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"Pie tins"
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A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
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Trouso said: A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
It's hard to argue with the results when you see his videos. They are some of the best out there.
I get it (to an extent) for thrown pies, but personally I love tins. I love the sound and I love the feel of them. I also have a certain fondness for that brief moment where the tin is still stuck on the face, before slipping away to reveal what is hopefully a big mess. That is my ode to tins!
Trouso said: A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
The Pie's the Limit!
PeteFforestier said:
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
Trouso said: A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
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If you need convincing regarding the usefulness of pie tins I have one word for you" Ariel!
A stuck pie tin shows a complete lack of respect for the target and to add to the humiliation, it can be worn as a pie hat!
The stuck paper plate also comes highly recommended!
A stuck pie tin shows a complete lack of respect for the target and to add to the humiliation, it can be worn as a pie hat!
The stuck paper plate also comes highly recommended!
I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
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imeanjoegreen said:
Sounds to me like America wins again.
CandyCustard said: I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
Sounds to me like America wins again.
literally only on pies, dear
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For wam videos, no tins work fine - difficult to explain a no tine pie gag in a movie, though (as these don't exist in "reality'")...though the 3 Stooges used thick paper "tins" for their pies....the one problem with tins is that they do add weight to the pie and sometimes 'smack' the model a bit hard, and, if thrown from an appreciable distance, can sometimes turn over slightly, and the tin rim can hit the face at a more 'injurious' angle.
With my first video ('Tabitha's first modelling shoot') the first pie I threw was so heavy that I doubt a mere crust-only pie could have kept it together long enough to effect such a spectacular hit.
Here's a vid capture form a LATER pie toss (on Tabitha) in which the pie (with a large size tin) just SAILED and smacked her square in the face with some degree of force (non-intentionally)...later she mentioned that the pie "kinda stung", and I felt really bad (not realizing how the model would feel the force of it), then she felt bad that I felt bad...she was actually a sweet gal, an a good sport, if a bit diva-ish about her hair..
Oh, to answer the question: I do have a nostalgic fondness for tins
With my first video ('Tabitha's first modelling shoot') the first pie I threw was so heavy that I doubt a mere crust-only pie could have kept it together long enough to effect such a spectacular hit.
Here's a vid capture form a LATER pie toss (on Tabitha) in which the pie (with a large size tin) just SAILED and smacked her square in the face with some degree of force (non-intentionally)...later she mentioned that the pie "kinda stung", and I felt really bad (not realizing how the model would feel the force of it), then she felt bad that I felt bad...she was actually a sweet gal, an a good sport, if a bit diva-ish about her hair..
Oh, to answer the question: I do have a nostalgic fondness for tins
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CandyCustard said: I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
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Trouso said:
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
CandyCustard said: I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
Yeah... I use em too but it's just not the same as graham cracker ones. Weirdly I don't mind the tins staying on that pastry type as much
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Thanks for bringing this up. I'm always on the receiving end and get the pie insides... tin or no tin never bothers me. Haha!
imeanjoegreen said:
Nice GDP ya got there
CandyCustard said:
literally only on pies, dear
imeanjoegreen said:
Sounds to me like America wins again.
CandyCustard said: I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
Sounds to me like America wins again.
literally only on pies, dear
Nice GDP ya got there
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CandyCustard said:
Yeah... I use em too but it's just not the same as graham cracker ones. Weirdly I don't mind the tins staying on that pastry type as much
Trouso said:
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
CandyCustard said: I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
Yeah... I use em too but it's just not the same as graham cracker ones. Weirdly I don't mind the tins staying on that pastry type as much
I just bought some more of those 'cheap' pastry bases yesterday - interestingly they don't actually come in a tin so, ironically you'd have to add one if you preferred them that way. But they are a little smaller than the Graham's.
