I was lost in a post the other day and read something by a producer about never really buying any clips and it got me curious what the general feel is?

Do you browse and consume as regularly as some viewers? Or is there no need as you are creating content you've always got what you want/like to hand? Or by the time you've shot, cut, edited and everything else involved to put a clip out have you had enough that it's the last thing you want to look at?

Just curious to hear the thoughts on this, I can't imagine any producers do it because it's something they just fell into as a day job, I'd say they got into it through a love for wam and that's what keeps them creating.

Good question!

I do but voted minimal. I tend to only film the stuff I like personally so I have a giant collection because of that, but some things from others are just too good to miss and/or I appreciate the art and work that went into it and want to show support.

Pretty much this. I produce so many scenes that align with my personal tastes, that I have a very large collection. However, very occasionally, exactly as Candy writes, some things from others are just too good to miss and/or I appreciate the art and work that went into it and want to show support.

It's been largely dependent on biographical circumstances. I became known on here for working with a relationship partner. During those years I had very little interest in consuming other people's clips as everything was happening for real at home.

Once I started making content on a paid model basis (and, most recently, producing nothing at all!) I started becoming more interested in other producers' work again - and in a lot of cases appreciating it for more than merely its titillating aspects.

Producers who know each other often trade copies of their work, too.

*As a small timer I've always been very flattered to be called a 'producer'. It wasn't something I assumed for myself but a badge I was kindly given by one or two 'proper' producers who assured me that's what I was. Go back 10 years or more and when I first started sharing content many big professional producers were quite openly scathing about guys making films of their girlfriends and having the audacity to give themselves the title of 'producer'.

I voted minimal as I assume I buy rather less than the average consumer does, I tend to queue things up in my shopping cart and then make a big purchase every 6 to 12 months.

Obviously I have an enormous library of my own content, almost all of which does work for me, but sometimes I see a preview for something that someone else has done which just hits the spot, or is something we don't have the space or facilities to do here, like the Wetlook Parties with a couple of dozen girls going into a pool. Over the years I've been producing I've also bought from The Rev, Candy, EuroWAM, Chantelle, Jayce, Get Your Snaps, Allwam, and others, including some of those no longer with us.

Also if another producer puts out something I like as a consumer, I'll usually stick a comment into their thread, as I know how much it helps with publicity when people respond to my threads.

Regarding the "who is and isn't really a producer", I remember some years back when there still was a distinct difference between what was produced on consumer-grade equipment vs what was shot on high-end professional kit, and people talking about video cameras costing $10k or more. But the advent of smartphones that shoot in fairly competent 4k has rather leveled the field, and though there is still a difference between "shot with a phone" and "shot with a real camcorder", it's nothing like as huge, or even noticable to the average punter, as it once was, to the point that poor camera technique, like filming into the light, poor framing, or abruptly zooming mid-shot, will now be a much bigger factor in whether something is any good or not, than the equipment it was shot on.

The relevance of my opinion is questionable because at this point I'm still making enough content to be able to open a proper store with. My audience at this point is still in the single digits but their feedback has been priceless.

Like others I make what I like so I don't have to go far to find more of it, and I get a lot of inspiration and motivation from others in the non-nude / pies and cake batter category. That's where the whole content from others comes in. I have to give them all the credit for helping me to refine materials used and technique, I think of it as learning from the best.

Hard agree about the zooming. So many people with years of experience still do it when they should know better.

Yep. The two best ways to ruin what would otherwise be a great video: 1) abrupt zooming mid-shot, 2) videographers so obsessed with keeping the model's head in frame that they manage to miss all the actual action shots.

While it is possible for a skilled operator to get away with zooming very gently (which is much harder than it looks to do), sudden zooming really throws the viewer out of the scene. Even worse, I've seen scenes where the operator already had a perfect view, say head-to-knees, of a seated model getting gunged, meaning the audience could chose which bit they wanted to watch and enjoy - and then for no reason at all mid-scene the camera suddenly zooms in on the model's head and chest, totally cutting off the view of her lap and legs, ruining it for anyone who had been enjoying the legs getting messy.

And then there was the scene I bought where a model really did give it her all totally threw herself into what she was doing, but the video person is so obsessed with keeping her head in shot they managed to miss Every. Single. One. Of the points where the model's clean body and outfit actually made first contact with the gloop. TBH anyone can miss one or two shots - in the first ever Rob Blaie video I bought there's a scene where a model in tight jeans sat down in the mud and the videographer missed it because he was shooting a headshot and didn't notice she was lowering herself into the mud. But in the video in question, *every* "getting messy" shot is missed. Which leaves me with a quandry - do I leave the kind of review that leaves a smoking crater in its wake, to warn others against buying it, but which will look like I'm attacking a fellow producer, or do I leave it and try not to think of all the other people who'll be disappointed when they buy it?

20-20 hindsight says I should have created an anonymous second account years ago and used that for purchases, but I didn't, and time machines are sadly lacking, else I'd go back to the actual shoot and try to re-educate the camera operator before it starts. Which is probably some kind of time-rule-breaking paradox or something.

As others have said we kinda produce what we like so not usually a need to buy other material in any great quantity. There are always the odd clip you really want to see though so yes to the occasional other film.