Wetmaxiskirts said: The level of censorship being applied to what are pretty tame wetlook images that I generate is unacceptable and, other than returning to the tolerant but much lower quality Stable Diffusion images on SeaArt, I don't really see a way forward whilst the current situation persists.
I'm curious... Can you share a prompt or two that gets you banned? I've made images with Bing that are much less tame than what you're posting, so maybe it's more that you're just using trigger words rather than the actual content. I've gotten the dog a bunch of times, but never a ban.
Looking into what is triggering your bans might help you out a lot, because what you're posting is hardly blatantly sexual content. Unless you are doing more sexual content that you're not posting, your images shouldn't be regularly triggering bans.
stuck on this borderline prompt, where any other word (generic and non-NSFW) I add or remove gets blocked directly (not the dog, but the scary red symbol) already lost 2 accounts..
Here is the prompt (pretty sexy)
movie scene aftermath of the messiest chaotic and massive pie fight in a bakery with messy woman in bikini and the groom in undies with a squared frosting sheet cake in their hands. Whit frosting everywhere on their forehead and shoulders, they are almost unrecognizable due to the mess, sloppy head to toe covered with soppy mixture and cake batter joyfully rolling among slippery sloppiness, among a pile of sloppy mixture, a lot of women
movie scene aftermath of the messiest chaotic and massive pie fight in a bakery with messy woman in bikini and the groom in undies with a squared frosting sheet cake in their hands. Whit frosting everywhere on their forehead and shoulders, they are almost unrecognizable due to the mess, sloppy head to toe covered with soppy mixture and cake batter joyfully rolling among slippery sloppiness, among a pile of sloppy mixture, a lot of women
I tried the first part of your prompt, "movie scene aftermath of the messiest chaotic and massive pie fight in a bakery with messy woman in bikini" and kept getting the dog. Then I added "surrounded by female friends who are also messy" and that worked. (Forgot "female" the first time and got all men.)
I think the key sometimes is to hide objectionable words in the middle.
Wetmaxiskirts said: The level of censorship being applied to what are pretty tame wetlook images that I generate is unacceptable and, other than returning to the tolerant but much lower quality Stable Diffusion images on SeaArt, I don't really see a way forward whilst the current situation persists.
I'm curious... Can you share a prompt or two that gets you banned? I've made images with Bing that are much less tame than what you're posting, so maybe it's more that you're just using trigger words rather than the actual content. I've gotten the dog a bunch of times, but never a ban.
Looking into what is triggering your bans might help you out a lot, because what you're posting is hardly blatantly sexual content. Unless you are doing more sexual content that you're not posting, your images shouldn't be regularly triggering bans.
Thanks for being willing to take a look. There's nothing skimpy or suggestive in my prompts which is why I get so frustrated. I've given up trying to use Bing, but the following prompt is an example of what's consistently blocked on Microsoft Designer Image Creator. Users are encouraged to be wordy, so I am!
"full length realistic photo of a beautiful happy woman in a garden on a sunny day standing directly under an outdoor shower to wash her hair, waterlogged long copper bedraggled drenched hair, wet skin with water droplets, wearing 1970s-style clothing comprising a long-sleeved collared dark navy floral saturated soaking wet shirt and a flared turquoise saturated wringing wet skirt of maxi length, the excessively drenched appearance of the glistening clothes should be vividly highlighted by obvious wetness effects such as streaming water rivulets and water droplets, showcase water rivulets copiously streaming from the clothes and the woman's hair, wearing small dangly earrings and a small pendant, natural attractive face, realistic beautiful eyes, front view, long shot, full body shot, Sigma 28 mm f/8"
It doesn't like "maxi skirt" much, hence the "of maxi length" and I've found the "1970s-style" prefix generates less blocks than just letting it be purely modern.
Wetmaxiskirts said: Thanks for being willing to take a look. There's nothing skimpy or suggestive in my prompts which is why I get so frustrated. I've given up trying to use Bing, but the following prompt is an example of what's consistently blocked on Microsoft Designer Image Creator. Users are encouraged to be wordy, so I am!
