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"2 Things I Have Learned About Non WAM women."
Love you, too
As I have been writing and posting my WAM encounters the past few months, one pattern that has emerged in almost all my experiences with non WAM women is that they all have been quite picky and insistent on being dressed "properly." This means hair done, make up done, proper clothes, jewelry etc. Much as if they were actually WERE going out on a date, to a wedding, whatever.
And the second thing?
Their complete, total willingness to trash what they are wearing.
Not being a therapist (even though I play one on the UMD) I honestly can't think of any reason why both of the above are true but they have been really consistent over a long period of time.
Robby
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And the second thing?
Their complete, total willingness to trash what they are wearing.
Not being a therapist (even though I play one on the UMD) I honestly can't think of any reason why both of the above are true but they have been really consistent over a long period of time.
Robby
www.wammalamapie.com
www.shepiestheguy.com
https://wammerific.umd.net/
Maybe being dressed to the teeth is a costume, so getting messy is just a role?
ed1 said: I would concur in my experiences as well. Not sure on the reason, but spot on with the observation in my opinion. Perhaps if they are going to give it a try, the fancier the attire, hair make-up etc... the more naughty it seems???
Ya know, while I personally prefer the fancier..etc., I have played with 2 or 3 who wanted something different than fancy.;...and yet it still had to be "right". A model friend of mine never understood the full dress up thing, but she did suggest something else which she thought she would enjoy. It wasn't fancy but it was what I would call a typical "model" outfit.
Nice white pants and high heels boots, belt, nice blouse and a short leather jacket. That's what she wanted to "play" in.
It's actually a rather funny story because I still talk to her quite a bit online and she reminds me that she didn't think SHE was going to get messy that first time which was news to me. I have played with women who never got messy themselves, but as I recollected she knew she was going to get at least one pie in the face. As it turned out she might have been right because when we first played and she got that first pie in the face and it went all over her jacket, she was less than thrilled. But then I remember her giving a little laugh and doing the "oh yeah?" thing...and off we went...so to speak.
She also sent me the dry cleaning bill.
You know TWO women?? What's that like?? :-p
So a few years back I got quite far down the road on sorting a hook up with a girl who wasn't a wammer but immediately went for the idea. When I said "better get some tarps to cover the floor" she immediately said "fuck that, we're trashing my best bed sheets"
You may be on to something here
You may be on to something here
My wife is the same way.
Gotta love that!
Gotta love that!
I'm very fussy about the possibility of ruining my clothes oddly enough (unless they were cheap and purchased strictly for destruction).
I once jokingly suggested to some of my friends that we should have a pie fight (they all know about my kink, nothing shady here). One of my friends was totally into the idea, and she wanted to dress in full roaring 20s attire. Never happened sadly haha.
I once jokingly suggested to some of my friends that we should have a pie fight (they all know about my kink, nothing shady here). One of my friends was totally into the idea, and she wanted to dress in full roaring 20s attire. Never happened sadly haha.
RobbyWLP said: they all have been quite picky and insistent on being dressed "properly." This means hair done, make up done, proper clothes, jewelry etc. Much as if they were actually WERE going out on a date, to a wedding, whatever.
And the second thing?
Their complete, total willingness to trash what they are wearing.
And the second thing?
Their complete, total willingness to trash what they are wearing.
I am confused by these 2 contradictory statements. Just being honest. Not snarky.
Under what condition are you referring to non-wamyns getting dressed up fancy?
All the time or for special occasions?
Not being a therapist (even though I play one on the UMD)
Well, that's because Messmaster never issued you a license.
Hurry up and earn your license already!
Zoidbergs Evil Twin said:
I am confused by these 2 contradictory statements. Just being honest. Not snarky.
Under what condition are you referring to non-wamyns getting dressed up fancy?
All the time or for special occasions?
RobbyWLP said: they all have been quite picky and insistent on being dressed "properly." This means hair done, make up done, proper clothes, jewelry etc. Much as if they were actually WERE going out on a date, to a wedding, whatever.
And the second thing?
Their complete, total willingness to trash what they are wearing.
And the second thing?
Their complete, total willingness to trash what they are wearing.
I am confused by these 2 contradictory statements. Just being honest. Not snarky.
Under what condition are you referring to non-wamyns getting dressed up fancy?
All the time or for special occasions?
Ok, first..."non-wamyns" is a great name.
As to the question, not quite sure what you see as contradictory.
What I mean is that one might think that to do anything messy they would want to wear something old, etc. But what I always heard was "well, if we're going to do it, let's do it right."
And SOMETIMES it became downright ridiculous as in
"Hey, I'm coming to NYC for a few days. Wanna do dinner? Cool, great. Wanna do dessert?
ARR AARRR...and they would respond "Yes, but I may have to go out shopping to find something to wear.": Shopping? For pie play? "Yes, has to be special."
