Something I've noticed over the last couple of weeks is the group is becoming quite overloaded with similar/re-ocurring posts.
I'm not criticizing the images themselves, but wondering if there is a better way of organizing the group so important threads like prompt discussions aren't lost in the noise.

Would it not be better to reply to current threads with similar pics rather than say having 11 separate Tub in Park or 10 Splat the brat etc?
Perhaps standardizing threads for specific themes etc?

I've held off posting a lot as I don't want to clog up the group but at the same time, don't want to continue dropping a load of pics into a single thread either.

Interesting point. As for specific series like 'Tub in the Park' or some of the game show ones, yes, they could go into one thread.

So those not interested in certain themes could skip them, and look at threads they already like, to see the new additional posts and subsequent pages.

I think what may be at least partly responsible for the current situation is that a thread updated by a single person doesn't get bumped to the top, so there's always the temptation to create a new thread instead (or to post to the general AI content thread).

Thanks, I wasn't picking on you specifically, was just a quick observation as the group is getting more popular.
I've been trying to think of loose outline but can't really come up with an ideal.
Specific posts for users doesn't make sense as there could be mixed content that they want to show case.

Separate posts for similar content likewise doesn't make sense. Say I had 4 sets based on a similar prompt with different outfits or theme, I'd probably keep that to one post.

A master thread for prompting help makes sense as does a general thread for other queries. I wonder if we could get those stickied so not lost.

Agreed, I sort of flipped between posting to a single thread, to separate and back again to try and minimize posts but at the same time, doesn't feel right dropping 40 pics into a general post.

I guess an ideal would be to have themed threads where people can post similar style pics. i.e.
Gunge tanks
Pie fights
Outdoor Mud
Wetlook
Foodfights
etc.

Doesn't mean other posts can't be created for running themes such as Street Gungings, Tub in park etc but again they would ideally be master posts updated as they evolve.

I did initially uses to post on the same thread I already created to keep things tidy, but the problem is if you leave your post up for a day or two, then decide to a few additions do it, or a chapter 2 or whatever, the forum sticks a message at the bottom saying 'This post won't bump the thread to the top.' even though you've posted some brand new pictures.

Which makes me wonder if people are seeing these newly added photos, especially if like me you have your forums sorted by Born, rather than Last Post.

Personally my two penneth worth - I don't mind there being 10 or so of a particular topic. If you've got a batch of 50, then I'll post one thread, and then do two replies as we are limited to 18 photos per post, but if it's spread over several days, I can understand why people post it seperately.

Just a note, you can upload 40 images if you zip the images first and then upload the zip instead. The forum will unzip and post them individually.

My argument for single threads on a theme would be that lets say I'm generating variations of a similar prompt such as man/woman sensually messing each other, then a viewer would typically also want to see variations such as different dresses, poses etc. Having them in the same thread makes it easier to find and not require hopping between posts. It also keeps feedback and comments within the same context rather than splitting between 2 or threads.
I agree with your point about about posting to a thread that already has images or have had no replies so won't be bumped to top. Everyone likes to give their post prominence. That said, there were at least 30 threads this last month that were functional the same 4 prompt variations. The need to bump wouldn't be there if they were collapsed into 4 threads.

I'm posting a series that exists across a span of time.

There's a gap of a few days between posts, it's not like I'm spamming a post every couple of hours. And it's not just like I'm dumping the results of a single prompt that I kept refreshing one-handed. There's effort that's gone into the creation and curation of the images.

It's an attempt at creating a fictional TV show. Yes, it's repetitive, but that's the nature of a fetish. But it's also episodic, part of the way I want it to work is that a new post appears about twice a week. It just wouldn't work if it all had to go into one thread.

Personally I think 10 different forum threads is preferable to one thread with 20 pages of replies. Anyone is free to block my posts, or just skip the threads.

I'm not being critical of your content, I think you've nailed the particular niche creatively so no intention to block your posts but you've seemed to take it as a personal criticism which isn't intended
My observations were from a redundancy point of view. As I said, 30+ new threads/topics of the front page are 4 underlying core themes. That just buries other new posts and encourages new threads to bump.
No one is going to enforce any restrictions, it's a discussion point that's all.

One of the pluses to having them as separate threads is just an ease in finding the posts you haven't seen yet. I love the "a place to post ai content" thread but I always have to remember to which page I've read so far.
But honestly, I have to admit, I don't care either way, all of these images are amazing. Way to go to those of you who have learned these systems well enough to create such impressive images. Thanks for all your work!

I wasn't taking it as a personal attack so much as I wanted to state my personal case for separate threads. My work might fit into the category of 'gameshow wam' but it deserves its own space. I'd imagine most people wouldn't have a problem with ignoring it if they knew they didn't like it.