The other option - embracing the tin - is the same filling/topping but lining it with crushed digestives and treacle. These are a lot quicker - and cheaper (x three, deep 9 inch tins cost about the same as 1 crust)
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Trouso said: A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
I stand behind those words still.
A tin gets in the way of seeing the hit and makes a horrible noise, as bad as hearing models moving around on a plastic sheet - something I can avoid now as well.
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The crusts in Noise's post there are great- but I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in real life.
There another producer, I'm sure, who's used tins that easily slide off when the pie's stuck to the face, and I think that's a best-of-both worlds scenario. My only concern with tins is, as other people have warned in the past, the danger of sharp edges.
There another producer, I'm sure, who's used tins that easily slide off when the pie's stuck to the face, and I think that's a best-of-both worlds scenario. My only concern with tins is, as other people have warned in the past, the danger of sharp edges.
I hoped you'd chime in at some point, Noise, (although in the old days you'd have appeared in seconds!) and thanks.
The reason I posted is - perhaps not in those exact words - I tend to agree wholeheartedly. Whether I'm making my own scene or watching someone else's content I always feel tins or plates are a bit of a compromise. I've used them, of course, but always prefer the results when I haven't and just have the crusts
And often some otherwise really great producers' work has turned me off by their routine use of tinned pies. It just seems to take the 'oooomf' out of it.
For some, tins hold fond associations - and sometimes they work. They're certainly, practically easier. But, on the whole, tins conceal what's going on. They're obtrusive.
To use a very extreme example: it's a bit like shutting someone in a wardrobe, gunging them, and then letting them out so you can see the results.
Pastries break and explode and offer unfettered delight.
The reason I posted is - perhaps not in those exact words - I tend to agree wholeheartedly. Whether I'm making my own scene or watching someone else's content I always feel tins or plates are a bit of a compromise. I've used them, of course, but always prefer the results when I haven't and just have the crusts
And often some otherwise really great producers' work has turned me off by their routine use of tinned pies. It just seems to take the 'oooomf' out of it.
For some, tins hold fond associations - and sometimes they work. They're certainly, practically easier. But, on the whole, tins conceal what's going on. They're obtrusive.
To use a very extreme example: it's a bit like shutting someone in a wardrobe, gunging them, and then letting them out so you can see the results.
Pastries break and explode and offer unfettered delight.
Bringing pleasure to literally tens of people!
maxoverdrive said: The crusts in Noise's post there are great- but I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in real life.
There another producer, I'm sure, who's used tins that easily slide off when the pie's stuck to the face, and I think that's a best-of-both worlds scenario. My only concern with tins is, as other people have warned in the past, the danger of sharp edges.
There another producer, I'm sure, who's used tins that easily slide off when the pie's stuck to the face, and I think that's a best-of-both worlds scenario. My only concern with tins is, as other people have warned in the past, the danger of sharp edges.
In Britain, anyway, there is no firm tradition of making such large pastry desserts as Boston cream pies. So they don't actually exist unless you make them yourself. Where they are manufactured commercially at all they are tiny and inferior in comparison.
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producers like s.s. and angle fan do a really good job of using pie tins for their pies but have this way....AND I SWEAR BY ALL THAT IS HOLY, I WILL GET IT DOWN ONE DAY! they have huge hands to do it!!
BUT, they hit the girl with the pie, but its like the tin never even touches the girls face. they have a grip on the tin where everything comes out perfectly as it should but the tin BARELY EVER seems like it hits the face!!
I THINK, i may be wrong, but they are palming the tin and bending the tin a bit and basically putting force behind the initial throw and then stopping RIGHT BEFORE the tin hits the face and letting the laws of physics do their job and the stuff flings out nicely.
and you listen here, NOISE! i need that tarp!! I aint trying to clean that shit up especially when i usually have less than an hour before i HAVE to have that stuff cleaned up. im working out of my own house! lol! XD
yall have NO IDEA even though i tarped my garage with 125 dollars worth of tarp...(thank you to sponsors!) i STILL have that red dover mud splattered in places i never thought it would go!! HAVING A WAM HOUSE IS WORK!!
love you, NOISE!! your pies are awesome...and i have thrown a FEW of them like that its really fun!
