I've got this thing for getting completely covered in mud in really nice clothes. An example is going to work really well dressed. Then, on the way home, stopping off and playing in the mud somewhere. When I've finished wallowing I'll head home, sort everything out, wash it, dry it, then go to work in it again the next day, like nothing's happened. I'm really not into this thing for trashing clothes. I love the risk and excitement of getting really, really filthy in unlikely outfits, then saving them and continuing like nothing's happened. I realise this might be weird. But the excitement of being at work all day, followed by seeing the same clothing thigh deep in mud, is fabulous to me!

That's what is exciting for me as well! There's something about the juxtaposition of formal or business clothing and mud that really gets me going. I've never been excited by the ruining of clothes, but what they represent.

I often get wet or messy in my business suit after work having worn it all day, although my suits only last 2-3 messings. Shirt? you can forget about wearing them again with food as it won't get clean even with non savoury mess. My tie, jumper, socks, underwear and shoes maybe salvageable depending on the mess but i'll wear them the next day.

Most modern, machine washable clothing will come clean after even the heaviest messing as will most shoes - shoes are amazingly resilient. But it does take some effort. Immediate rinsing and pre-soaking helps.

There's always the possibility that some clothing won't survive - like white cotton and silk against some stronger paint dyes, food stains like juice from red berries. Some types of oil will leave a permanent stain on any garment.

All in all in we've both lost clothing and saved it - but we've saved far more than lost. It's a challenge. It's always sad when you have to call time on an expensive garment only worn once.

The thing is a lot of peoples' fantasies (including mine) are about the messes 'ruining' clothing so I don't tend to want to spoil the mystique but going into specifics and leave it to the viewer.

Many like ripping and cutting because they want the absolute 'proof'. For me, it's the sense of risk and wreckless abandon.

Mrs Trouso and I got through 3 washing machines in 5 years while we were together so do bear in mind something's got to give

I agree when it comes to shoes otherwise you'll be scrubbing food/mud off to wear next time.

3 washing machines in 5 years is impressive, you guys should buy shares in Hotpoint

Yes it does seem a shame to get messy in order to trash and destroy clothing, it is good to be able to use them time after time, if clothes can't be reused after getting messy it is just one of those things, wear and tea. I can see how it is exciting to deliberately and secretly mudding etc clothes that you spent that bit more money on and then wearing them all cleaned up and nobody else knows but you......I'm assuming footwear and outerwear is included sometimes? One of my wet/muddy/messy fantasies is very rich beautiful females dressed in really expensive casual or smart wear really not caring about the expense as they casually and routinely mess up the outfits (e.g. such as designer jeans, designer boots, expensive gloves, expensive top, and expensive coat such as even a fur coat......)....even if only worn once, they could easily afford new clothes/footwear/accessories........

Yes it is surprising how resilient clothing is if it is washed well and properly and any lingering smells are dealt with. Interesting that shoes and boots are very resilient as well, not just rubber rain boots but leather boots and shoes as well.......

We've found that for the most part clothes will wash clean from almost anything, but shoes have a much shorter lifespan once you start messing and washing them. But then we put messy shoes through the washing machine with the outfits, possibly less brutal methods might give longer life but when the charity shops are full of stylish boots and shoes at knock down prices there's not much point worying about it, we can always buy more.

The things we have spent money on, like our Hunter collection, seem to wash out fine time after time.

Interesting re washing machines, I installed a Servis 8kg machine in the dungeon when we first started and it's still going strong. The front is quite badly rusted below the door but that's just cosmetic, it works like new.

We have found that white cotton things tend not to survive mud, or custard. They'll wash clean-ish but never come fully clean white again. Fortunately the white stripes on tracksuits and the like seem to be a different material that does wash clean (presumably polyester), so for white t-shirts we buy cheap school uniform ones in bulk and deep six them after the shoots.

We've also found the "dry clean only" labels on wedding dresses are a lie - we've drenched wedding dresses in baked beans, hosed them down, into the wash at 40 degrees, and they come out like new, you'd never know they'd been worn much less bathed in mess. However what did get trashed by washing were some long and quite posh "Country Casuals" pleated skirts, much to our surprise, I think they were a wool mix, and they went horrendously wrinkly and mishapen after washing. Cheap polycotton uniform ones on the other hand will take gunging after gunging, eve mud bathing, and come up perfectly every time afterwards.

For me the pleasure is in deliberately getting messy while clothed, but with no desire to trash the outfit, just wash it clean agains afterwards to wear again. I've always had favourite outfits I like to get messy in, as a kid it was tracksuits and now it tends to be a really nice pair of overalls, but because they are favorites I want to enjoy getting messy in them multiple times, and wearing them clean inbetween. There is something quite fun about going about day to day business dressed in what is actually a WAM outfit, but no-one looking can tell. It can be fun to explore the county while dressed to be messed, with a couple of changes of similar outfits in the van, and then when you do find a nice pool of mud somewhere or a secluded cove on the coast, you can just go straight in and play, no having to go back somewhere to change first.

Last Autumn, when it was too cold and rainy to be playing in the mudbanks and river, but still pleasant enough to walk about outside, Lady Jasmine and I dressed in boilersuits and wellies, put plastic seat covers in the van, and went out exploring, making a point of stopping and kneeling, sitting, and crawling about, in ploughed fields. This got our clothes nicely dirty but not wet, so while streaked and smeared with mud we weren't cold, and we spent the rest of the day in our muddy overalls driving around and exploring, getting out to look at stuff and take short walks, enjoying how we both looked all muddy. We only headed back to the Hall when it got dark. Then the next day we put the clean outfits we'd not got round to changing into on, and had a fully clothed bath together in a six foot paddling pool full of warm water in the dungeon, while the muddy clothes were in the wash. There's a lot to be said for types of WAM that don't involve being cold when you live in the rainswept North and mud season is over for the year.

I think that what matters is whether or not glue was used to hold layers of clothing together. The wedding dress 'dry-clean only' is not so much a lie as protection against neophyte launderers...

Is the process of cleaning the mud off erotic?

No, it's more the being clean and dry again, in the same outfit, and thinking back to what happened to it last time it was worn.

This! Absolutely this!

I must admit, I LOVE to buy expensive Levi's Skateboarding Jeans and trash them with mud, gunge, foam and then wash them and do it all over again!

To be happy and explore