I've looked at tub in the park threads I thought I'd enjoy, and ignored ones I knew that I wouldn't, Separate threads by different substance works for me in this case.

To me more threads isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's a sign of a growing forum. And it's not yet so busy that stuff gets buried on page 2 quickly. There are 30+ threads on the first page, but they go back in time over 3 weeks.

I love that more people are starting their own 'series' threads (even if it means that someone beat me to it on one idea and that the Splat the Brat roadshow will look like a rip-off).

I wasn't suggesting to dump them into a general thread, rather a themed thread in this instance for Splat the brat and so on. I agree, unique themes belong in their own threads.
As an aside, I haven't decided what I'll do with my posts, it's as much guidance for myself.

My observation goes more into that direction that:

- much content is created in many new threads
- there are 3-4 threads that are excessively used for prompt share, tips, difficulties

So my suggestion would be to PIN those general threads. This way we could get all those fantastic creations (like in the non-ai-groups) but the long-term-important ones won't get lost.

As thematically matching, I tend to keep updating my original thread (with similar type of clothes), rather than setting up another new posts. I believe it stays more organized and uncluttered this way.
However, the slow shifting of the theme into oblivion is what I'm considering to be the only drawback, not being visible for new readers, apart from becoming marked by the blue splosh icon , which I assume is the only sign of the thread having been updated with new pictures.

I didn't realise zipping the pics increased the upload limit. I will give that a go.

I get what you're saying, and I guess, you can always ask the forum to sort by last post, and also you do get little 'splat' icons next to a thread if someone has updated it since you last visited it.

This forum is actually getting quite popular now, which is a good thing. There has been some great stuff posted on here. Long may it continue.

After having read all the newer comments, I think I will continue to post the remainder of the Tub in the Park series in separate threads, partially so as not to lose additions where people won't see them, and partially to keep them separated by substance for the reason quoted above. The series will end soon enough and I don't plan on creating any new series - just individual topics after that.

I've created the following posts to focus and collate questions and discussions. I've asked if we can make them stickied so they won't get lost. Hopefully will help new users as well rather than getting lost in random posts.

https://umd.net/groups/bingdesigner--general-discussion
https://umd.net/groups/bingdesigner--issues-and-technical-discu
https://umd.net/groups/bingdesigner--general-discussion

Thank you for taking the initiative!

I don't think these forums are set up for organization. That's not a hit on the site creators, it's just the way it is. The other sections of the forums are already separated by general topic, but this group is under the umbrella topic of "AI WAM" and includes everything from messy sex to playful wam to technical advice. If this group could be divided into categories like the main forum, that would make everything easier.

I think not being able to bump your own thread by posting new content actively discourages organization as well (but I understand why the restriction was put in place). I know that thread engagement drops off significantly after the first day or so even if the OP posts a whole new set of images, and that's discouraged me from reusing my own thread to post my images. But, as has been pointed out, there are many threads with very similar images that are pushing down the more unique stuff.

The majority of my images feature very similar attire (formal dresses and long gloves), although I have a wide variety of scenery and activities. Still, I'm reluctant to post them because of how quickly they get pushed down, but also because I don't want to push other people's stuff down.

At first I was going to suggest two AI forums, one for messy, one for wetlook, but then I noticed that there is a lot of 'crossover' AI, such as a recent post of formally dressed women in a fountain getting pied while wet.

Personally, I find the current system works fine for me. If I want skip a post I can, or if something new has been added, I have my preferences set that it will be at the top. It works for me.

Just looking back on this post.

My views haven't changed on being able to post a new thread if you want to, but it's crazy now how often people are posting follow up threads to their series.

A single post with lots of images is going to serve your audience better than many posts each with a few images

I agree, I'll be honest, it's the reason why I mostly stopped posting. It's chaotic and seems like there is a constant drive to be the new post. I don't see how's it's beneficial to the audience. I could play the same game but it's easier just not to post.

Got to agree with the above. When one poster makes 14 new threads in the space of 7 days, it kind of crowds out the whole group.

I'm also in agreement here. I think that just because it is easy to generate a couple of hundred images on a theme doesn't mean that it's a good plan to post them all split into 10 different posts. Seems a better plan to just pick the best few to make one post. If it is an evolving narrative then seems to make sense that those are replies on the same thread, rather than separate new posts for each part of it..

I don't post much here, im a lurker. But I absolutely agree with everyone here, if you look at the board currently, and look at all the threads from the past week, we have several threads made by the same users, most of which have 0 replies, sometimes people are posting 2 threads a DAY, which is just insane to me. I don't want to sound mean, but its spam, plain and simple, there is simply no reason to create two threads a day, on the same subject, when your first thread got 0 replies.

