So, as the title states, I'm not feeling good and will be spending New Year's Eve/Day at home in bed. As much as I was looking forward to not having to go out in the crowds this year since my normal partner in crime is going out with her boyfriend, having the option of going out taken away by the flu or whatever this is has me feeling pretty down. So... I turn to you all:
Please, give me some inspiration for what to create with AI this weekend and I'll post the results here.
Some limitations: 1 - No nudity or overly sexual suggestiveness. I'm unverified due to paranoia over my privacy, so I'm just plain not allowed to post this stuff per the UMD FAQ. No sense in spending time on stuff I can't post, right? Also, I don't want to fight the AI censors or get banned.
2 - Preferably female content only, although couples are fine too. I'm just not super interested in male WAM. I'm doing this for fun and to pass the time, so I'd prefer it to be something I'll enjoy creating.
3 - Likewise, I'd prefer to focus on outfits I enjoy seeing, as that will lead to me making a lot more images of that type. I will most likely skip over or modify requests for thick, heavy clothing like long winter coats or boilersuits , BDSM gear, swimwear/underwear, or baggy attire.
4 - Images only, not stories. Unless I'm feeling well enough to get up out of bed, I'll be doing this on my phone. Just typing up this post is taking forever.
5 - Lastly, situations: I will not do humiliation, disgusting substances, obvious danger, or violence.
So, ladies and gentlemen, what situations, activities, locations, or attire should I focus my attention and efforts on?
Ok, I'll give what I hope will be an interesting and challenging situation, activity and location, but the real challenge for me (what I've tried and failed to get) is the type of person/people.
Two black African or afro Carribbean women who are about size 16-18 (bing seems to give either skinny model types or super obese, with no in-between. I can get athletic bodies too, but that's not what I'm looking for here). They should be on a tennis court. One person should be lying down, with the other standing over them pouring mess (custard, pudding, pies, slime - all is good) on them. They should be wearing either tennis clothes or for more challenge, velvety Christmas dresses/gowns.
Extra credit if you get some thematic way of delivering the mess incorporated. A ball firing machine, or hitting/throwing it over the net etc. Even more extra credit if you can get afro hair covered in mess in a believable way.
Kabe22 said: So, ladies and gentlemen, what situations, activities, locations, or attire should I focus my attention and efforts on?
Your restrictions are very similar to my personal preferences. But what are YOUR personal preferences? I'm using AI to see situations that I can't get from WAM producers. (I once asked a prolific wetlook producer who I often buy from for long, black gloves. What he did was short knit gloves.)
Water is always good and safe. Use "in the rain" or "with wet hair" if you're on a hyper-sensitive service like Bing. I sometimes combine water with pies - one of my personal pecadildos.
Sleazoid44 said: Your restrictions are very similar to my personal preferences. But what are YOUR personal preferences? I'm using AI to see situations that I can't get from WAM producers. (I once asked a prolific wetlook producer who I often buy from for long, black gloves. What he did was short knit gloves.)
I'm the same, using AI to get what I can't get from producers. There are only a handful of videos/ sets out there that cater to my ultimate fantasy of women in full ballgowns, long gloves, heels, jewelry, etc getting wet or messy. Many producers do formal WAM, but their focuses are generally on the material of the dress rather than its style and the model's overall appearance. I love wet satin, but I need more than just a long, plain dress made out of satin. On top of that, most producers who do formal WAM don't bother with hair, makeup, jewelry, etc, so the model doesn't actually look like she's going somewhere fancy. So, that's my rant. Lol
But I'm not just into formalwear. I like jeans, leggings, pretty blouses, skirts of all lengths, and even normal athletic clothes if it's on the right model. Faces and hair are super important for my enjoyment, and a model who looks put-together will get my attention regardless of what she is wearing.
My goal with this thread is to broaden my horizons a little bit, to try ideas that wouldn't normally occur to me, and maybe to give someone something they've been unable to get elsewhere.
wam262 said: Ok, I'll give what I hope will be an interesting and challenging situation, activity and location, but the real challenge for me (what I've tried and failed to get) is the type of person/people.
Two black African or afro Carribbean women who are about size 16-18 (bing seems to give either skinny model types or super obese, with no in-between. I can get athletic bodies too, but that's not what I'm looking for here). They should be on a tennis court. One person should be lying down, with the other standing over them pouring mess (custard, pudding, pies, slime - all is good) on them. They should be wearing either tennis clothes or for more challenge, velvety Christmas dresses/gowns.
Extra credit if you get some thematic way of delivering the mess incorporated. A ball firing machine, or hitting/throwing it over the net etc. Even more extra credit if you can get afro hair covered in mess in a believable way.
I'll see what I can do!
I'm not sure I'll be able to get it just right though, because specific poses (especially with multiple models doing different things) can be really difficult. And as you said, the generators don't like making normal body types.
wam262 said: Two black African or afro Carribbean women who are about size 16-18 (bing seems to give either skinny model types or super obese, with no in-between. I can get athletic bodies too, but that's not what I'm looking for here). They should be on a tennis court. One person should be lying down, with the other standing over them pouring mess (custard, pudding, pies, slime - all is good) on them. They should be wearing either tennis clothes or for more challenge, velvety Christmas dresses/gowns.
