I am sure this question has been asked previously, however I do not hang on every thread.
Are there women out there who actually crave's or desires a pie in the face before they were introduced to it by someone else?
In my experiences with pieing women, once I introduced the idea they have enjoyed it. None of them however thought about the idea before I brought it up to them.
Are there any natural born women who desire a pie in the face?
Thought......comments.......thanks!

What is the record for views without a reply? Is this one getting close?
I know some umd guru has to be a statistical analysis and knows the answer ,

I've talked with a couple, yes.

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I don't know what else to contribute to this thread.

Thanks Nein!
Canada and Europe seem to be way ahead of the U.S. regarding wam!

Interesting topic. I revently contacted a girl who just added her profile to a local model-page. Judging from her profile she seemed to be open for BDSM so I straight forward asked her if she was interested in getting to know another fetish.

We met for a coffe two weeks ago and I gave her an basic introduction to the WAM fetish - and no I didn't dum anything or pied her while we were having our coffee - but explained her the various aspects of our kink.

During our chat while I was showing her some photos from one of my pie shoots, she said, oh wow, that's something I allways wanted to do. She told me about a friend of hers getting slightly messy during a birthday skit, and how she allway wanted to be on the receiving end of having a pie shoved in her face. So I would assume yes, there for sure are some women out there who have this desire

Btw expect a shoot with said girl soon

Hi Michigan Dude,
A great post, I'm surprised it hasn't got more responses.
I approached a local model on fetlife many years back who wanted some modelling work and asked her re a pie shoot.
She found it extremely funny and also said it would be amazing to be get pied in the face. She filmed a few scenes for me and her partner did all the pieing. They both said to me when I picked up the footage how much fun they'd had whilst filming.

B I N G O. You nailed it.

Well, I dunno. You do see a few youtube channels with guys who are clearly into pies in their face. That one guy who does the One Man Game Show (and always seems to lose...) comes to mind.

Can't think of any girls who do that on a regular basis, though. Although I'm sure there are several who would do it once out of curiosity and laugh about it.

Craving it?

No, sorry.

...then there's Sara Shahi...for whom being pied is not just a matter of a "fun" or funny experience.

I have known two women who fantasized about being pied or messed up with food (usually creamy, sweet foods)...the first grew up watching Nick shows and confessed to me once (as a waitress in a restaurant that served cream pies with lots of cream on top) that pieing someone (or being pied) was "all that she could think about" whenever someone ordered a slice of pie (the pies were brought out on a cart and slices were served from the cart to the customer at the table)...her confession seemed to me more an obsession...and I figured out from other clues that she was a wam enthusiast..

The second was a woman I met on-line (and only exchanged emails with) who complained how difficult it was to convince her (then) husband to hit her with cream pies while he was f**king her...I am not sure if she was "introduced" to the fetish, or, if it developed naturally as part of her sexual psychology (I suspect the latter, as she never mentioned being "introduced" to the fetish by a boyfriend)...

So, yes, of course there are females who enjoy being pied for reasons other than having fun...they tend not to hang out on forums like this, and tend to discuss such things with people they [corrected] feel close to or intimate with.

It's been my experience that almost any woman is into it as long as they're having fun. The people that don't want to throw (or be hit) with a pie are the rare ones. The "trick" is that you can't be a nut. Of course that applies for about anything.

My biggest regret is that I didn't realize this when I was much younger!

I think we ought to consider that there may be many females out there who are interested in it and even know that WAM is a 'thing' not just a weird thing only they have, but might be put off by the prospect of unwanted sexual advances. This is the internet after all. Sadly plenty of women get sent dick pics or similar even when vanilla dating is involved, so you can understand why they might not be keen to start advertising themselves to randomers on the internet. Yes, we're (mainly) all honest and want to give good representation here but that's sort of something we have to prove first.

Although I've had an, ahem, unusually strong response to women getting messy and/or pied since I was in grammar school, I always sort of assumed I was the only person who liked mess that much... Until college, when I girl I was dating shared her secret desire to be pied during sex. She was utterly amazed that instead of giving her a funny look, as previous boyfriends did, I suggested that we go to the store immediately and buy as many pies as we could afford. That was a very happy evening.

Sadly, the relationship had other problems so I didn't marry her and live happily ever after.

Based on my experience, since then, though, many women who grew up with some combination of Sesame Street, Electric Company and the various Nickelodeon shows are intensely curious about getting pied and slimed. And of those women, I'd say at least one in ten is actively turned on by the idea, although she may not admit it.

I've met several women who are natural pie-face-fetishists. They came to the kink the way many of us did: getting the fetish-awakening through watching film and TV, seeing someone get pied, etc., and not via a bf who got them into it.

Female pie in the face fetishists definitely exist.

I have met a few women in real life that have been interested in being pied. Of those, it was only sexual for 2 of them; the rest just wanted to do it for fun. And while on this thread, I would love to quote a statistic from Jesse Bering's book Perv, but I am too lazy to go look it up at the moment. The point of it was that men are much more likely to have a fetish than women.

