chryslerfire said: i dont understand sometimes either its alot of trial and error
Okay so that's exactly what I also do, was hoping there were some better ideas around
Too bad Bing AI is hardly working at the moment, at least for me. Most of the time all I get is the annoying "we're already working on that problem" message.
Bing can be good, but " other AI creators are available" I have started trying with alternative AInand some others offer no limit on images and produce quite quickly.
It's worth checking out alternatives to Bing if you are having problems.
Bing can be good, but " other AI creators are available"
Yep, I know. I used others before and only recently started creating with Bing but I really like its resulst. I'm also using Midjourney and graydient, both of wich are not free but there are some things Bing does better. So far none of the others can do more things to office clothes for example.
personally I use a wide variety of different prompts that I tinker with almost every generation, one bit of advice I can give is to follow some of the original advice posted on this thread: https://umd.net/groups/dall-e-3-generations
I pretty much followed what kortanklein and a few others said, and my own trial and error. My best advice I can give is to try and add enough detail to your prompt to add random guff to the image, I often have people or crowds in the backgrounds of my images, it seems that the censor is less trigger happy when theres more..stuff going on in the image.
Also, adding detail to your subject and to the mess is both a gift and a curse, sometimes adding more detail to the subject (black hair, makeup, ect) will actually result in a less messy image, so keep that in mind as well, theres a sweet spot in between a vague prompt and a detailed one that gets a great messy result.
Oh, one final thing, try to think outside the box, it can be as simple as "custard hitting forehead" instead of "custard hitting face". If something doesnt work, change the words around, add more detail, remove a few details, and dont be afraid to just add multiple instances of the same sentence, let me know how you do
After reading advises from you, like "forehead" or "chantilly cream" This is what i made on bing, i was generating at full speed, but suddently i've been blocked by that annoying dog.
Prompt used : photos of ladies sitting on the floor totally poured with hyper realistic dense cake batter, during a chaotic and dynamic pie fight their foreheads and hair are totally covered with batter, chantilly cream and pudding, throwing chantilly cream cakes and pies at each others. liquid creamy gooey batter dirty ruoned hair and forehead, eyes nose, body, feet and legs
lumba said: After reading advises from you, like "forehead" or "chantilly cream" This is what i made on bing, i was generating at full speed, but suddently i've been blocked by that annoying dog.
Prompt used : photos of ladies sitting on the floor totally poured with hyper realistic dense cake batter, during a chaotic and dynamic pie fight their foreheads and hair are totally covered with batter, chantilly cream and pudding, throwing chantilly cream cakes and pies at each others. liquid creamy gooey batter dirty ruoned hair and forehead, eyes nose, body, feet and legs
This isnt too far off a prompt I would use, it feels like they tweak the filter pretty often so sometimes it works, then it wont, then it works again, its very weird, and also why I think posting direct prompts sometimes isnt the best bet, due to how much the filter can vary. Annoyingly ive found that "cream" really sets it off sometimes as well, I normally avoid it and go for other substances. But thats just me.
Someone asked for more maids, absolutely, ive been pretty restrained on posting hundreds of images, but maybe I will if theres enough interest. I usually find that people are after something very specific with AI images, as seen in this thread, looks like a lot of very specific kinks but, maybe I'll make my own dumping thread if people care
lumba said: After reading advises from you, like "forehead" or "chantilly cream" This is what i made on bing, i was generating at full speed, but suddently i've been blocked by that annoying dog.
Prompt used : photos of ladies sitting on the floor totally poured with hyper realistic dense cake batter, during a chaotic and dynamic pie fight their foreheads and hair are totally covered with batter, chantilly cream and pudding, throwing chantilly cream cakes and pies at each others. liquid creamy gooey batter dirty ruoned hair and forehead, eyes nose, body, feet and legs
This isnt too far off a prompt I would use, it feels like they tweak the filter pretty often so sometimes it works, then it wont, then it works again, its very weird, and also why I think posting direct prompts sometimes isnt the best bet, due to how much the filter can vary. Annoyingly ive found that "cream" really sets it off sometimes as well, I normally avoid it and go for other substances. But thats just me.
Someone asked for more maids, absolutely, ive been pretty restrained on posting hundreds of images, but maybe I will if theres enough interest. I usually find that people are after something very specific with AI images, as seen in this thread, looks like a lot of very specific kinks but, maybe I'll make my own dumping thread if people care
Someone asked for more maids, absolutely, ive been pretty restrained on posting hundreds of images, but maybe I will if theres enough interest. I usually find that people are after something very specific with AI images, as seen in this thread, looks like a lot of very specific kinks but, maybe I'll make my own dumping thread if people care
i made this thread as a place for everyone to post whatever ai they can come up with but i do wonder if im posting to many images or filling up the picture feed it seems popular and there's alot of images on this thread now.
im not sure if its better to have a thread for each substance or outfit or whatever. maybe it is better to put it all in one place
chryslerfire said: i made this thread as a place for everyone to post whatever ai they can come up with but i do wonder if im posting to many images or filling up the picture feed it seems popular and there's alot of images on this thread now.
im not sure if its better to have a thread for each substance or outfit or whatever. maybe it is better to put it all in one place
I believe its fine, I was worried at first but now we can tag our content as "synthetic" which shouldnt clog up the actual feed? I might be wrong.
My main concern is like, pushing out actual creators out of the image archive and stuff, I would hate it if someone worked hard on an amazing scene, only for it to be pushed aside for AI stuff, but if the tag works how I think it does, I think were ok.