"full length realistic photo of a beautiful happy woman in a garden on a sunny day standing directly under an outdoor shower to wash her hair, waterlogged long copper bedraggled drenched hair, wet skin with water droplets, wearing 1970s-style clothing comprising a long-sleeved collared dark navy floral saturated soaking wet shirt and a flared turquoise saturated wringing wet skirt of maxi length, the excessively drenched appearance of the glistening clothes should be vividly highlighted by obvious wetness effects such as streaming water rivulets and water droplets, showcase water rivulets copiously streaming from the clothes and the woman's hair, wearing small dangly earrings and a small pendant, natural attractive face, realistic beautiful eyes, front view, long shot, full body shot, Sigma 28 mm f/8"
It doesn't like "maxi skirt" much, hence the "of maxi length" and I've found the "1970s-style" prefix generates less blocks than just letting it be purely modern.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
I'm not sure if any of this will help, but these are things to try:
"beautiful" is generally redundant, as the majority of model photography that the generator was trained on are, well, models. A lot of times when I include "beautiful" in my prompts, I get rather ...voluptuous results. lol I think the AI associates "beautiful" with big boobs, and that could be triggering the sensors.
You may be overdoing it on the wet terms and synonyms. Some of those words ("wetness," and "wet skin" in particular) are used far more commonly in erotica and porn than in normal speech, and that may be triggering the sensors.
I often don't even use any form of wet/drenched/soaked descriptors, and instead rely on environmental effects to indirectly create the wet clothes and wet hair, (but the obviously drenched look has never really been that important to me either, so some descriptors are probably needed for that). "In heavy rain," "splashed by xxxx," or "after swimming" can often do the same thing as all of those references to wetness. Also, moptopumd gave some great advice for getting wet hair without actually saying "wet hair":
moptopumd said:
gazdadude said: Can I ask how you do wet pictures
Sure thing. As an example:
close-up photo of a millennial female. coated in water. in a pool of water. in-ground pool. neck deep in water. splashing. water is dripping off the head and clothes. grey t-shirt, jeans, glasses, beautiful long blond hair smoothed sleek and flat, wet hair, wet clothes, summer day
So, first off, there is a bit of science to this, and a bit more luck. I was getting some amazing images with pretty much this exact same prompt two days ago. Yesterday it wasn't working so much. But Bing is like that from time to time.
Anyway, once you establish your model and background setting, you need to add a source of ongoing wetting. If you put the model in a pool of water, they will only be wet below the surface of the water. You need rain or something else to actively wet the upper half of your model. "Splashing" works to that effect. Sometimes it will act like somebody dumped a bucket of water on their head, other times it will just give a little ripple in the water and still soak the upper half of the model. You can also use rain to the same effect. The "coated in water" just kind of makes the splashing effect work. I have never gotten a model completely soaked without that prompt, but it also doesn't work alone. Like you have to have a good battery AND gas in your tank for your car to run. The prompts "wet hair" and "wet clothes" are not always needed, but give better results more frequently if they are there. The "hair smoothed sleek and flat" bit helps a lot too. Styled hair doesn't want to give the fresh out of the water look anywhere near as often. The "wet hair" prompt just makes hair slightly damp usually. The combined source of water, the dampness, and the hair being straight all combined give me the most soaking wet hair results. "Wet clothes" is another one that is kinda meh. I never notice it doing anything without the other prompts, but I believe it returns more good results than just the other prompts alone. Then you just figure out your posing and stuff. These are the tools in my belt that I use to get my results. That's the science. I would say it's still 50% or more luck just hoping Bing plays along with you at that time.
And a side question: Your Bing pictures pretty much all have a grainy look to them, with a strange effect on the eyes. Is that intentional? If not, I think that's caused by using "photo" as your image type keyword. I've found that "photographic image" gives clearer images and I have a lot less issues with the eyes.
