exactly helpful in most cases where the person won't acknowledge their issues.
Ultimately, you can lead a horse to water, yadda yadda, but I thought I'd see if anyone has had success with this.
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
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