Firstly, love this group! I'm wondering what's your favourite / most extreme mess you've used and how long it took to wash out? A few washes? Hours of washing and combing? Even longer?!

Easy or difficult to wash out?

It varies. There's also a big difference between something that's been poured over hair and 'worked in'. Also, the combinations and the order.

On average it's 20 to 30 minutes and 2-3 shampoo and rinse - but heavy soiling might require more. The most difficult substances tend to be excessively greasy or oily. These can leave residues and odours that takes days to disappear naturally and require a professional salon treatment for an instant fix.

Dairy cream is actually one of the worst (see my Trouso's Muse thread for examples and descriptions) after the shampoo in Luvverly and Gooey GD pretty much banned me from ever doing a full on shampoo again - although she's allowed a multitude of more extreme and heavier messes like PVA glue and artist's oil paint since.

Flour is a tricky one too.

Thanks for this. Really helpful. I'm a fan of the full 'worked in' shampoo. Wanted to try some other things but don't want to be washing my hair for hours on end and it to not be right for days after. I think I'll steer clear of cream, margarine etc. I'm guessing flour is more time consuming than anything? Is hair normal after it? Many thanks

Out of interest, did the glue come out easily?

Trouso warns against mixing oily substances and hair, well here is a lady who seems to thrive on it. Karen (AKA Wet Nylons) has done several sets involving oil, some in public places. some of these were taken on private premises and are available as sets from Thefinestmess.com through UMD.

It depends how hair is exposed to flour. With a lot of other stuff it's not so bad.

Same with glue. PVA glue is water based. It clumped in the slurry but, as long as it's not allowed to dry it washes away with everything else.

An associate of ours commissioned this set and I even have the video edited from it in my private archive. They're not available at the moment due to it not being certain who owns the right to do this.

Great set though and Mrs WN is certainly a great sport.

So I think a thick flour and water mix probably pushing it!

Add lots of oil

Really? Before, during or after?

Oil prevents the flour from coagulating. Oil in itself is far less troublesome than flour. Oil will disperse with plenty of hot water and mild detergent. You would be better off mixing a batter entirely with fat or oil or - what we often do - entirely coat the hair with fatty or oily stuff before you introduce flour. In GD's Deluged in Gifts scene I tipped 2 or 3 bags of flour and 9 litres of cooking oil over her head but her hair had mayo, grease paint and black treacle in it already. The same with Lily. In the white emulsion paint pics (which is water based) every hair on her head was coated in paint before she was 'floured'.

It's trial and error, but these are the principles. BTW apparently gluten free flour doesn't have this problem although I haven't tried it.

Thanks so much for this. Much appreciated!

^^^ THIS THIS THIS ^^^ Candy has done conclusive experiments on the differences between standard flour and gluten free on hair.

I know - kudos to Candy. But I'm going to keep using ordinary white flour because that's the kind of guy I am!

I would imagine that black axle grease used in the automotive industry would be the most difficult to wash off... what do you think?

I dare say. Actually, any black grease is just the worst.

Definitely don't fancy grease or anything like that. It's mostly food that interests me!

Idk who that couple is, but they're crazy! They've even used road tar...sometimes in the back of their suv.

Sometimes there is a thrill in being coated in something you can't get off like tar. It's known as a transformation and it can be a big turn-on for some.

Here's a guy in Russia jumping into a pool of used black motor oil... and you can see it's not coming off!

https://youtu.be/uBBPUYNiCbA

It's worth mentioning that WAMming (total coverage) with automotive grease and sump oil poses significant health risks - both short and long term (burning, respiratory arrest, suffocation, poisoning, cancer). Cleaning up is the least of your worries.

If you like the thought of that risk, then that's one thing...

But if you simply like the thought of grease being difficult-to-clean-off, then I can assure you there are other types of grease and oil around that look and feel the same (without the toxic fumes) and are just as stubborn and black but are a lot less harmful.

I think grease or similar a step too far for me! I think I'll stick with treacle or something similar. I don't mind the thought of a bit of effort to get it off but not being at it for hours. But that's just me!

That poor Russian guy must have lost a really big bet to do that
He's keeps saying "I can't see anything"

Ya, black paint and vaseline mixed together is probably going to get you the same effect. Note the Russkies, though: The guy *with*the*lit*cigarette* is the only one running after him. Given the likelihood of gasoline being present as well, I'd say they both got luckier than they realize.

Good old flour and water is always my go-to favourite, whether for myself or a messy victim. I know lots of people complain about it and even steer clear, but I've never yet had a session where it doesn't wash and comb out

I just don't think you can beat it for gooeyness, stickiness and appearance. And it's HEAVY - the feeling of a whole bucketful of flour and water dumped over your head is breathtaking...

You're not the first person to suggest this to me. I'll definitely try it. It sounds fab.

I've attached a few photos of a messy shampoo I've just tried. Treacle, frosting, jam and flour. Very sticky. Very thick. And very heavy. Washed out no problem. Result! More pics on my profile if anyone interested.

I can remember my wife being really unimpressed when I put margarine in her hair some years ago.

Margarine is one I definitely want to try. Did you use much and did it take long to get out?