dems da breaks dear.

I'm honestly surprised at just how obsessive some of you are. I never would have imagined Mrs. Bee was quite that militant about pie crumbs.

Not to an OCD level, but yes, I am very neat and tidy. And I've been well aware for ages that this is a big part of why I have a wam fetish. It seems I'm in good company.

The L? Don't get me started. I. Can't. Even. The Red line, especially.

Hehe, I think I wrote a novel, too!!

Jayce? Sleep eating? Maybe you are not eating enough during the day? Just a thought!

Getting messy doesn't bother me at all, I'm not grossed out by it and I'm not particularly concerned about messing up my house - which is surprising given my OCD. I think this is a great question overall. I mean, maybe doing something that is the exact opposite has been helpful for those of us with legit OCD? Not sure but it's been fun!

Hey, I didn't mean to imply that my house is a pristine, sterile, Pinterest board looking type of place - it most certainly IS NOT. It is very much lived in. But I'd be lying if I didn't confess...I do wish it looked, at least a little, like one of those houses on Pinterest...always camera ready and decorated just SO...

Interesting about the other girls' dislikes. I don't have an issue with white substances, or other colors for that matter but cannot do peanut butter or savory - I think I would be ill from the smell(s). Kudos to you for being so fearless with your brand of WAM!

The cat hair, though? Gross. Omg, my cat is darned lucky that he's so freaking cute! Same for the tiny humans, lol! GROSS - they have to touch EVERYTHING, do they not??

Bee

Hey, what can I say?

I have to be comfortable when I sleep!! NO light, a cool room, fresh linens, eye mask, and NO damned graham cracker crust crumbs in the bed! Is that asking for too much?

Bee

Yeah..I'm a no "light" person too....and it MUST be cool as well. I believe Jayce said something about stalactites hanging from my ceiling. I think she was being overly dramatic. The crumbs would be bothersome but forgetting to clean the chocolate out of your ears and having it show up on your pillow is quite annoying.

I wouldn't say I have OCD, but I hate clutter. I recently decided to become a minimalist. This was a difficult decision as a lot of you have seen my old movie collection.

Bee, are you and/or Bigshipper pretty specifically attached to using graham cracker crusts? Because if you're not, I think you'll find that "regular" pie crusts (don't know what else to call them) create a LOT less crumb residue. You can buy the frozen ones pretty cheaply in multipacks, and if you're clever (and I KNOW you are), you can easily bake 10 of 'em at a time in a regular oven (and a round of baking only takes about 10-12 minutes with a preheated oven). Trust me on this -- I'm speaking from considerable experience here.

Yes, I try my hardest to not take it any where. I have all the parking apps and will gladly pay for parking rather than wait for a sometimes nasty train in the cold rain or heat. I also am a car guy so I actually enjoy driving.

I don't think Bee has a preference either way, but I have to say for me, I'm pretty tied to the look of graham cracker crusts (not to help this thread devolve into an "is it or isn't it a pie" discussion like the Great Tin Debates of '07).

I am OCD when it comes to a lot of things. When it comes to my cars, I keep them clean, waxed, vacuumed, and wiped down. I detail the engine bays, pedals, drivers foot-well, door jams, etc. I keep my living quarters free of clutter for the most part, but random mail and papers can be found on the counter. Usually I'm very neat and organized.

yeah i think i am consuming the calories i should be during the day in the middle of the night. lol

but in a horrible way. i dont typically wake up and eat a healthy ass avacado. i stumble to the kitchen (or so my roomate says) and grab the most unhealthy shit i can shove in my mouth. lol

as far as tiny humans? OH MY GOD. everytime i go to get on one of the poles (because yes as soon as you walk in my house i have two poles set up at all times, open kitchen and living room to teach and train) those greasy handed little fuckers have been swinging on them, i wanna barf. they dont aim for their bathroom (they have their own....i have one tiny human and somehow have become the neighborhood keeper of all children, thank you jason for feeding my human and 3 other peoples humans last night!)

i say "dont take food from the kitchen" im picking up pieces of fucking pepperoni in my humans room this morning. DEAR. GOD.

the trains? dude my little guy rode EVERY FUCKING COLOR back and forth as far as they would go everyday for a WEEK we stayed in lincoln park. he fucking LOVED IT. thats all he wanted to do and I wanted to shower in fire water afterwards. lol

I am finding this thread to be completely fascinating. Jayce asked just the right question and the results say a lot about this community.


