Looks like I'm one of the 168. HArd to wrap my head around, but I have been here from pretty much the beginning. I've joined many different boards or forums over the years. Not only in WAM but also other topics. Some closed, in some I lost interest myself. The UMD has always been a constant part of my online life. It will continue to be that. It's still a part of my daily routine to check in to have a quick look around. Allthough there's far too much happening here to keep tracks of all of it. Every once in a while I stumble upon new members who contribute fantastic material, be it as producers or discoverers of hidden treasures. Many I might still not have seen yet.

I still remember ordering VHS tapes from Rob Blaine or Mark from Wamtec.. Stuffing dollar bills I changed in my local bank into envelopes and then waiting anxiously for weeks for the tapes to arrive. I still have this curiosity and desire to see a WAM scene for the first time.

And I also can't believe it has been almost 10 years, since I started to produce myself. Though my life has changed a lot and I don't find as much time for this as I did in the past, I still feel like I will not grow out of WAM

I havent been here as long as some but I've been here pretty consistently. 11.5 years now with an account, but i lurked some time before creating an account. I think I created an account just to buy something. IIRC I followed someone here from WAMMonkey after it died to the point it was one guy posting pictures of dog feces, and then eventually went under altogether. No idea what happened there. The first producer I remember knowing about was Carawam.

I've been here since 2004 when thankfully someone saw my messy yafro account. I never knew this was a "thing" until then !

I remember when I was a big time collector and customer of various sites. At one point I took a bit of a hiatus before coming back. Sometimes people don't realize that people have more than one hobby. Case in point I'm a world history buff and I'm also a collector of medieval memorabilia such as various types of swords and what have you. So I don't think you really outgrow things to be honest with you. Based off of your videos I'm guessing you guys are around my age.

There's no way it's been 24 years already, is there?

/checks profile

...oh, god.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

Still active here after 24 years!!

24 year member here and going to fuck my wife this weekend in a paddling pool of pink gunge.

NEVER GONNA GROW OUT OF THAT

I must be one of those 18. My profile says I've been here 24 years. I don't come around TOO much anymore. Mostly because I have a bit of an internal struggle with the fact that I'm a professed Christian and there's some moral ambiguity within christianity surrounding internet pornography and fetishes in general. But the larger part, I'd say, is that my fetish has gotten kind of specific in the things I would like and be looking for. There isn't much here anymore that caters RIGHT to what I like to see. So, my wife and I make our own videos just for my own viewing pleasure so that I don't resort to coming here and looking at strangers. Lol

But every now and then, I seek out any new content that might appeal to me for ideas. Things I can try at home.

Not sure if that makes sense or not.

Well, I didn't have access to a PC in 1998, so can't have been here for 24 years, at least

That said, I'm another in the "longer than it looks" camp. I first had an account in summer 2011, but that got lost due to a combination of being locked out and a very old PC which doomed the "change your password" emails from here to uselessness. So, I started again in early 2016. But overall, I've been lurking since late 2004.

The funny thing was that I found UMD after about a year of internet cold turkey. I'd already been googling WAM for a couple of years and came across Phoebe's site in late 2003. (She had an actual site then, and not just the Vidown store many remember.) However, my PC caught a virus which I thought came from there. I was pretty embarrassed, and although I think I convinced the repair guy it was an accident ("I, um, googled something that has a double meaning I didn't know and ended somewhere I didn't mean to...") decided I couldn't risk it happening again and so stopped looking for WAM.

The weird thing was that I was quite happy reducing my consumption back to the pre-internet days of NHP clips and my imagination, and didn't feel frustrated at all. But, I eventually started searching again and, after some breath holding as I waited to check that this place didn't harbour viruses, landed here. Been here ever since, in one way or another

My original account was 24 years. However I lost access to my original account years back also so now use this account. Don't post much though. Do come and check things out and chat from time to time with people.

I laughed so much reading that well done man well done

Just want to change the thread picture

Hey, I was wondering how you came up with the "18 relatively still active" number!

I feel like close to 18 posters with 24 years already chimed in here!

I found umd in 2000 when I got dsl Ethernet, and figured out how to find porn. But Prob didn't make a profile till mid 2000s?

Someone sent me a note that said "Even on a historical thread can't you ever be serious?"

Imm going to assume it was a rhetorical question.

Ok fine....so I was about to leave the UMD forever but I couldn't think of something really dramatic....and then while I was contemplating something nice and whiny, I received an email for the first time that was just one LONG paragraph. It was also one long run on sentence and it used the word "Imma" a lot.

It was signed "You're secret admirer, Jayce"

I felt so sorry for the woman's inability to use punctuation that I had to stay.

That's my story and Imma sticky to it.

I too have the 24 year tag, but quite from outgrowing this it has become the opposite, since the evolution of the internet and find out I am not alone in my love of this fetish and long may that continue

Was a long time lurker on here and on Minx. Had an account that was more active on Styx. I can't even remember what prompted me to go from lurker to account. This has really been one of the best places on the internet.