Extra credit if you get some thematic way of delivering the mess incorporated. A ball firing machine, or hitting/throwing it over the net etc. Even more extra credit if you can get afro hair covered in mess in a believable way.
I've been trying various prompts based around this concept for about an hour now, and have only one picture to show for it. It's just "Prompt Blocked" again and again. Weirdly enough, terms like "black woman" and "plus-sized" are getting the prompts blocked too. I stripped the prompt down to just "Two female tennis players wearing tennis dresses on a tennis court," and that works well enough. But adding in "plus-sized" or "of normal body types" or terms like that were getting blocked. "Black woman" got blocked, "Afro" got blocked, but "Afro-Carribbean" was fine (but in 3 out of 6 images, at least one of the women were white).
wam262 said: Ok, I'll give what I hope will be an interesting and challenging situation, activity and location, but the real challenge for me (what I've tried and failed to get) is the type of person/people.
Two black African or afro Carribbean women who are about size 16-18 (bing seems to give either skinny model types or super obese, with no in-between. I can get athletic bodies too, but that's not what I'm looking for here). They should be on a tennis court. One person should be lying down, with the other standing over them pouring mess (custard, pudding, pies, slime - all is good) on them. They should be wearing either tennis clothes or for more challenge, velvety Christmas dresses/gowns.
Extra credit if you get some thematic way of delivering the mess incorporated. A ball firing machine, or hitting/throwing it over the net etc. Even more extra credit if you can get afro hair covered in mess in a believable way.
After a bit more playing around, I've managed to get some results. They're not great, as I think they're borderline on the filters so I couldn't get as detailed with the mess as I usually can. A lot of them look almost comical, like the early WAM AI images, so I'm a bit disappointed by that. I did manage to get a few with larger women, but a lot of those got blocked. I had a lot better luck with the Christmas dresses than I did with tennis dresses.
The word "Chubby" got me rather obese women, but "curvy size 16" got the larger women below, so maybe you can try that in your future attempts I got that tip from Spike5 in their "Chubby AI WAM" thread.
I would be delighted to see a combination of a fancy short dress with jeans under it, that is what makes me excited in my fantasy I imagine it slightly in a gothic style, but it is just my thought. The more wet and dirty, the better, of course. It might be a little bizarre stuff
Kabe22 I really like the dress that is in your profile image. I can imagine being covered in a silky dress like that gives an amazing sensation. Somehow the feeling of being warmed by a campfire and drinking a hot beverage seems very appealing.
I was wondering if you can make something really warm with a similar red dress, silky red robe, red qipao, or a silky red bed sheet. Maybe something next to a warm fireplace or candles. I am wondering if is possible to generate a dress while in a mud bath. Maybe a little mess from a spa mud mask, lotion on the body, or maybe a contrasting green goop. Anything warm feeling with any subject with red silky fabric would be great
Insi said: I would be delighted to see a combination of a fancy short dress with jeans under it, that is what makes me excited in my fantasy I imagine it slightly in a gothic style, but it is just my thought. The more wet and dirty, the better, of course. It might be a little bizarre stuff
I tried I learned something very important by doing this one: Using the word "skinny" anywhere in the prompt amplifies the generators' tendency to make all the women models, so using the words "skinny jeans" was giving me almost skeletal women as a result, and that kinda scared me. lol But it also took me a while to figure out why it kept giving me such skinny women.
I really struggled to get the jeans and dress to overlap, and most of the ones that succeeded were accidental and I couldn't reproduce them. I serious was at this for a few hours and have about 200 pictures as a result, but so many of them are just, well... bad or completely unrealistic.I'm sorry about them all being in the same pose, but I kinda forgot about that because I was focused on their clothing.
I switched over to Nightcafe for a while because my account there was just sitting on unused tokens, but I remembered why I drifted away from it. It's HARD to get any kind of wetlook at all with SDXL and the 1.5 models look so fake now compared to DALL-E3. But I did get a few that I liked. They're the more vibrant ones with the red and blue outfits. Also, SDXL is quite a bit behind DALL-E3 when it comes to following the prompt, especially with clothing. The outfits it gave are nothing like what I asked for.
I hope there's at least a couple in here that you like! (And the soccer ones were for my own amusement because... well... ADHD , but I like the handful I'm including in this)
Thank you so much for accepting my slightly weird challenge! I really appreciate the effort and time you have invested. And I like them a lot! All of them. This is an outfit I don't see so often in reality. And you have certainly created some stylish dresses. It could become my dream world If I am ever going to arrange a royal ball, you're the first invited BTW I never thought that playing soccer in a gown could be so amazing.
mFeelzGood said: Kabe22 I really like the dress that is in your profile image. I can imagine being covered in a silky dress like that gives an amazing sensation. Somehow the feeling of being warmed by a campfire and drinking a hot beverage seems very appealing.