Its getting harder to browse the board, I'm mostly interested in seeing peoples techniques and ideas, and they sadly get lost in the spam. I dont know the vibe of the forums overall, but we might need to implement a rule regarding this, its just too much.

On a side note, I've come to realize AI wam has one slight issue: personal niches fetishes. I for one, love to see maids and office workers messy, with a gothic vibe. I can quite easily create thousands of images for using AI. However, not everyone is going to share my niches (as common as they are), so even though I think I've created something spectacular, that doesn't necessarily mean everyone else will. I think that ties in with the spam, you may think you've created the greatest collection of images known to wamkind, but its probably containing several of your own specific kinks, and as such, is much less impressive to the rest of the community, especially when we can use the same sites and apps to create images to our own specific tastes.

Sorry for the long post, I don't post super often so I wanted to get a few thoughts out.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I argued for separate threads for 'series' a few months ago, but I didn't realise it would end up like this.

When people are new to AI they want to show off what they've been able to make and I get that. When other people click the hearts and leave comments there's a dopamine hit and I get that. But creating a new post several times a day, when most users maybe log in once daily or less often, as you've said, it's basically spam. When those posts contain very repetitive images, it makes it worse.

As far as rules go, I believe there is no extra moderation to this group than exists on the site overall. As long as it doesn't go against the site's TOS it's allowed.

I don't think people should be discouraged from posting new threads if appropriate (and I would actually welcome more weird niche stuff), but I do think people should be encouraged to think about whether what they are posting is insightful, helpful, innovative, entertaining, or high quality - in other words, is it something that other people actually want to see? If you're creating a story with images, maybe it would be better to finish the story and then post the whole story in one go.

Yeah im sorry if my post came across mean, I don't want to discourage anyone from posting, and I think your last paragraph hit the nail on the head.

Slightly to the side of excessive posting. I wonder how well the format in general of a forum like this works. Once the creation process is largely democratised by AI then it would seem that a vertical board of posts like this is always just going to end up with repeated and repetitive posts and many that don't hit your niche. I wonder if a more social media style approach would work better. So users share their creations to their own profile and if people like the stuff then they can follow that user and see more of their stuff on their main feed. I know UMD has some of this but while the forums still sit as the main place people visit then the priority for creators will always be to get their content there and jostle for visibility.

While I like the idea of a social media-style approach, that would also severely limit individual users' exposure to the wider site. So much of the real-life WAM is locked behind paywalls as it is, and that's one of the reasons I've turned to AI: my personal likes are rather niche (formal dresses, WAM without the sex/nudity), so sellers that do that kind of stuff generally only do it as customs or quickly go out of business because it costs too much to produce for too small a market.

So, what I was saying about a social media-style approach severely limiting the exposure of individual users to the wider community: people like me would be would be adversely affected, people who only add friends that we actually talk to rather than sending friend requests to anyone and everyone just to have a big list of friends.

On top of that, it would probably require a major rework of the site's coding and would likely only appeal to a portion of the users.


We're a niche group inside a niche fetish that lumps together everything from wet T-shirts to hardcore porn in truly disgusting substances. If you look at the posts, even the really spectacular images generally have single-digit hearts, because we all have such differing tastes. If we're only allowed to post universally accepted fetishes, who's to decide which fetishes make the cut?

Honestly, I don't think it's hard to browse the board since I know which of the regular posters share my interests and I just skip by the ones who don't. Some of the regular posters vary their work, others stick to a single theme with slightly different backgrounds. If you look at the names of the posters, you'll quickly learn which threads will interest you and which ones won't.


I very much agree that stories should be written in a single thread. Episodic stories are a personal dislike of mine, because I forget what happened before and would have to go look for the previous threads. Stories that don't build off the previous episode and are instead self-contained short stories whose only link is a theme or a character are more of a gray area. Should they be posted in the same thread, or do they count as separate stories? Personally, I'd count them as the same story.

As far as waiting to finish the story before posting it, I only sorta support that. I love writing, but I get distracted easily and have tons of unfinished stories as a result. The ones that do get finished are the ones where I let other people read what I've written so far, because then they bug me to finish it so they can know how it ends. Dopamine hits are encouragement, especially for people like me who aren't very confident in their ability to entertain or impress others.

I think you've misinterpreted what I said, I never once even remotely implied niche posts shouldn't be *allowed*, that's insane!

Nobody is policing fetishes here, all I'm saying is that if your creating something specific to your kinks, it probably doesn't need 14 threads in 1 week. One thread is plenty!