messg said: I stopped posting my image gens last week, given the volume I was creating, it felt I was cheapening the Forum. I'm not sure the forum is the place to dump a load of images, I started getting 100s of notifications and whilst the site is being reworked, I can imagine others are getting the same and the Wall being swamped. Hoepfully the site changes will make things a bit better all round
I can certainly see where you're coming from, but I do think there's a danger of becoming overly concerned about this. The Wall is only one source of content on UMD of course and I imagine many people look at the various forums and groups directly as their main sources. I actually didn't even know the Wall even existed until pretty recently when MM mentioned it in a reply to me and, even though I do now, I make little use of it.
In terms of potential issues with the volume of AI content, I would make the following points:
1) There's no sign of significant criticism of the volume of AI content from either members who aren't into AI images or real-life WAM producers who might feel their material is being suppressed by disappearing off the Wall too quickly. In fact I haven't seen any criticism from producers at all, but I'm willing to be proved wrong!
2) The mods are having to approve all posts of AI images so, if they have concerns about the quantity of them, they would have said something by now to ask people to rein it in.
3) The biggest supporter of my image generations is a real-life WAM producer, so they don't seem to have any concerns, certainly at present.
As has been said, AI image generation is an exciting new area to explore and, like others, I'm eager to share what I'm generating in the hope that others will appreciate it too. I spend time, effort and money (on SeaArt) to do that and, if I had to significantly reduce what I posted, my interest and enthusiasm for sharing my stuff might start to wither and die.
I know that MM is working hard to implement filters that will give everyone control over whether or not they see AI images, at which point hopefully everyone who generates AI images can relax with regard to their productivity, but I would urge everyone not to get too concened about the volume of content in the meantime If things look like they're getting too out of hand, I'm sure the mods will let us know.
messg said: I stopped posting my image gens last week, given the volume I was creating, it felt I was cheapening the Forum. I'm not sure the forum is the place to dump a load of images, I started getting 100s of notifications and whilst the site is being reworked, I can imagine others are getting the same and the Wall being swamped. Hoepfully the site changes will make things a bit better all round
I can certainly see where you're coming from, but I do think there's a danger of becoming overly concerned about this. The Wall is only one source of content on UMD of course and I imagine many people look at the various forums and groups directly as their main sources. I actually didn't even know the Wall even existed until pretty recently when MM mentioned it in a reply to me and, even though I do now, I make little use of it.
In terms of potential issues with the volume of AI content, I would make the following points:
1) There's no sign of significant criticism of the volume of AI content from either members who aren't into AI images or real-life WAM producers who might feel their material is being suppressed by disappearing off the Wall too quickly. In fact I haven't seen any criticism from producers at all, but I'm willing to be proved wrong!
2) The mods are having to approve all posts of AI images so, if they have concerns about the quantity of them, they would have said something by now to ask people to rein it in.
3) The biggest supporter of my image generations is a real-life WAM producer, so they don't seem to have any concerns, certainly at present.
As has been said, AI image generation is an exciting new area to explore and, like others, I'm eager to share what I'm generating in the hope that others will appreciate it too. I spend time, effort and money (on SeaArt) to do that and, if I had to significantly reduce what I posted, my interest and enthusiasm for sharing my stuff might start to wither and die.
I know that MM is working hard to implement filters that will give everyone control over whether or not they see AI images, at which point hopefully everyone who generates AI images can relax with regard to their productivity, but I would urge everyone not to get too concened about the volume of content in the meantime If things look like they're getting too out of hand, I'm sure the mods will let us know.
They are fairpoints but I still think self moderation of volume in a forum setting is the best course of action. I'm a big advocate of AI and fascinated by how the usage has evolved over the last year both with ChatGPT, LLMs, Stable Diffusion and now DALLE and other image generators. I've been able to create some outstanding images despite the hurdles Dalle puts in front of us with content filters The fact remains though, it's bloody easy to generate masses of images. Using the API and other scripts, you can kick off a prompt and come back in 10 mins after a shower to a folder of a 100 images. And so.. this why I've held back posting more.
What the heck. I decided to give Bing a try. Several words were blocked, such as cleavage, revealing, low-cut. I had better luck with "custard" than with "pie" too.
It's frustrating. Its more fun watching the masters at work in this forum!
