Dont know how everyone else feels but I really dont think wamming with food is very ethical atm. Unless all the messy people have been stock piling all the beans cause there isn't any here People have been told not to panic buy but they have been out in force today judging by peoples facebook feeds ! Thankfully I have a few packages of gunge and splosh pies and some clay to soak to keep me going for a bit ! I think even foam will be difficult to get hold of.
Don't embrace the panic. They're still making the stuff and any shortage is only going to be temporary. This is what leads to hoarding and just makes things worse. Relax.
The shortage of stock will be temporary, unless the panic buyers are panic eating it all too, in reality a lot of the extra food people have bought may end up being wasted if they don't need to use it, it will sit in cupboards and garages until it goes out of date unfortunately. Hope the lack of supplies doesn't affect posts too much, we might just need to turn to more Wet and less Messy for a while, besides you look great in a wet outfit Cinq
The mere existence of this thread made me snigger out loud. I've been trying to get beans for about a week and only just managed to get some today, but mine will be going on toast (presuming I can still find bread). I do have a little stash of gunge powder, and hopefully it shouldn't be too many more weeks before the UK warms up enough to get muddy.
MuddyOtter said: The mere existence of this thread made me snigger out loud. I've been trying to get beans for about a week and only just managed to get some today, but mine will be going on toast (presuming I can still find bread). I do have a little stash of gunge powder, and hopefully it shouldn't be too many more weeks before the UK warms up enough to get muddy.
You and me both !
Least we know when they get them back in its fresh stock ! Wouldn't mind I used to live near Heinz in Wigan they would of sent me a bath over if I had asked
There are people who do not have the means to stockpile and we should remember their plight. They can only afford to buy just enough to keep them going but are currently unable to do so because other people have gone a bit mad and cleaned out the stores.
These are very scary times we are living through at present and, although it will only be temporary, it will go on for some time yet. I don't think it would be appropriate for people to be pleasuring themselves with food when there are other people literally going without sustenance. I'm afraid the economic downturn already resulting from this virus will hit a lot of people very hard too.
We need to get some perspective on what's important here.
What gets wiped out & what remains on the shelves in supermarkets in the USA, at least, is a mystery to me. Shows I know nothing about marketing or retail. All orange juice, aisles of cans of beans wiped out at Wegmans today Monday 2020 March 16. But, Wegmans was very well stocked with fresh fruits & vegetables. And had plenty of peanut butter & nutella/chocolate hazelnut spread.
Aldi on Saturday 2020 March 14 was wiped out of nearly the same things, but, like Wegmans, also had plenty of peanut butter & nutella/chocolate hazelnut spread.
All jars of tomato-basil Wegmans brand pasta sauce at Wegmans. But had plenty of Parmesan cheese flavored Wegmans brand pasta sauce.
And all stores had plenty of jars of condiments: Wegmans, ShopRite, & Aldi.
The "edible oil"-based whipped topping and pudding that I use very barely counts as "food". I am doing society a great service by wasting as much of it as possible, so no one has to eat it.
Lizzie_Claymore said: There are people who do not have the means to stockpile and we should remember their plight. They can only afford to buy just enough to keep them going but are currently unable to do so because other people have gone a bit mad and cleaned out the stores.
Now now, people are not suddenly starving because of greedy, inconsiderate assholes buying 26 boxes of cereal because of coronageddeon...no, those poor hungry people (I'm sorry, I meant people with "food insecurity") have been hungry since before the plague.
That's not to deride or belittle your comment, rather to realize that people go just as hungry the rest of the time. Besides, most of what we tend to WAM/splosh with isn't exactly wholesome or nutritious. The real problem is people stockpiling (and probably wasting) REAL food, not chocolate syrup.
As for Zoidberg's observation: what you see with Orange Juice has less to do with the corona virus maniacs and more to do with a plague that's been ravaging orange groves for awhile now. Something called "Citrus Greening". I guess the oranges are becoming limes.
Lady Jasmine and I managed to stock up on Devon Dream and custard on Friday night, enough for a few scenes while still leaving stock in the shops for other people, but no-one was panic buying custard at that point. Over the weekend things in the shops went utterly mental, to the point that once current supplies are used, we probably won't shoot any further food scenes this year, instead we'll concentrate on gunge, and then mud scenes once the season opens and assuming the weather cooperates. We have dozens of unreleased scenes in the can anyway so this won't affect our output mix
Tonight I visited an Asda for a little general shopping, apparently they did have hand sanitiser at about 10pm, but it had gone by 1:30am and the pharmacy aisle looked like someone had fought a war through it. Underneath all the scattered empty boxes and dead packaging I found one pack of paracetamol, and one of cold and flu pills. I felt like a scavenger from a post-apocalyptic movie.
Now now, people are not suddenly starving because of greedy, inconsiderate assholes buying 26 boxes of cereal because of coronageddeon...no, those poor hungry people (I'm sorry, I meant people with "food insecurity") have been hungry since before the plague.
True, but the broader point still holds. Poor people don't have the liquid cash or credit to suddenly stock up. They need to have food available when their cheques (or food stamps) come in. The hoarding mentality puts a disproportionately heavier burden on the poor.
Dont know how everyone else feels but I really dont think wamming with food is very ethical atm. Unless all the messy people have been stock piling all the beans cause there isn't any here People have been told not to panic buy but they have been out in force today judging by peoples facebook feeds ! Thankfully I have a few packages of gunge and splosh pies and some clay to soak to keep me going for a bit ! I think even foam will be difficult to get hold of.
Scary times....
Agreed. There are plenty of alternative substances to use instead of foodstuffs.
One thing I can never understand is the use of top-of-the-range beans or custard etc. for messy sessions. Surely the cheap stuff will do?! I see people using premier brands, then complaining they're short of funds.