BUT, they hit the girl with the pie, but its like the tin never even touches the girls face. they have a grip on the tin where everything comes out perfectly as it should but the tin BARELY EVER seems like it hits the face!!
I THINK, i may be wrong, but they are palming the tin and bending the tin a bit and basically putting force behind the initial throw and then stopping RIGHT BEFORE the tin hits the face and letting the laws of physics do their job and the stuff flings out nicely.
and you listen here, NOISE! i need that tarp!! I aint trying to clean that shit up especially when i usually have less than an hour before i HAVE to have that stuff cleaned up. im working out of my own house! lol! XD
yall have NO IDEA even though i tarped my garage with 125 dollars worth of tarp...(thank you to sponsors!) i STILL have that red dover mud splattered in places i never thought it would go!! HAVING A WAM HOUSE IS WORK!!
love you, NOISE!! your pies are awesome...and i have thrown a FEW of them like that
its really fun!There isn’t a mess I don’t love!
kittenish said: I get it (to an extent) for thrown pies, but personally I love tins. I love the sound and I love the feel of them. I also have a certain fondness for that brief moment where the tin is still stuck on the face, before slipping away to reveal what is hopefully a big mess. That is my ode to tins!
Perfectly stated by Kittenish. I agree entirely.
Also, if you're being pied by someone who hasn't done it before, and you're uncertain of how well the pies have thawed, the presence of a tin is better for distributing the force of the hand holding it. There's less chance of a broken nose if the pie "gives" more easily than expected. IMHO, anyway.
Gosh, the controversy rages on!
I enjoy both Noise's no-tin pie hits video clips (and for that matter, Neil's old stuff, as he basically started this trend)...and yes, Rich uses both on occasion.
But to comment on Noise's statement that the tin interferes with or "gets in the way of seeing the hit"...well, sure for a second or so (and the rare times when the tin sticks is appealing to some folks), but one could also say that the tin adds a bit of suspense to the effect of the hit (there's the splat/hit, then the "reveal")...and that the crust-only hit is too "instant gratification" and loses some element of anticipation, etc....
One should also note that the trend with no-tins works mostly (and sometimes ONLY) with not-real pies (crust and Kool whip only) as any amount of filling wets the crust and causes it to crack (making it nearly impossible to pick up and throw)...so, I think the no-tins fans are the same ones who are happy enough with just white cream (over and over) and don't care about "real" pies (especially if they grew up watching kid's game shows where the volume of pies used demanded a simpler pie formula: a pile of thick cream)....The no-tins crowd wants (generally) a consistent look to each hit.(= a reliable sight gag)...
On the other hand...tin fans want either a realistic pie or a messier pie, or both....a tin can hold a thicker, multi-layered pie (or at least two layers, filling and cream) which means a messier (and more varied/random) aftermath....variety v. consistency seem to be the central factors, apart from the differing traditions (that formed the memories we recall).
I enjoy both Noise's no-tin pie hits video clips (and for that matter, Neil's old stuff, as he basically started this trend)...and yes, Rich uses both on occasion.
But to comment on Noise's statement that the tin interferes with or "gets in the way of seeing the hit"...well, sure for a second or so (and the rare times when the tin sticks is appealing to some folks), but one could also say that the tin adds a bit of suspense to the effect of the hit (there's the splat/hit, then the "reveal")...and that the crust-only hit is too "instant gratification" and loses some element of anticipation, etc....
One should also note that the trend with no-tins works mostly (and sometimes ONLY) with not-real pies (crust and Kool whip only) as any amount of filling wets the crust and causes it to crack (making it nearly impossible to pick up and throw)...so, I think the no-tins fans are the same ones who are happy enough with just white cream (over and over) and don't care about "real" pies (especially if they grew up watching kid's game shows where the volume of pies used demanded a simpler pie formula: a pile of thick cream)....The no-tins crowd wants (generally) a consistent look to each hit.(= a reliable sight gag)...