-JD

Thanks for all the great replies!
Notice one thing that is missing though........
A reply from a women.

This is what I love to hear, someone who jumps right in because it's so fun.

Thanks JJ.........a female perspective is greatly appreciated! All your pic's are fantastic. Glad you found this place!
P.S....you are gorgeous with and without mess!

[name removed],
Your video's are sublime; it is obvious you enjoy the humiliation!
I have admired your vid's for some time now!
Thanks for adding to the conversation, your words are valued!!

I am a big fan of what you and "Puddin" have done because it is so fun and imaginative, with costumes and elaborate set-ups and so forth.

But I think what really makes your gags special is how much fun you have with it, [name removed]. You've got terrific comedic instincts and timing. As a viewer, when I see your character ham it up with mock humiliation and anger after the tables turn and she gets it, it just makes her seem all the more empowered... and all the more hilarious.

I've had multiple online chats with probably 7 or 8 female wammers who specifically liked getting pied (usually among other messy fates), beyond the brave few who post or have posted at the UMD. Most of these women only lurked on the UMD (for all the obvious reasons), but tended to actually participate at the WAMChat chatroom, which ran for years and years but finally went defunct something like a year and a half ago. (I know there are those who disbelieve there are so many true female wammers out there -- who think that these are all or mostly men posing as women -- but I've talked to a number of those too, and the differences start to show up fairly quickly.)

Of the true female wammers I've known, the origins of their interest have varied quite a bit.

1. Several of them developed the bug the same way most of us did -- by seeing people get pied and slimed on TV in our youth. I believe UMD member Kittenish says this is how her own interest developed. I wish she'd speak up in this thread, her articulate voice could really add a lot to this discussion.

2. Several more were introduced to the pie fetish by previous boyfriends, but liked it so much they continued doing it on their own afterward. A now famous example of this phenomenon is Maria, aka MyPieRogative, a beautiful WAM soul if ever there was one.*

3. A few other women found out they liked getting pied more than they ever could have imagined when they were spontaneously pied or caked as a prank by a (non-wammer) boyfriend or in a larger scale food fight with friends.

4. One young woman developed her interest (years before we met online) when she was in late high school and a male friend told her and a few of her female friends that he'd just discovered a new fetish online -- getting pied in the face. As she saw it, anyway, he clearly thought this was ridiculous, but had some goofy fun with the idea, joking about how sexy all these girls he was talking to would look with pies in their faces. The subject never came up again from the guy or any of the other girls, but a slapstick seed was planted within this young woman's mind. After she'd gestated on it a little while, she decided she had to try it. So she surreptitiously bought a pie, snuck it into the bathroom, pied herself in the shower, and found that it really was a very sexy experience after all. She went on to become a true blue wammer.


*Lisa Moomin recently raved about how Maria's whole expression would be aglow and her eyes totally lit up right before she was about to get pied, while "everbody else I ever pie bloody hates it." (That last bit was kind of disappointing to me. It sure seems like some of the Moomin models at least kind of enjoy being pied -- Mia in particular -- but I guess not!)

Mmmmmmm pie in the face.... fuck yes. So fun and kinky! There's nothing else like it!

Courtesy reminder to all of us guys out there: we've been fortunate to have a lot of female UMDers contribute to this thread, but that is NOT an open invitation to contact them and tell them about how you'd like to pie them, or to describe your own pie-related fantasies to them in great (and unsolicited) detail.

Of course, we all know that, right? None of us would consider doing that. There was no reason for me to post this message. I just like the sound of my own voice. Everything is fine. Move along. Nothing to see here.

* Regis excepted, of course!

It sounds like she definitely loves pies in the face.

The OP said in regard to the women:
'None of them however thought about the idea before I brought it up to them'
I haven't really seen anything different written in this thread even by the women.
Once they are introduced to WAM they like it or choose it as a way to earn money or indulge in some fun.
The question was is there a 'women who craves or likes a pie in the face' as in they had a fetish about it like most of us guys on here did from an early age.
I haven't seen much evidence of that.

I can say in 11 years of doing with loads of different producers and models I've NEVER encountered a female with a genuine craving or liking for a pie in the face that has been there as a genuine fetish from early days that turns them on sexually.
There are deffo girls who once they have been told about it who give it a go and think it's funny and then they may indulge a partner's fetish and/or show willing but that is different to the guy being really turned off by the thought of a girl getting pied.
For me I've said before it's not sexual to be pied.
I like it though for different reasons.
I don't think I could imagine life without some pies in it.
I think the proof is in the custard pudding.
How many girls dating from the Splosh days of the 80's to the present day can you name who still have pies as part of their individual private lives.
I can't think of one.
I can't even think of one who posts on here about their 'fetish'.
There's a big difference between a fun modelling assignment and an actual craving for something sexual!
It's also a living for some girls,myself included so the actual act of getting pied when it's for work is sometimes different because you are trying to get it right for a customer.
A surprise pie is a moment's exhileration and a comedy moment.
It might lead to something sexual if that's what you as a couple like.
Then I think there are perhaps a couple of girls who since being introduced to WAM do enjoy it sexually but I'm pretty sure it wasn't until they were introduced to it that it became so.
I also think it's a trait of many guys that they really really want to find that elusive girl that likes what they like.
I think the best one can hope is a girl who wants to please you and see's it as a bit of fun.
The danger there is you need to balance the WAM with romantic love making or the girl thinks the guy is in love with the fetish and not them!
I'm very lucky to have found a balanced guy at last!.
Hope that gives a very honest insight of things from my perspective!
Jessie

Per Jessica25's post: see my earlier post (2 girls for whom a pie in the face was more than just a fun experience [an obsession, and, a sexual fetish, respectively] and who were NOT "introduced" to it by a friend or lover).