Yeah, Bing is very restrictive with their filters. And they seem to constantly change things, I have some prompts that previously worked for me but now get instantly blocked with a content warning.
WF1 said: Yeah, Bing is very restrictive with their filters. And they seem to constantly change things, I have some prompts that previously worked for me but now get instantly blocked with a content warning.
I kid you not when I say that I'll put something in and get a great image so I'll just press generate again and I get the dog thing saying it detected something.
BarryMcCockiner2 said: I'll put something in and get a great image so I'll just press generate again and I get the dog thing saying it detected something.
The opposite is true, too. I get the dog thing, click Create again and I get a good result.
Hey, this stuff is addictive. After the 6 I posted above, I stayed up and made another dozen.
Sleazoid44 said: The opposite is true, too. I get the dog thing, click Create again and I get a good result.
Yep, that's what I also do. Sometimes it's this way, sometimes the other way round.
But since a couple of days it's also true that the prompts from the archived pictures in my collection are not working anymore. Not even getting to the dog but being instantly warned not to write such nasty things if I do not want to get my account suspended. I'm not quite sure yet which part of the prompt triggers the filters, though.
if you get the dog on bing its because of the image generated not the prompt its self so it is possible to try a second time with the same prompt and you wont blocked. if something is wrong with what is written in the prompt it will block right away and you wont get a picture of a dog
chryslerfire said: if you get the dog on bing its because of the image generated not the prompt its self so it is possible to try a second time with the same prompt and you wont blocked. if something is wrong with what is written in the prompt it will block right away and you wont get a picture of a dog
Good to know. I also discovered that the wait was only about a minute at 11 pm Eastern US time. At least last night.
During one of the loooong waits earlier, the placeholder picture was still in the center of the screen 10 minutes later -- but my requested picture was in my sidebar cue.
I've been playing with AI a lot too and I was wondering, would it be better for me to upload some of them here in the forum or on my personal profile?
I haven't had a ton of luck getting hair/faces messy, but I've had some luck with muddy dresses and wet hair. I've managed to make a lot of really realistic images, but I'm not sure the lack of facial coverage and messy hair will appeal to many people.
Kabe22 said: I've been playing with AI a lot too and I was wondering, would it be better for me to upload some of them here in the forum or on my personal profile?
I haven't had a ton of luck getting hair/faces messy, but I've had some luck with muddy dresses and wet hair. I've managed to make a lot of really realistic images, but I'm not sure the lack of facial coverage and messy hair will appeal to many people.
i guess its up to you do a bit of both maybe.i wonder if i should put any newer ones on my profile or here.i just made this group for anyone to post any kind of ai wam so dont worry if you think theyre not the best im sure they are great
not sure what ai you are using but i find with bing the more times you reference mud/muddy in the prompt the more it will add. to get better face cover i used "does muddy makeup" it works well.
These are some of my favorites that I've made. I've had the fantasy of running a Tough Mudder in a ballgown, dressed up like a princess, but... well... I've actually run two Mudders in leggings and a tank top, and I struggled to finish them. I got a really bad cramp in my calf in one and dislocated my shoulder in the other, so ACTUALLY attempting it in a huge skirt just seems like a really, really bad idea. But, hey, a girl can dream, right? lol And I know it's not impossible though, because I've seen pictures online of other women running them in old prom or wedding dresses.
I didn't realize how similar this set looked until I started uploading them, but I think they're different enough to share. And they all came out amazingly realistic aside from a few minor details, like the earring in the middle of the one woman's forehead. And someday the AI will be smart enough to make both the clothing and the person muddy, not just one or the other.
mFeelzGood said: Here are some images I made which are supposed to be slides and a waterpark filled with muds, slimes/gunge, and other substances. They don't really seem significant for a post. They don't really fit into one category. I didn't feel like making a new post for "waterpark images" or something, so I will just post them here.
Love your work! How did you get the thick mud in the hair? I've had varying degrees of success with it... Haven't quite got my prompts right
i was wondering what other substances to use and seems my ladylike garbage collection was doing well on deviant art so i made some more of those. after a few prompts it started to put more rubbish on the girls than in the truck so i thought id just see what that would look like in similar style to my other images.
the smell must be very bad i cant help but think its nice to see
i have more if anyone wants to see but ill leave these here for now see what people think.... maybe is too trashy