Mrs Bee's crust crumb issue has been heartily seconded, and I concur. I know it's totally in my head, but i always have the feeling that any foreign material I sense in my sheets is pie residue related. The diff between Bee and me is that based on her pics there is quite a lot of pie in the bed during a session. Sure, she sometimes goes to the fireplace or the basement or the office or the kitchen or the bath (hmmmm...my argument may be falling apart here) but she sure has produced a lot of bedroom pics over the years!

My wife and I had one wam session in the bed years ago and now we exclusively get messy on a drop cloth or in the shower. How we manage to drag crumbs into bed is beyond me, but we manage to do so nonetheless. Sometimes what I think may be a deer tick that hitched a ride on me turns out to be pie crust, and vice versa. I much prefer pie to Lyme disease BTW.

I am not going to post pics, but I actually do live in one of those neat, clean modern houses you might see on Instagram or Pinterest, and I remodeled it myself. I have never been introspective about the link between my cleanliness/minimalism and my fetish, but this thread has prompted some reflection. I get totally wild when I'm wammin', and am never concerned with mess in the moment. I will clean pie off the ceiling later. I guess it adds to the excitement in the moment.

I and my girlfriend are both WAM positive, I for about 16 years, my gf, who's I introduced to WAM, about 3 years (she totally fall in love to it). We like mud especially, from head to toes covered in mud together and we even had pool at our home (for poridge, gunge and other stuff sessions). So, we love to be dirty.
But when it comes to clean around my home, my girlfriend says, that I'm totally clean ocd, because I must wash the dishes, before we leave home, or at evening, when we come to bed and when I see crumbs or hairs on floor, I must immediately clean it.
But I say her, that I like clean house with no dust or with dirty dishes in our sink because when I come home after work, I can feel like I'm at "home", not in "cowhouse", simply I am feeling better in clean house. But girlfriend is totally oposite to me, so she never mind about little dirt at floor or dirty dishes.

Have to say I'm rather not on the scale of OCD cleanliness, more ICbB cleanliness here - I Can't be Bothered... You know it's bad when you have a clean up to get messy...

I generally am messy but not dirty and occasionally I go on cleaning sprees and the I'm super OCD.

Up for a game of cow pasture bingo?

To be fair, I can smell pretty nasty within an hour of taking a shower if I'm doing any sort of physical labor.

But yeah, I'm a gross person, so no big surprise there.

I'm blessedly unaffected by any preoccupation with cleanliness, although I was diagnosed with OCD as a kid. (General information: Just like not all with Tourette Syndrome have a swearing tic, not all with OCD have an obsession or compulsion with cleanliness.) That said, I do like a certain amount of order, but like Jayce, I also love vintage stuff and books and have to keep after myself.

I'm grateful I don't have "clean OCD" or it would make my new job, and many of my past jobs, impossible. I run a dairy department and sling milk crates around all day, and after the "endless janitorial opportunities" that come with the job and yes, spilled milk, I rarely look all that presentable.

Edited to add: Anyone else read Marc Summers's book Everything in its Place? Although he took it like a champ, the poor guy was internally freaking out every time he got messy on the show, while at home he didn't even want to cook hotdogs on the stovetop because of the mess. Fortunately he got help and overcame his anxieties, and it's IMHO a great account of dealing with OCD that threatened his livelihood.

I'm not OCD but I keep things generally clean and organized, the only thing I make sure to stay on top of right away are dishes because leaving them out for a day or two is kinda nasty.

I tend to have lots of clutter, and lots of dust, but I'm puritanical about making sure nothing that could go off is left anywhere - no plates of unfinished food (anything not eaten gets flushed down the toilet), nothing that could rot or go mouldy or rancid. And I keep the kitchen surfaces and the bathroom clean and tidy.

I also don't like having messy hands, even when actually getting messy. Way back when I used to cycle down the coast to find mud locations to wallow in, I'd wear rubber gloves as part of my outfit. I'd be happy for my wellies to fill with mud or water, and I'd be wearing overalls or a boilersuit that I'd totally submerge in the mud, but I liked to keep my hands clean and dry. Nowadays I have the excuse when shooting that I need to keep hands clean to operate the cameras, but even if just getting messy for pleasure, I prefer to keep clean hands.

Jayce, everything in my house has a place and it needs to go back to its place once its done being used. I am someone who likes to make my wife take full coverage, especially her long, thick hair...fucking shampoo that slime and pie in deep.... But my house AND my yard? Those gotta be clean.

After wamming, even the insides of the mud buckets must be neat and tiedy. Yep, sounds like OCD.

Oh yes that's me, nothing like a bit of cleaning to stir the need to get messy....