Pasta said: One thing I can never understand is the use of top-of-the-range beans or custard etc. for messy sessions. Surely the cheap stuff will do?! I see people using premier brands, then complaining they're short of funds.
Using the premium ones makes no sense as they tend to be much thicker, which means much tastier to eat but much less condusive to pouring.
1. Take one model in a nice white shirt and white jeans. Poss add wellies to taste.
2. Take a can of Heniz beans (pemium brand), open it, and then hold it upside down over the model. If you're lucky perhaps a little of the contents will drop on the model. Sometimes nothing at all with come out.
3. Take a can of supermarket own-brand beans (but not "value", so mid-market), open it, hold it upside down over the model. You'll get some definitel flow, perhaps 2/3 of the can will drop on them. Rest will stck to the inside od the tin.
4. Take a can of supermarket "value" beans, open it, hold upside down over the model. The entire contents will drop on them and the sauce will be nice and runny and flow all over (and if you aim right, flow inside) their clothes.
I can see the point of using premium custard if it's going to be applied by hand and smeared and spread. But if you want to pour it, value is always the way to go.
plimmie said: The shortage of stock will be temporary, unless the panic buyers are panic eating it all too, in reality a lot of the extra food people have bought may end up being wasted if they don't need to use it, it will sit in cupboards and garages until it goes out of date unfortunately. Hope the lack of supplies doesn't affect posts too much, we might just need to turn to more Wet and less Messy for a while, besides you look great in a wet outfit Cinq
Lol, i really love the idea of people sat in their living rooms in the afternoons just 'panic eating' really quickly and then racing off back to the shop haha.
Cinq has a point. I think we should NOT waste HIGH PROTEIN items such as BEANS (and you shouldn't be using real meat, obviously, for the animals' health) on WAM, for awhile. But, super-high sugar stuff - frosting, chocolate syrup - that's ok to use, because, as pi_pfreek says: people really shouldn't be eating that stuff, anyway. Carbs are obviously MUCH less complex & therefore LESS expensive to grow than proteins.
Look at this as an opportunity for a challenge in material science resourcefulness.
Pieman said: No bean shortage here. Mostly just bread, milk and toilet paper. The bean aisle at Walmart yesterday was well stocked.
Beans on toast is probably the cheapest most nutritional meal people turn to here in the UK. Soup was also running very low. Today its milk, even baby formula because idiots have been buying it to put in their tea and coffee
I'm waiting for the first WAM producer to come up with some contrived scenario where hoarders go mad stuck at home, dress up in toilet roll and douse each other in tinned tomatoes and hand sanitizer gel!
MuddyOtter said: I'm waiting for the first WAM producer to come up with some contrived scenario where hoarders go mad stuck at home, dress up in toilet roll and douse each other in tinned tomatoes and hand sanitizer gel!
I know Candy's plugged them before but it seems no one has cleared out Approved Food who sell on stuff the supermarkets return but that is fine (rejections can be for minor damage to a box or two on a pallet - send the pallet back) https://www.approvedfood.co.uk/
I do wonder how many panic buyers are now discovering that ten loaves and 40 pints of milk have the same lifespan as 1 loaf and 4 pints...
Oh and on the pouring of canned commodities, give the can a good shake before opening, the beans all nestle up and the bottom of the can so a good shoogle means you get a better mix for pouring and don't end up with a load of beans stuck.
I don't wam with food, but I did just happen to bulk buy heinz beans a few week ago. But it was completely unrelated to WAM or the pandemic, it's just because the US don't seem do baked beans the right way, they put it in molasses instead of tomato sauce or something like that.
The thing that might affect all WAM might be the increased demand of cleaning products.
bluemangoop said: I don't wam with food, but I did just happen to bulk buy heinz beans a few week ago. But it was completely unrelated to WAM or the pandemic, it's just because the US don't seem do baked beans the right way, they put it in molasses instead of tomato sauce or something like that.
The thing that might affect all WAM might be the increased demand of cleaning products.
That explains why they are so sweet they looked like the real deal in the Dominican Republic then when I tasted them I had to split them ! The pizza was the same must be the tomato sauce.
i went through the store the other day with a cart full of cake batter thinking "thank god i can atleast get this" but then i go to the freezer section for cool whip? WIPED OUT!! COOL WHIP OF ALL THINGS? the stores are picked pretty friggin clean around here!!
and they are starting mandatory shut ins all around us so, it is indeed some scary stuff. we started prepping when we heard about it in china. we just had a feeling and i spent all my damn money to pay my taxes on supplies.
wonder how thats gonna work out!
stay safe everyone! be cautious and dont be a hero! if you feel bad, go to the doctor! love you all!! thinnking of you all during this time!
In the UK, the message is that if you feel bad the assumption is that you've got it so we're told NOT to GO to the doctor as we'd just be infecting loads of other people. This replaces the early information to call the NHS advice helpline (which wouldn't now be able to cope with the numbers involved) and they would tell us what to do. (I guess you would call your own doctor on the phone there. As far as I'm aware, you don't have a national service advisory helpline available.)
Over here, the message is that if you have a new persistent cough and/or a fever and you live on your own, you must self-quarantine for 7 days. If you live with anyone else in the house, the entire household must self-quarantine for 14 days (as this gives time after you stop being contagious to see whether anyone else has picked it up from you).
If you develop symptoms, the message here is to take paracetamol rather than anti-inflammatories (e.g. Ibuprofen) as there are conflicting reports about whether the latter can make the situation worse. If we reach the stage where breathing is rapid, shallow and painful then we have to call for an ambulance and then it's off to the hospital, with them in control, wearing hazmat suits, rather than us just turning up and walking in.