There are two new pie videos by someone named Taylor Knight that are straight out of the Lenny playbook. Same pies, same scenarios. They're definitely worth checking out:
Another model ploughing a very similar field is Mistress Whitney Morgan. She's done at least 3 different pie videos. (You may have to go to page 2 of the search results at the folllowing link to see the third one.)
pieromaniac_too said: ... I'm not trying to disrespect the dead here, and Lenny did great work as one of the founding fathers of WAM production, but the fact that he stiffed a number of models is another well-established side of his story.
Uhhhhhm, then why bring it up at all? To what end?
Potatoman-J said: I'm still trying to figure out how we got from "scene being something like Lenny would do" to "I hope these models got paid" to "long anecdote about how Lenny maybe didn't pay some models with a bunch of hearsay as evidence".
True or not, I don't see where this suddenly came from or how this quickly devolved into that. So we wanna call anyone/everyone else out while we're at it?
If we're airing dirty laundry, I have a confession. I like to watch videos of sexy women getting pied and messy. It's kind of a sexual fetish of mine...
n1rul1m said: If we're airing dirty laundry, I have a confession. I like to watch videos of sexy women getting pied and messy. It's kind of a sexual fetish of mine...
Ok, Messmaster. Let's do something about this guy & kick him off the UMD. He's definitely not our type.
The proper attitude Lenny should have taken is: science costs money: i.e. experimentation costs money. Getting it right costs money.
On the other hand, you DON'T want to pay for a custom and then have the producer just blatantly disregard your instructions and put a dab of shaving cream on a model's nose. This is why I have never ordered a custom: TOO risky for too much drama for BOTH of us: how can I (customer) get them to trust me (to pay them) and how can they (producer) get me to trust them (to do what I imagined) when we can't read each others' minds?
Preacher said: There are two new pie videos by someone named Taylor Knight that are straight out of the Lenny playbook. Same pies, same scenarios. They're definitely worth checking out:
pieromaniac_too said: Another model ploughing a very similar field is Mistress Whitney Morgan. She's done at least 3 different pie videos. (You may have to go to page 2 of the search results at the folllowing link to see the third one.)
Don't know what all transpired with the negative stuff mentioned - but I knew Lenny. He had a heart of gold and was often generous To A FAULT. I wonder if maybe someone tried to take advantage of him and it didn't go their way...hmmmm
Anyway, it's so nice to see that his spirit lives on, influencing others - may he RIP. He would have gotten a cheap thrill (his favorite kind, he told me) from this.
I hope he's up in heaven (or hell if it's funner, haha) and enjoying the horses and pie-ing all the pretty women. Hopefully lots of steaks and whisky and "whores" wherever he is! Perhaps he's persuaded a few of the ladies to put on their girdles and smoke a cigarette while he throws pies at them! LMFAO!
Didn't always agree with him and he drove me crazy sometimes (for example, when he insisted that I be Marilyn Monroe blonde for a shoot - he fully expected me to not wear a wig; I was to bleach my hair platinum blonde - we argued for days about it - I "won" but really I lost...cause he was so firmly committed to it that he said forget it so I did not get to enjoy that opportunity...) but I sure do miss him and our little conversations.
Preacher said: There are two new pie videos by someone named Taylor Knight that are straight out of the Lenny playbook. Same pies, same scenarios. They're definitely worth checking out:
ariel and i had the pleasure of doing lennys last custom.....and it was a straight up CUSTOM. he didnt ask for money for it, he paid me plenty, and it turned out awesome. its in my store. I hold it super dear to me now, because it was his idea behind it and asked ariel and myself to add our flair. but his messes strategically picked out and costumes and all that.
I did some work for lenny. one he loved, one he didnt like the second camera angle. we got in a tiff about it but all in all, it was fine. we made up....we talked normal again. it was what it was. no bigs.
any producer working with other ones may have problems. it happens. I am happy that, that whole situation was long over before he passed and we were cool....we did his last custom and he fucking loved it so much. we had a blast, it was a perfect mix of lenny and house of mess shenanigans and we all loved it. I am really glad we all got to enjoy creating that together
lenny is a legend around here and I think speaking ill of him is super disrespectful....as people would say "that escalated quickly" it did. for no real good reason at all. rip lenny. thanks for bringing your style and some great models for us to see!
Love you, too
Bee