Finally, I used both my advice and moptopumd's advice to rewrite your prompt to test it all out and got these as results. I didn't make too many attempts because I already use up all my boosts for today on making images for my latest D&D character idea: an orc warrior princess/barbarian wielding a greataxe while wearing a tattered, bloodstained ballgown. As much as I'd love to share some of those pictures, they're probably against the forum rules
This is the prompt I used in Bing Image Creator. The clothing isn't super shiny with rivulets of water, but I also didn't play around with the prompt too much. I just wanted to show it works and give you some idea of what it looks like. I used the prompt 3 times and got 4 images each time, so none were blocked at all. The hair looks realistically wet in all but one of the 12 images, and a few of the images were a little iffy on whether or not the clothes were actually wet. But still, 7 pretty decent wetlook images out of 12 is great odds. This was a quick attempt at a prompt, so with some playing around with it, you could get the full-body shot (putting shoes in the prompt sometimes works for that) with more obvious wetness. I know the patterns or details on the clothing often overrule the wet look, so leaving the floral part out might work better.
"full-length photographic image of a happy woman in a garden on a sunny day washing her hair under an outdoor shower wearing drop earrings and small pendant and 1970's-style wet long-sleeved collared dark navy floral blouse and wet flared turquoise silk floor-length skirt, coated in water, splashing, hair smoothed sleek and flat, full-body shot"
I hope some of this helps!
Edited to add: I just looked at some of your more recent image posts. It looks like you fixed the grainy/strange eye-effect issue already
Funny enough, using the words and phrases from your prompt in my response to you triggered UMD's warning about posting about peeing, so Bing is also probably making that connection as well.
close-up photo of a millennial female. coated in water. in a pool of water. in-ground pool. neck deep in water. splashing. water is dripping off the head and clothes. grey t-shirt, jeans, glasses, beautiful long blond hair smoothed sleek and flat, wet hair, wet clothes, summer day
So, first off, there is a bit of science to this, and a bit more luck. I was getting some amazing images with pretty much this exact same prompt two days ago. Yesterday it wasn't working so much. But Bing is like that from time to time.
Anyway, once you establish your model and background setting, you need to add a source of ongoing wetting. If you put the model in a pool of water, they will only be wet below the surface of the water. You need rain or something else to actively wet the upper half of your model. "Splashing" works to that effect. Sometimes it will act like somebody dumped a bucket of water on their head, other times it will just give a little ripple in the water and still soak the upper half of the model. You can also use rain to the same effect. The "coated in water" just kind of makes the splashing effect work. I have never gotten a model completely soaked without that prompt, but it also doesn't work alone. Like you have to have a good battery AND gas in your tank for your car to run. The prompts "wet hair" and "wet clothes" are not always needed, but give better results more frequently if they are there. The "hair moothed sleek and flat" bit helps a lot too. Styled hair doesn't want to give the fresh out of the water look anywhere near as often. The "wet hair" prompt just makes hair slightly damp usually. The combined source of water, the dampness, and the hair being straight all combined give me the most soaking wet hair results. "Wet clothes" is another one that is kinda meh. I never notice it doing anything without the other prompts, but I believe it returns more good results than just the other prompts alone. Then you just figure out your posing and stuff. These are the tools in my belt that I use to get my results. That's the science. I would say it's still 50% or more luck just hoping Bing plays along with you at that time.
All of these images have used the prompt I shared in this post. I just changed the outfits, posing, and background.
I can't seem to get pass the dog with your prompt what's your trick lol.
I can't seem to get pass the dog with your prompt what's your trick lol.
So... the trick is using Bing on a day when it wants to play nice with you. Sadly, that's pretty much it. Some of the people in here seem to be able to churn out dozens of really good images a day with no issues. When I get good images, I get them all day long. But then I hit days where I get the dog or the prompts content filter every time I his create, and I'm using the same prompt. I've had a dry spell for a few days now. I don't have a clue what other people are doing to be able to produce like they do. When it works, it's thrilling. More often than not, it's nails grinding on a chalkboard....
i posted some pics of Cinderella and got accused of being a pedo buy the umd admins thanks guys a simple google google search could tell you she is 19 in the movie thats one of the reasons i did Cinderella but i guess the admins are just looking for kids wherever they can find them dirty nonce bastards. not nice is it?. anyway sorry to rant but im done posting on this site. peace
I use a variety of platforms and the ways to form prompts differ. Here is one general rule I found helpful:
Think photos not videos. I was used to writing scripts for videos and I would start prompts "Secretaries in miniskirts start a pie fight, then..." with more detail of what I wanted to see. In the resulting images they were all sitting around ready to start a pie fight, pies on the table or in their hands.