Fetishism is rare in females, but not non-existent...and all people possess the capacity for "associative arousal" (my term for sexual self-stimulatory learning).

Appreciate all the great replies! It's been great reading all the different perspectives.
Just love this WAM community!!

Well... I guess it's time I don't lurk anymore and finally speak up and say something because I'm so tired of seeing people debate this over and over again . So I am a 25 year old woman who has had this fetish since childhood. This is the story: so just like many of you, I watched a lot of What Would You Do, Double Dare, Slimetime Live, etc type shows (Bugsy Malone was my favorite movie bc of the huge pie fight scene at the end - anyone else??). I always liked watching these shows like other kids my age, but my upper inner thighs would ache and feel like they were pulsating while watching others get messy, but I didn't quite understand why. I didn't ask anyone about it, but just knew it always happened whenever I watched people get messy and I also knew I never missed an episode. I also fantasized a lot about getting messy, but never acted on it. It was my little secret.

Fast forward to when I was 15 and got a desktop computer in my bedroom. My hormones were raging, I was watching YouTube videos, and thought to look up some of the old 90s Messy Nickelodeon shows. I found a few clips, was *very* interested in what I was watching, then found the magic that was a PieFight Girls video which resulted in me masturbating for the first time and achieving my first orgasm. After that, I was hooked. I scoured the internet for everything WAM related that I could. From age 15 until 25, WAM has consistently been at the forefront of my sexual fantasies. I never watch or get off to regular porn. It's always WAM related. I get messy on my own and I do crave getting messy - my favorites are chocolate syrup, cool whip pies (no crust!! I hate that it takes away the smoothness of the cream and makes it all gritty, which doesn't feel nice when rubbing it over my body), and cake batter slime (My Secret Tip: add vanilla extract to the batter so it tastes better when it gets in your mouth - cause we all know it always does!)). There are often times when I watch WAM content and then get inspired to have my own session. I keep all of my favorites in my house so that way if I want to smash a pie in my face while I climax, I can. There are plenty of times I choose not to get messy, but to say that no woman has ever craved to be pied would be gravely incorrect.

I'm sure I'm not alone in being a woman and having this fetish since childhood. I just don't think many women speak about their fetishes. Most of my lady friends all have fetishes, ranging from threesomes to cutting and blood play. You would never guess it from their appearances, but that's because female sexuality is so repressed. Women don't like speaking up about what they are into for fear of shame. Men are similar in this way, but what separates the two groups is slut-shaming and unwanted advances/propositions. I think the kink/slut-shaming is fairly self explanatory, but the unwanted advances/propositions is a part that I think some of you struggle with on this website - hence why women like me lurk in the shadows.

I used to have a more public account. I had a picture of me when messy, a feminine username to show that I identify as female, and a short bio. 98% of the interactions I have had with people messaging me have been positive. Truly. For being the internet in 2017 (and *especially* on a fetish site), I am impressed with how polite folks can be... But there are the guys who would routinely message me asking to skype or kik or a guy who sent me an unwanted message about how hard he was planning on fucking me. When I used to log on, I would have tons of messages asking to talk- which is FINE, but let's be frank - when you're feeling excited and are ready to have some alone time - do you really want people all in your inbox trying to talk? I tried responding to people, but there were just so many messages and then people strted to get sad that I stopped responding and it was just too much. I stopped logging on because I didn't want to have to keep getting messages. My daytime job is out in the public and talking to people all day, when I come home at night, I just want to be left alone, be nobody and lurk. Hence why I changed my name to username. Most people don't recognize that I'm a girl and I really don't get messages much anymore. It's been awesome.

So the TL;DR of this all is: I log onto this website for the same reason you all do - to watch and support WAM content and to feel some pleasant warm tingling sensations. Just because I'm not writing on the message board or posting content, doesn't mean I don't exist. I feel confident in saying that I'm not the only unicorn (as I've heard women like me be affectionately referred) on this website. I don't personally know of others, but that doesn't mean we're not here and/or out in the world. There are other reasons for why we choose to stay invisible.

PS - Please don't be weird about how I described my sexual thoughts and behaviors as a child. You asked for my experience so I shared it. Please respect that I shared those details for that reason.

PPS - Please don't message me in response to me outing myself as a woman on this board. Respond in the message thread and I'm happy to read and reply to your response, but I will not be responding to private messages about it. Sry not sry.

How do you respond to this great post by username other than saying thank you!