Hi just asking here so if any moderators or other users know you can answer this.

When going to the top banner there is a menu item "Forums" that has a list of stuff. Menu items are "Groups, Wetlook, Messy... etc". It would make a ton of sense to just put "AI Wam" in there as a menu item. Instead it involves a lot of exploring around in the groups.

Anyway thanks for your attention to this matter lol.

I just click on Groups in the Forums dropdown list. AI WAM is always the first in the list for me on the Groups page, so it's easy to find. It's an extra step, but I'm not sure if the AI WAM group is popular enough among UMD users as a whole to make it worth adding to the main dropdown list.

I agree it is not too hard to find if you already know where to look. I'm petitioning it to go on the main forum menu. It is probably not very popular cos it is something new.

It's not very popular because 95% of AI looks terrible. read the room, there have been numerous posts in the main forums recently.
I'm a big supporter of the technology but even I'm not naive to think it's at all good enough.

I totally agree with this. I just don't understand the point of posting AI images to the main forum. They look terrible and they tend to be specifically tailored to the preferences of the creator. To top it off, those posts get virtually no engagement. So why bother?

From the 100 posts on the front page of this group..

37 have 0 replies
13 have 1 reply
13 have 2 replies
9 have 3 replies
5 have 4 replies
3 have 5 replies

This isn't counting people replying to themselves and no other interaction.

Personally, I don't even think this group works for the content. People create a post with 3 pictures, get no replies and then create a new post with another 3 pictures to bump to the top.

As one who spams this group from time to time, I also agree about the quality of a lot of AI, even a lot of my own. Compared to real-life WAM, most of the stuff shared here looks ridiculously fake, with painfully obvious giveaways.

But to your point about the images being specifically tailored to the creator's preference... isn't that the point? This isn't a commercial group. While I don't know the actual sales numbers of the few who do sell their AI stuff, I can't imagine many people actually buy it. We all just make what we like to see.

My personal preferences are immediately recognizable in my stuff, and in all reality, are not what the majority of the people here actually want to see. Very few of my images have ever gotten more than five likes. I imagine that even if I posted photos of myself in real-life wearing the outfits I use in my AI stuff and doing the "artsy" WAM I do rather than the full-coverage everyone wants to see, I'd get about the same engagement. My interests just aren't popular here, as can be seen with a quick search of the real WAM forums and shops. Virtually no real content creator caters to the things I like.

I share my AI stuff because there are a few people who really do like it, and some of them even encourage me to share more. That small handful of people make it worthwhile for me to keep sharing.

Side note: If by "main forum," you weren't referring to the AI WAM group, but the forums as a whole, I totally agree. AI stuff should be kept separate from actual content creators trying to sell their videos and photo sets. It really bugs me when people don't label their AI as such, and when people who actively post in this group go into the other forums and post their AI stuff there also, hoping for better engagement.

Sharing AI should be limited to just this group and our personal profile albums. We've been given this little corner of the forums specifically because most UMD users don't want to see AI in general and especially not when they're... well... "typing with one hand."