On the other hand...tin fans want either a realistic pie or a messier pie, or both....a tin can hold a thicker, multi-layered pie (or at least two layers, filling and cream) which means a messier (and more varied/random) aftermath....variety v. consistency seem to be the central factors, apart from the differing traditions (that formed the memories we recall).
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piefan2 said: If you need convincing regarding the usefulness of pie tins I have one word for you" Ariel!
A stuck pie tin shows a complete lack of respect for the target and to add to the humiliation, it can be worn as a pie hat!
The stuck paper plate also comes highly recommended!
A stuck pie tin shows a complete lack of respect for the target and to add to the humiliation, it can be worn as a pie hat!
The stuck paper plate also comes highly recommended!
I like the tin plates, Ariel looks good in the shirts and white jean's getting pied!
Trouso said:
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PeteFforestier said:
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
Trouso said: A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
Alt + 3
Thanks Trouso - not just a brilliant Producer!
The Pie's the Limit!
Trouso said:
Alt + 3
PeteFforestier said:
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
Trouso said: A few years ago, Noise's slogan was 'No fucking tins!' as he proceeded to lead an almost 'white chair' style backlash against the pie tin.
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
But how does everyone feel about this now?
Tin - or no tin?
IMHO, the sound of tins ruins the sound of a pie as it hits, especially from a distance. I have a MG download of the beautifully endowed Maddie getting absolutely obliterated with pies. Unfortunately, the crashing sound of tins distracts from the pleasure. Where's the frickin' hashtag on this Apple keyboard???
Alt + 3
#Thanks Trouso - not just a brilliant #Producer!
The Pie's the Limit!
Trouso said:
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
CandyCustard said: I don't like tins on pies but it's very difficult in the UK (or expensive, or both) and then very painstaking and time consuming to get hold of graham cracker crusts in a huge enough quantity, remove them from tins without breaking them and get them in something to hold them together while you throw them
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
When shooting wam you want quick, cheap and easy as even all the easy stuff adds up to a shedload of hard work for a whole weekend shooting. So difficult, expensive and long winded hardly gets my vote
GODDAMN I love the effect though
I use those ready made pastry crusts you get in supermarkets (the savoury ones are cheaper). They look fabulous with some thick cream piled in - as they explode on contact. But they're very expensive and often crumble to pieces the second you pick them up. Tins are easier and quicker but they do tend to obscure what's going on as the pie hits its target!
Don't get the ones I bought from ASDA - nearly broke a lady's face as they were so thick and hard!!
The Pie's the Limit!
My observations, as someone who's used both for years and years:
--"No tins" limits you to baked crusts. That's a certain look. The crust *can* break apart upon impact, but usually it's in large pieces. I like using these for throwing, as there's a certain satisfaction when the crust "explodes" upon impact with the face. You can't achieve the same effect with a tin.
--Store-bought crusts (AKA graham cracker) can't be held out of the tin, at least not easily, and why would you? The advantage here is that the crust can break into pieces beforehand (sometimes just a few, and sometimes as fine as sand) but with the cream and filling on top, you get the look of ALL that hitting the face. Especially when using shaving cream, you can get a great "mask" look from crusts in a tin that is impossible with no tins. If you do throw them, the crust can also be broken beforehand so you create a nice "splatter" of crust and cream together on impact. (Although visually the initial "hit" is much better with a no-tin crust.)
