I am having a lot of trouble getting a pied woman out of Bing. There are a ton of great examples on the forum here and wondering how everyone does it.
The prompts are generating "content warnings" not dogs... the kind of warning that if you get too many you become suspended.
The phrase "pie in the face" seems to just anger Bing. I asked ChatGPT why and it said the following:
"The prompt "a woman gets a pie in the face" might trigger a content violation warning in Bing Image Designer because it involves a potentially messy or violent act that could be considered inappropriate or offensive to some users. Bing Image Designer, like many content creation tools, aims to provide a safe and inclusive environment for users to create visual content without encountering imagery that may be deemed explicit, violent, or offensive.
The phrase "pie in the face" typically refers to a comedic or slapstick act where someone throws a pie at another person's face. While it's often portrayed in a humorous context, it can still be interpreted as a form of physical prank or humiliation, which may not align with the content policies of certain platforms.
To avoid triggering content violations, it's important to use language and imagery that are respectful, inclusive, and appropriate for a wide audience. If you're using Bing Image Designer or similar tools, consider framing your prompts in a way that focuses on positive or neutral scenarios rather than potentially controversial or objectionable actions. This can help ensure that your content remains in compliance with usage policies and is suitable for all users."
I asked it to generate some alternative prompts and Bing still gave me a content warning. So I have to stop before I get suspended.
Basically you need a few things for the pie prompt to work:
- a positive, humorous or playful mood. You can achieve that easily by using words like victorious (for a character), defining the scene as bright or festive or just adding other people laughing; - the act of pieing must not be correlated with something mean or humiliating. So avoid words like humiliated, punishment, batsu, mean etc. You can still use those sparingly and see how it impacts your prompt; - pie is a very generic word that will not work very well in an AI model for reasons that are really interesting but would take a long time to explain. Instead I'd recommend being more descriptive about specific cakes or pastries. Pancake, crepe, pavlova etc. - finally, getting the right impact and hand position is mostly luck dépendant. You can describe the impact in different ways ranging from applies to wet slaps. Whatever you choose you won't get the right configuration all the time and you'll need to keep trying to get the proper result.
So a standard, ultra safe prompt would be:
sitcom still, pie fight key scene, 2020, dandelion floral style, style of rumiko takahashi, a woman (young, emerald shiny designer dress, victorious), leans in to hand crush a pancake filled with sloppy cream on another woman's face, in the context of a large and chaotic pie fight between guests of an exclusive dinner. close-up and detailing of the pie impact, bright and luxurious ballroom, festive, refined, other guests watching amused, high detail, Sigma 85 mm f/1.4
Good tips, yes bing does hate pies but keep going, don't give up, find the word combinations it likes. Honestly the biggest problem I have is pies the wrong way round (filling then plate) but you can get there in the end.
I've had some success with this. Just keep trying different wording. The problem is the actual pie, not the mess. Bing feels that a pie hitting a face is an act of violence. They are OK with the messy aftermath, or a pile of whipped cream hitting a face, but not the pie itself in most cases. When a celebrity gets pied by a random person in a crowd, that person always gets charged with assault. So Bing sees it much differently than we do.
Bobographer said: I've had some success with this. Just keep trying different wording. The problem is the actual pie, not the mess. Bing feels that a pie hitting a face is an act of violence. They are OK with the messy aftermath, or a pile of whipped cream hitting a face, but not the pie itself in most cases. When a celebrity gets pied by a random person in a crowd, that person always gets charged with assault. So Bing sees it much differently than we do.
Also adding to my previous post, if you want to get a post-pie image the difficult part is to avoid the large clump obscuring face effect, so that you can still see a bit of the face under the mess.
What works best for me is to describe how the character looks instead of focusing on the pie itself: creamy snowman, pile of mess, etc.
You can also make the face mess more realistic by interacting with it, for example by wiping the mess or equivalent.
It's a matter of preference of course as some may prefer more heavy coverage.
Found out that you can really improve the pie scenes by using Brazilian telenovelas as a setting instead of sitcom.
Using this and dramatic acting you can replicate the vibe of classic scenes.
Also hope I'm not hijacking the thread, if that's a problem let me know and I'll make a new one. I'm writing a global guide on how to make pie images so I wanted to finish it before making a new thread.
Prompt example:
Brazilian telenovelas, dramatic angle, pie fight scene, floral style, a woman (young, emerald latex dress, victorious), leans in to smash from above a pancake filled with sloppy cream on another girl's face, in the context of a large and chaotic pie fight between guests of an exclusive dinner. close-up and detailing of the pie impact, bright and luxurious ballroom, festive, refined, other guests watching amused, high detail, Sigma 85 mm f/1.4