A keyword I like is "aftermath" with the goal of showing the results that I am looking for.
Sample prompt on Bing: "aftermath of a messy piefight with female secretaries at the office, white pie mess coats everyone"
Pictures (I hope) follow. I did not see a checkbox for "synthetic" and that is what these are.
Just had a really strange one happen. I'm running a prompt that is giving me pretty good results, making small changes here and there. Well, I got a set of 4 images back, I go into one of them to save it, then go back to open another. It opens an image that isn't even in the set of 4. So I open the next, same image that isn't in the set of 4. The last image does the same thing. I refresh the page, and my last 4 images are replace with 3 completely different images. WTH?!
moptopumd said: Just had a really strange one happen. I'm running a prompt that is giving me pretty good results, making small changes here and there. Well, I got a set of 4 images back, I go into one of them to save it, then go back to open another. It opens an image that isn't even in the set of 4. So I open the next, same image that isn't in the set of 4. The last image does the same thing. I refresh the page, and my last 4 images are replace with 3 completely different images. WTH?!
I posted a strange thing that Bing did with me the other day, so I'll re-post the image here.
I have 2 accounts going at the same time. One had survivor-based girls getting muddy, and the other had an indoor major pie fight.
Bing then gives me an image of the pie fight scene, but with staff from the survivor series in the image too. The pie fight woman actually looks pissed that Survivor took over her image. I have to repeat, both prompts were on different accounts, different browsers, but running on the same computer at the same time. The prompt for the image here had NOTHING about survivor in it. It's as if Survivor took over the bakery!
lumba said: stuck on this borderline prompt, where any other word (generic and non-NSFW) I add or remove gets blocked directly (not the dog, but the scary red symbol) already lost 2 accounts..
Thanks for the prompt - I used it as the basis for these.
After all of the unspeakable things I'd done to countless virtual Bing models, I should have known they'd be out to settle the score. It didn't take them long to find my virtual self, and dispense some appropriate justice. I was formulating an escape attempt, until I realized exactly just how much damn fun I was having! Yes, I probably deserved this, but no-where near as much as I enjoyed it!
Those naughty folks at "You're gunked!" have taken to tying the girls who fail their games to their chairs, to stop them wriggling out of the way of the goop. Hardly seems fair, does it?
I like to try different settings and different types of women. I also like to keep my prompts short. Here are some recent ones (all images are synthetic):
playful pie in your face pie fight with two actresses on the sofa at a TV talk show using only white cream pies
playful pie in your face pie fight with two actresses have just been pied on the sofa at a TV talk show
aftermath of a playful pie in your face pie fight with actresses on the sofa at a TV talk show
aftermath of a playful pie in your face pie fight with actresses on the sofa at a TV talk show, white pie mess coats everyone (first image below)
Attached are the results using Bing Image Creator.
gotcha13 said: playful pie in your face pie fight with two actresses on the sofa at a TV talk show using only white cream pies
And not all that far-fetched! as shown by these screen grabs from a real-person youTube video "Andrea gets a pie in the face and Stacey reveals some sexy"
ninadunklin said: Hey, some awesome creations on here already, so hopefully this is adding to the conversation?
I think I've managed a good shot at gunged hair
Along the theme of a couple or friends on a gameshow with bit of gunge shampooing thrown in for the loser(s)
Those are lovely! Would you mind if I ask what prompt you use for the hair coverage? I have gotten some amazing and consistant results with a prompt or series of prompts, and then the next day that prompts will give me mediocre results or give me a prompt warning. A couple of days ago I got some absolutely awesome images with hair coverage, and then yesterday I burned through my daily limit on two accounts and the best I could get looked like a splat of green bird poo lol.
fortuitousoddity said: Those naughty folks at "You're gunked!" have taken to tying the girls who fail their games to their chairs, to stop them wriggling out of the way of the goop. Hardly seems fair, does it?
These are amazing, don't think I have seen anyone tricking it into doing bondage wam yet! Great outfits as well