I think so as well

Well, I'm still here!

I don't post as often as I used to, but still check in about once a week or so.

And I hope I'm not outgrowing WAM! It's taken me so long to realise and accept that it's an integral part of who I am. In truth, as we get older, we grow out of sex generally I think, but that's not to say we lose it completely - just it becomes less essential. But every opportunity I get, I'm still getting messy!!

I've been here roughly as long as my profile says (some of the exact dates have been lost in the various hacks and crashes that have happened over the years, but we've always bounced back). First got on UMD in 1998 I think. (I actually discovered MessyFun.com first.) I signed up more or less the same day as Ariel (ooops, I mean "she who shall not be named"), and we were pretty much exactly the same age.

Some great names have come and gone - the aforementioned person, Rob Blaine and Bill Shipton and those who worked with them, Brian Grove.... actually I simply can't name them all - you know who you are and I thank you! I remember when Messygirl Leah was the star of her own website too.....

I owe so much to this site - the images and videos, the ideas, the psychological study, the acceptance, and the community - it's so funny as I've never met anyone off UMD so far, but I do consider many of you friends, as we all share in such an intimate connection.

Thank you Messmaster and the other admins - your tireless work in keeping this community alive is an incredible gift to us all.

There is a paucity of women members it seems

Although I have changed my username/profile more than once I have been here since the beginning.

I participate less and less probably because all the same questions come up over and over again over time. ( What should I wear? How do you get a partner into WAM?)

Also, it seems to me the community has gotten less tolerant, less friendly and has adopted a curious orthodoxy of opinion.

Also, it seems to me there is a growing interest in unpleasant humiliation, simulated (barnyard) fecal matter and the use of toilets as props.

I still remain very grateful to Messmaster for all of his work, creativity and generosity.

I am keenly aware that things tend to go in cycles and I remain optimistic that the emphasis on the playful, light-hearted spirit of fun that I enjoy/prefer may return in force in the future.

Co-sign

For me I've done so much alone with myself growing up so many days walking home when my schoolmates where hiding from the water is walk home in the rain. Walk into puddles appreciate nature and the the emergence of growing with a body. I remember recess and playing soccer in mud. I remember hiking under a waterfall. No matter what has happened to me some element of earth heals me into the present. Weather it's using peanut butter to express lost from my friend dying of Brian cancer or wether it's paint to show how much is going on within me. I keep realizing that I can't love myself in isolation. The paint the peanut butter the marshmallow fluff are all symbolic for me in expressing what's going on with me in the moment. It's why it's not to capture myself without removing myself and focusing on the outcome of what I'm getting at.

For example I thought when I first saw this how intrigued I got with quicksand I didn't know anything about it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rwV-diUmG08

Left a huge imprint on me wish I could have spoke to Rob Blaine and bill shipton Brian grove I didn't know this place was here for the longest time. So many calm soothing elements of mud to keep me from going absolutely insane.

This was the first time I started realizing that going home after a warm day and just showering with what I had on wasn't that weird but could be a way to release a lot of what was going on with me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuiIae59dwo

Than I remember how much I though this would be cool to experience especially molasses
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ft5zURZl77s


I'm glad I know I will probably continue for a long time

Interesting, I'd have said the opposite, things have become a lot more tolerant and respectful over the years. I remember the early days when it was all guys wanting tips on hiding their collections from their wives (though I may be partly mixing UMD up with a.s.f.w-a-m there), the enormous personality-driven flame-wars that exploded all over multiple forums including here, and the way the messy forum used to effectively be a testosterone fuelled bear-pit where anyone who even thought about CD or male wam got mauled to a pulp.

I think MM's relatively light-touch moderation has a lot to do with how things developed in a more civilised direction. Lots of forums, in all kinds of subject, got effectively wiped out by "the mods are god" mentality. MM's done an awesome job. And how the hell does 1998 get to be 24 years ago?


With you 100% there. Toilets are not remotely sexy, the idea of combining WAM with toilets genuinely makes me want to throw up. There was a toilet scene included in the showreel for the first Messtival, I'd four of my models at the event and all five of us found the whole concept utterly revolting. Sorry to the producer who's work it was but honestly, if there's anything more guarenteed to be a scene-killer to me than bad poses and bad camera work, it's toilets. Hard stop, no sale. Nope, nope, nope!

Likewise on humiliation, I know a lot of people do like that as part of sex play but to me WAM should be light-hearted fun, done purely for pleasure and silliness.


100%, absolutely. Also how well he's stewarded this place from the bear-pit of old to the Internet's premier WAM forum and site, bar none.

I would agree with that.


Yep! Been there, done that. Wasn't nice being on the receiving end. Much more sensible now.

Totally agree on the 'barnyard' and toilets issue. As far as I'm concerned, that is a *different* fetish. (There's a huge range of fets but they're all very narrow and specific - look how much so even within WAM ... with different substances, clothing vs nude etc... without drifting sideways into something that isn't really WAM but scat.) That was one thing that I would have disagreed with w.r.t. Bill Shipton's original Splosh forum, tbh. He used to allow anything but I felt it was tainting the WAM fet.