I was wondering if you can make something really warm with a similar red dress, silky red robe, red qipao, or a silky red bed sheet. Maybe something next to a warm fireplace or candles. I am wondering if is possible to generate a dress while in a mud bath. Maybe a little mess from a spa mud mask, lotion on the body, or maybe a contrasting green goop. Anything warm feeling with any subject with red silky fabric would be great
Don't worry, I didn't forget about this one. I hope these pictures are along the lines of what you were looking for. As requested, lots of red silky fabric in comfortable, warm places
I had a lot of trouble at the beginning getting even one image past the filter until I remembered something I've read in these forums but it hadn't really clicked in my head until right then: Let the environment do what it wants to do. I kept trying to get the women to lie or sit in the mud using words like "reclining" or "relaxing," and as usual, "bath" kept triggering the censor. Trying to make the women muddy or putting mud in their hair wasn't working either.
Changing "mud bath" to "indoor geothermal pool full of mud" got me less full prompt blocks, but I was still only getting 1 image in between blocks. Adding in a fireplace neither helped nor hurt my success rate, so I kept it for the warmth factor. A lot of these pictures do look like a warm, cozy place to read a book. Calm, quiet, warm, and comfortable. I'm actually a little bit jealous of these imaginary women, even though I don't actually get my dresses muddy in real life (just water for me!).
But then I changed "reclining" to "reading a book" and suddenly I was getting 2, 3, or even all 4 images to pass. "Sipping tea from a mug" gave me some very unsanitary-looking cups, but still worked for getting pictures. So then, I decided to push my luck and add a second woman and picked the first two-person activity that came to mind: playing checkers. Bing seems to have no idea what checkers is because it gave me chess in every image, but I love the results... just two women happy and relaxed, sipping tea as they calmly play chess by the fireplace in what I can only assume are insanely expensive ballgowns... half-submerged in mud.
So... this is the prompt for my final set of images:
two woman wearing a mud-stained red satin ballgowns and long satin gloves sipping tea from a mug as they play checkers in an indoor geothermal pool full of mud next to a fireplace
One final note, just a fun little tidbit about me: I tend to wander around when I'm engrossed in a book and then I'll get to some part of the story that just makes me stop moving and I'll sit down right there, no matter where I am. My roommate has found me reading in all kinds of strange places, and I never have any idea how I got there. Under the kitchen table, in closets, on our front sidewalk, halfway down the stairs, sitting on the floor next to chairs, and even on the neighbors porch a couple times. I can't help but imagine that many of the ladies reading did the same... just wandered into the room and sat down without a care in the world, totally engrossed in their books.
Ok, one more final note: Sorry to any moderators who had to ok all my pictures. I know we're probably making your job harder with all these picture dumps, but I'm happy I can finally contribute something to the community. I've been a lurker since as far back as I can remember. I finally made an account like 4 years ago, but I've been reading the forums and looking at the shops for... i don't know... 15-20 years? But I'm horrible at narrowing down to just a handful, so I uploaded ALL my favorites, so I'm sorry for that.
These are amazing and I really enjoy viewing them. Thank you.
The props really made these feel warm and relaxing. Especially the books. I like how you incorporate your own habit of being engrossed in a book. It is so much fun to be able to share ideas and thoughts with images. When I tried making this without props, the subject would just be sitting awkwardly and looks uncomfortable.
I wish there were spa saunas with geothermally heated mud pools and fireplaces inside mansions hehe. I would enjoy this so much.
wam262 said: Weirdly enough, terms like "black woman" and "plus-sized" are getting the prompts blocked too.
This is where you let Bing provide what you want without asking. For example, 'wearing a large sized dress' might get accepted, and Bing will put it on a larger body. Also, I would say something about one of the tennis players having an afro hairstyle. There will be a 99% chance that Bing will show a black woman.
Bobographer said: This is where you let Bing provide what you want without asking. For example, 'wearing a large sized dress' might get accepted, and Bing will put it on a larger body. Also, I would say something about one of the tennis players having an afro hairstyle. There will be a 99% chance that Bing will show a black woman.
Thanks! I'll try that next time. Also, I think you're the one who said to let the environment do the work for you, so I need to give you credit for helping me break free of the censor with the ladies in red. Thanks again!
mFeelzGood said: These are amazing and I really enjoy viewing them. Thank you.
The props really made these feel warm and relaxing. Especially the books. I like how you incorporate your own habit of being engrossed in a book. It is so much fun to be able to share ideas and thoughts with images. When I tried making this without props, the subject would just be sitting awkwardly and looks uncomfortable.
I wish there were spa saunas with geothermally heated mud pools and fireplaces inside mansions hehe. I would enjoy this so much.
I'm glad you like them! I really enjoyed making them. I hadn't really intended to involve books at all, but then once I got going, I was trying to think of synonyms for relaxing and was trying to think of relaxing activities. Reading is one of my favorite ways to relax, so I went with that.
I only included a few of my first few successes (the ones where the woman is outdoors) because most of them were as you said, awkward and uncomfortable. They looked like haute couture photoshoots that nobody anywhere can actually relate to. But a lot of the reading ones and chess-playing ones actually look almost natural and super cozy and comfortable.
What about wearing a light blue long satin prom dress with long black gloves. In a pool or something where it's clear it wasn't intentional for them to get wet.