Of late there have been a few cases, most notably the "toilet trouble" thread, where many people have had a strong negative reaction to content that while not to everyone's taste, was still within what is allowed here.

There have also been calls over the years for a way to filter "gross" content, none of which have gone anywhere because a) they'd need everyone to agree what is gross and what isn't, and b) they'd depend on producers labelling their content properly, and given how often male producers completely fail to add themselves as models when appearing in a scene (resulting in incorrect gender tagging and multiple complaints) it's unlikely a manual gross tag would be any more effective.

So, how about a fully automated approach?

My idea is:

1. Users can set a "gross/no gross" filter on their account the same way they can for synthetic content.
2. Any user can flag any content as "gross" if they think of it that way.
3. Once a user has flagged something as gross, it is permanently excluded from their view. Decide something is gross, flag it as such, never see it again.
4. Just one user flagging something as gross has no effect on anyone else. BUT, there's a threshold value, say 5. If 5 people or more flag something as gross, it is then excluded from the views of everyone who has the gross filter set on their account.

So, the result of this in practice would be:

One person doesn't like something, they can immediately remove it from their view.
If there's a consensus in the community that multiple people think something's gross, it's removed from the view of everyone using the filter. And all without anyone having to agree what the definition of "gross" is, just an overall community consensus that something is over the line.

Possibly filtered threads could be shown in small text between the normal ones, a bit like how buried posts are shown, so people can always check what's being filtered, but know it has been filtered?

At admin level MM would need something to indicate how often something had been tagged, and spot if say someone's tagging everything by a competitor in order to reduce reach.

Thanks for this suggestion, but that's a ton of additional complexity (and slowness / bugs) just so some people can avoid seeing a producer's content. Unlike synthetic stuff, grossness is subjective. So if we try to automate an ever-changing site-wide filter that will restrict what people see based on factors they don't have control over, it'll will blow up in our faces, plus add the potential for actual fraud which would have to actively be monitored as mentioned.

I think it's simpler to just block the producers whose stuff you don't like. That way you're not affecting anybody else, and you can have a personalized experience just by muting all the producers you don't want to see anymore

Thanks for the ideas!

I was thinking of such a filter. Exclusion filters for content that I don't want to see. It seems very complicated. I wanted a "disturbing content filter", but that is subjective. The pit bucket scenes would fall into that category. Maybe an "extreme bondage filter" too for scenes that feature painful or distressful rope setups. And I would agree a "gross content filter" but for dog food. I would even want a "no beans filter" . Maybe someone with Coulrophobia would want a "no clowns filter". Maybe even a "no savory filter". Maybe one person wants a "no pies and sploshing filter" and another wants a "no mud filter" and another wants a "no gunge or slime filter". These are all subjective though, and no classification or tagging system would work.

Instead, I just mute the producer. I have muted a few producers. I don't see their posts and replies now. At this point, I guess everyone just needs to get used to ignoring scenes that they don't want to see. The problem is, I still see the scenes and I don't see forum plug posts from the producer for scenes that I may consider buying.

I did experiment with ublock filters to hide forum posts of specific words:


This would hide savory posts. You could hide any post with any term in it by copying this rule and modifying the word in the parenthesis. This is probably not useful for 99% of people, but it works for me. This way, I don't need to mute producers, but I can still hide some forum posts that I would rather not see.

Muting seems like a good option.

On desktop, I would typically use the red x from hovering over a persons name in the Started By column. I find it easy to mute and unmute. Maybe others are not finding this.

The problem with mute is that there are producers like MessyGirl that sometimes use a toilet prop. People may want to see all other of MessyGirl's content, but just not the scenes that use a toilet prop.

Sometimes I mute producers for a month and unmute them once the content is likely off on page 2. There is some content that I don't want to see, and it just keeps getting bumped to the top. Temporary mutes are a good option. I also find it helps to keep a note with a list of people and why I muted them.

Maybe people are not aware that they can mute and unmute. I was hesitant to try mute for the first time. Muting works well.

I've made my views clear in another thread, and I don't want to get repetitive, so I hope you don't mind me commenting here.

There are a few issues I have with muting.

One is that I just want to block certain scenes, and not necessarily all posts by a particular account.

I tried muting an account that is well known for dog food videos and outsourcing the entire production to the model to shoot on their phone. Muting them didn't hide their videos in the store.

One is that certain scenes are so repulsive to me that I don't want to have to view them even once. If we have a system where if 5 users have already flagged something for being repulsive, I'd like it so it's already hidden for me. You're right that people can't agree on what 'gross' means, but the two things that always come up in these discussions are meat products and scatological themed videos. Maybe have these as tags that if selected by the producer are auto hidden.

I appreciate your utilitarian philosophy when it comes to moderating this site, I feel with the types of videos we are talking about here, there could be greater consideration to the harm they do users who don't want to see them. I strongly feel viewing this content should be opt-in rather than opt-out.