I might just post stuff here for now, i'll do a dump tomorrow of my best generations.
mFeelzGood said: This thread is crazy It is fun to see how many people posted, the randomness, how many views it got, and how many pages of replies it got.
This was an interesting idea. It got a lot of people interested and engaged.
I do like the idea of organizing now. It would be nice to start up a nice pattern. This would help people find what they are looking for rather than have to go through this thread page by page. People can follow threads for topics they are interested in. It is hard to think of the best pattern.
I'm inclined to agree with the above. As more and more people start producing and posting AI images, this thread will become untenable fairly quickly as those looking at the content may not be willing to scroll very far back. Consequently, image sets could quickly become "lost" and, ultimately, if people aren't viewing/liking them, there's little point in posting them.
It also seems to me that there's noticeably more interest in the pie/gunge images than there is in the muddy/wet ones, so people having their own threads for their style of content would mean that people wouldn't have to scroll through stuff they're less interested in to find things that they do want to see.
The only caveat I'd put on that is that people posting on threads they created themselves typically won't bump the thread back to the top (even the "Last Post" date won't change), so it won't be possible for others to know that a thread has been updated. Therefore, they'll need to either follow the thread or the person whose thread it is. That's fine, as long as people understand that they need to do that if they particularly like a thread.
I have suggested to MM that posts on threads which won't bump it back to the top with the current algorithm should be bumped if they contain at least X number of images (I suggested 10 to prevent people from spamming with single images).
For now, I think I'm going to generate my own thread for the themed content that I've been posting in this one. Ideally, I'd also move the other posts here on that theme across to the new thread to preserve the storyline (such that it is), but I don't think there's any way of doing that.
HideoKojima said:
chryslerfire said: i made this thread as a place for everyone to post whatever ai they can come up with but i do wonder if im posting to many images or filling up the picture feed it seems popular and there's alot of images on this thread now.
im not sure if its better to have a thread for each substance or outfit or whatever. maybe it is better to put it all in one place
I believe its fine, I was worried at first but now we can tag our content as "synthetic" which shouldnt clog up the actual feed? I might be wrong.
My main concern is like, pushing out actual creators out of the image archive and stuff, I would hate it if someone worked hard on an amazing scene, only for it to be pushed aside for AI stuff, but if the tag works how I think it does, I think were ok.
mFeelzGood said: I had a similar concern because the synthetic filter is disabled by default, so the majority of users are seeing this on the Wall. I was also concerned that a producers scene might get less views because it gets bumped down on the Wall.
I was thinking, it might be nice to have a "Enable post on Wall" flag when replying that is disabled by default. It can be disabled by default. When people want to show some interesting results, they can keep it disabled. If people want to show their best results that turned out really good and are proud of, they can enable the "Enable post on Wall" checkbox.
I think that MM is pretty far down the road of enabling people to choose to omit AI images and, once he's finished, people can be pointed at the "Block Synthetic Content" setting in the Content Filters section of Preferences. I would imagine this would include images on the Wall, so I'm not sure that another setting is needed? I'm proud of everything I share, otherwise I wouldn't waste my time posting it! On that basis, I wouldn't choose not to display my content on the Wall.
The only issue I can foresee is for people who like some AI images but not most of them, so they might be reluctant to block all AI content. I'm not sure what the solution to that is though....
SmushingTin said: I'm spending way too much time doing this, I think its a kind of addiction
Same - I've been generating explicitly 'fetish' images of things that only exist in my head, but these have crossed over into non-fetish things like fantastic landscapes and cities. Eg this afternoon putting women in various places evolved into wonderful gothic fantasy railway station-cum-castles.
A couple of attempts to get women in 'puffy wear' wet and muddy...
SmushingTin said: I'm spending way too much time doing this, I think its a kind of addiction
Same - I've been generating explicitly 'fetish' images of things that only exist in my head, but these have crossed over into non-fetish things like fantastic landscapes and cities. Eg this afternoon putting women in various places evolved into wonderful gothic fantasy railway station-cum-castles.
A couple of attempts to get women in 'puffy wear' wet and muddy...
These are absolutely amazing, well done, thank you.
I took some of the pie shots from the Bing Creations here and made a LoRA from them and added them to my current LoRAs and I reckon they have pretty much nailed it. Best pie shots I've made so far anyways, definitely more dynamic.
Wetmaxiskirts said: I think that MM is pretty far down the road of enabling people to choose to omit AI images and, once he's finished, people can be pointed at the "Block Synthetic Content" setting in the Content Filters section of Preferences. I would imagine this would include images on the Wall, so I'm not sure that another setting is needed? I'm proud of everything I share, otherwise I wouldn't waste my time posting it! On that basis, I wouldn't choose not to display my content on the Wall.
The only issue I can foresee is for people who like some AI images but not most of them, so they might be reluctant to block all AI content. I'm not sure what the solution to that is though....
I think the wall is an issue, I didn't even know it was a thing until I started posting in this forum. Personally I don't like that my pics go on there as I feel like it takes something away from the people who are making what we really all come here for. I mean from a quick glance the AI pics in the main stand out because of the quality of the image (even if they likely have 7 fingers or cross-eyed on closer inspection), they look like they are taken with really expensive cameras with perfect lighting etc...
Personally I want to be able to share my creations with you guys but I dont want to take anything away from the people who put the real effort in and I do feel like my images on the wall may do that.