Agreed and, again, my mind turns back to some of Bill's wonderful scenarios... and some of Rob Blaine's too. I don't *think* there's anyone doing the full storylines and spectacular multi-sploshing scenarios that Bill used to do with comedy scripts etc. (though I might have missed them as I don't check out everyone's every time).

Most sites these days seem to limit things to just pouring, or wrestling, or pieing, or sliming (over and over again, so they rapidly become very 'samey') ... but no real 'stories'/'set-up' behind them, like you'd get in old films. It's all 'straight to the gunge', so to speak. (Mind you, I can understand why - the amount of time and effort involved would be too onerous.)

I guess the same questions come up as there are always new people discovering UMD and have the same questions we all did when starting out. Not a problem for me, I either engage or scroll past depending on mood.

I have certainly become less tolerant but only of bigotry, misogyny and general douche-canoes. This is a community, but if someone says something and it's left alone, others might think it's ok to say that and more will follow. I call people out quickly to stop people like that getting a foothold. Many other internet communities have charged due to weeds getting hold. I also notice every time I do this I lose a friend. Good. Don't want to be friends with folks like that.

Agreed to the barnyard stuff, certainly not my thing but tastes change and people often want to try new things as they get bored of the old ones. I remember when someone suggested cat food and it got 20-30 replies, all but 1 saying "yuck, horrid, NOPE". a few years later someone did a cat food scene and it was loved by many.

Humiliation, not seen an increase to be honest, it's always been around. Maybe I haven't noticed as there are so many producers now. Not my thing though so I ignore that too.

Because I love history and making sense of timelines, I'll add to this thread. I first saw parts of Rob Blaine's "Messyfun" site (on a little gray scale screen) 27 years ago and couldn't believe I had actually found my obsession mentioned and even expounded upon with pictures I could barely see. I had been to libraries where I was disappointed by magazine article searches on the topic of mud play (and for my own needs - straight mud play) and found very little. Blaine's site was one of the reasons I finally bought a PC the next year. His reference to USENET and alt.sex.fetish.wet-and-messy brought me into a community of sort, and I contributed what I could until the Web started absorbing more of the energy, and the groups gradually vanished.
Still - it was always an amazement to find long-held fantasies being offered up in living color from around the world. The stories were great too. I don't think we get over what we like, but the availability of so much content dulls some of the excitement of finding out that it even exists.

Been on here since 1999/2000 (so I guess I'm one of the 168 - and I still come on here everyday as there is still a lot of brilliant stuff on here).

I have changed my username a few times (Lady Mud Fan was one of them which I changed as people actually thought that I was a woman......which then is when the Sploshman name popped up).

Found the UMD by accident for typing in Mud Wrestling in my search engine back then and being surprised and shocked that I wasn't alone in liking Splosh/WAM (before that it was like most people on here with TV/movie spots, odd magazine pics and the odd outdoor muddy session when young).

I actually thought I was odd and that was something was wrong with me for enjoying this until I found the UMD.

To say I was relieved was an understatement!!.

Also blew my mind also that MM was also black and into it too as I don't know any other black people that are into this (well as far as I know anyway - someone tell me otherwise if I'm wrong).

It's been a joy to have a community that understands and enjoy's this fetishist as much as i do and it has helped me develop and grow over the years I've been on here too with all the great guys and ladies that I've either spoken to or met in person at splunches and sessions and long may that continue!!

Really hope I can make Vegas again next year as the past two times I've been were brilliant but that all depends on a few things so we'll see

I think the content over the past few years has got better (especially over the past year with the likes of Mistress Lena, Gungeslut, Brooke Madison, All The Boys, The Man and Wife, Wild Thang along with the greats like Jayce, Messygirl, Mrs Bigshipper, Candy, Chantelle, Dungeon Master and others).

Still actually remember in first few times of using the UMD back then actually emailing Messygirl about some advice on getting messy too

well our site says we have been active for 12 years but in fact we both were active togther way way before that..our first movie we bough together was from WSM...then who knew we would one day film for them and meet the crew and enjoy just doing what we love to do and still are....keep enjoying yourselves evryone you only have one life live it the way you want to...

Mr and Mrs CC.x

Very wise advise, my dear.

A few of us out here still fighting the good fight!
I'm actually old-fashioned too, I prefer a good setup. And you're right, it's a LOT of time. I tend to release one scene in the time it takes other producers to release 4 or 5.
But ya know, we all carve out our own space, and this one is mine now, FBOW.

It's also fun to release a 4-minute trailer that's entirely setup, and then the second the first pie hits, it immediately cuts to a "Get this now at SlapstickStuff!" title card. (Well, more fun for me than the viewers, maybe.....)

Oh yeah.... Um, I've been on the UMD for the duration, disappeared for a spell and came back with a new username. Old UMD was neither better nor worse than the current one, but definitely more "no holds barred."