Examples below using Jen:
1) No-tin crust & shaving cream, thrown, exploding on impact
2) Graham cracker crust w/tin & shaving cream, "mask" effect
3) Graham cracker crust w/tin & shaving cream, thrown for "splatter" effect
4) No-tin crust & shaving cream, pushed in face (notice one large crust)
5) No-tin crust w/cream & pudding, thrown, aftermath
6) Graham cracker crust w/tin & Cool Whip & pudding, "classic" SlapstickStuff
7) Graham cracker crust w/tin & chocolate, "sand" effect
8) No-tin crusts & shaving cream, thrown, aftermath
--"No tins" limits you to baked crusts. That's a certain look. The crust *can* break apart upon impact, but usually it's in large pieces. I like using these for throwing, as there's a certain satisfaction when the crust "explodes" upon impact with the face. You can't achieve the same effect with a tin.
--Store-bought crusts (AKA graham cracker) can't be held out of the tin, at least not easily, and why would you? The advantage here is that the crust can break into pieces beforehand (sometimes just a few, and sometimes as fine as sand) but with the cream and filling on top, you get the look of ALL that hitting the face. Especially when using shaving cream, you can get a great "mask" look from crusts in a tin that is impossible with no tins. If you do throw them, the crust can also be broken beforehand so you create a nice "splatter" of crust and cream together on impact. (Although visually the initial "hit" is much better with a no-tin crust.)
Examples below using Jen:
1) No-tin crust & shaving cream, thrown, exploding on impact
2) Graham cracker crust w/tin & shaving cream, "mask" effect
3) Graham cracker crust w/tin & shaving cream, thrown for "splatter" effect
4) No-tin crust & shaving cream, pushed in face (notice one large crust)
5) No-tin crust w/cream & pudding, thrown, aftermath
6) Graham cracker crust w/tin & Cool Whip & pudding, "classic" SlapstickStuff
7) Graham cracker crust w/tin & chocolate, "sand" effect
8) No-tin crusts & shaving cream, thrown, aftermath
maxoverdrive said: The crusts in Noise's post there are great- but I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in real life.
They exist even in the UK, it's a bit of an art form though to bake them so they don't break up as you hold them to throw.
Trouso said: I hoped you'd chime in at some point, Noise, (although in the old days you'd have appeared in seconds!) and thanks.
The reason I posted is - perhaps not in those exact words - I tend to agree wholeheartedly. Whether I'm making my own scene or watching someone else's content I always feel tins or plates are a bit of a compromise. I've used them, of course, but always prefer the results when I haven't and just have the crusts
And often some otherwise really great producers' work has turned me off by their routine use of tinned pies. It just seems to take the 'oooomf' out of it.
For some, tins hold fond associations - and sometimes they work. They're certainly, practically easier. But, on the whole, tins conceal what's going on. They're obtrusive.
To use a very extreme example: it's a bit like shutting someone in a wardrobe, gunging them, and then letting them out so you can see the results.
Pastries break and explode and offer unfettered delight.
The reason I posted is - perhaps not in those exact words - I tend to agree wholeheartedly. Whether I'm making my own scene or watching someone else's content I always feel tins or plates are a bit of a compromise. I've used them, of course, but always prefer the results when I haven't and just have the crusts
And often some otherwise really great producers' work has turned me off by their routine use of tinned pies. It just seems to take the 'oooomf' out of it.
For some, tins hold fond associations - and sometimes they work. They're certainly, practically easier. But, on the whole, tins conceal what's going on. They're obtrusive.
To use a very extreme example: it's a bit like shutting someone in a wardrobe, gunging them, and then letting them out so you can see the results.
Pastries break and explode and offer unfettered delight.
Ach, I'm in semi non permanent retirement. When I have the spare money, space and time all at the same time I'll be back for real.
As rich pointed out, if you like graheam cracker crust... there's no losing the tin, although i have an idea I want to try next time I bring out the cameras.
Thanks for he tutorial Rich...well summed up...I forgot to mention LENNY as a purveyor of crust-only pie vids for much if not most of his career ( i guess butter cream is just the right weight to volume ratio pie substance)....sorry Lenny!
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