Well, ok then.
It did remind me of when we shot Miche's WLP vids....and we were in a Nordstom's Rack looking for discount stuff (pre Ebay) and Miche, Ali and Chele are having these loud discussions about what to wear like they WERE going to a wedding. Of course for "Pie Club" they ended up using their own clothes anyway.
Miche: (loudly across the store holding up an outfit) Do you think this will look good with banana cream?
Ali: (loudly back across the store) And chocolate cream too.
Funny ladies they are.
I really have no idea what in the name of Ernest P Worrell this thread is talking about.
Oh Janet! You look so funny!!!
I have enjoyed reading your stories and have been missing them. I was wondering if you would be willing to add something. I remember there were some stories from people on here that would write from their point of view and from their partners. Any chance any of your ladies would be willing to do that?
I completely agree 
Just after Steve locks in me in the bedroom and says 'get dressed', I put on my makeup and try to make myself look pretty. 36hrs later, I have usually achieved some kind of look that is acceptable.
I load myself onto the 'inspection plinth' and assuming I pass, I am then bound up for transport to the wamming area.
Upon arrival in the destruction zone, I am probed extensively and I squeal with happiness, even though I am pretty sure my ass should not be full of baked beans.
I do this stuff because Steve likes it. That is why I did it in the first place (apparently it's called love or some shit?), but we have now reached point where I appear to enjoy it even more than he does.
Anyway, back to my chores master
Tara xx
Just after Steve locks in me in the bedroom and says 'get dressed', I put on my makeup and try to make myself look pretty. 36hrs later, I have usually achieved some kind of look that is acceptable.
I load myself onto the 'inspection plinth' and assuming I pass, I am then bound up for transport to the wamming area.
Upon arrival in the destruction zone, I am probed extensively and I squeal with happiness, even though I am pretty sure my ass should not be full of baked beans.
I do this stuff because Steve likes it. That is why I did it in the first place (apparently it's called love or some shit?), but we have now reached point where I appear to enjoy it even more than he does.
Anyway, back to my chores master
Tara xx
I'm in a relationship with a girl who will wear whatever (usually swimsuits, bikinis, panties, t-shirts, lingerie, nothing too fancy) and do whatever substance I suggest but when we have done wam, she insists on not getting her hair messed up (?) even though I tell it washes out but still she doesn't her hair trashed. Seeing a girl's hair destroyed is a big turn on for me.
On the other hand, I've been in relationships where the girl would be willing to do pretty much everything I want or wanted to do:
https://umd.net/stories/i/another-girlfriend-from-the-pa/return/%2Fprofile%2Fi%2Fchucksm%2Fsection%2Fblogs%2F
I guess I found that even though people are different when it comes to wam, it depends how far they are willing really go with their partner...simple thought but hopefully logical.
On the other hand, I've been in relationships where the girl would be willing to do pretty much everything I want or wanted to do:
https://umd.net/stories/i/another-girlfriend-from-the-pa/return/%2Fprofile%2Fi%2Fchucksm%2Fsection%2Fblogs%2F
I guess I found that even though people are different when it comes to wam, it depends how far they are willing really go with their partner...simple thought but hopefully logical.
dalamar666 said: I have enjoyed reading your stories and have been missing them. I was wondering if you would be willing to add something. I remember there were some stories from people on here that would write from their point of view and from their partners. Any chance any of your ladies would be willing to do that?
I can certainly ask. But writing in general for most people is difficult. Writing about sexual, personal things I would imagine would make it even tougher for most.
Although I can think of at least one woman who might actually enjoy it. I shall ask.
parklife said: I'm very fussy about the possibility of ruining my clothes oddly enough (unless they were cheap and purchased strictly for destruction).
I once jokingly suggested to some of my friends that we should have a pie fight (they all know about my kink, nothing shady here). One of my friends was totally into the idea, and she wanted to dress in full roaring 20s attire. Never happened sadly haha.
I once jokingly suggested to some of my friends that we should have a pie fight (they all know about my kink, nothing shady here). One of my friends was totally into the idea, and she wanted to dress in full roaring 20s attire. Never happened sadly haha.
That's totally someone who wanted to play Tallulah in Bugsy Malone
Your all purpose WAM dominant!
StickyTits2021 said:
Upon arrival in the destruction zone, I am probed extensively and I squeal with happiness, even though I am pretty sure my ass should not be full of baked beans.
Tara xx
Upon arrival in the destruction zone, I am probed extensively and I squeal with happiness, even though I am pretty sure my ass should not be full of baked beans.
Tara xx
Now I'm thinking about a certain South Park episode...
He's more potato now than man. Twisted and evil.
Now I'm thinking about a certain South Park episode...
Are you saying I look like Cartman?
Well, I will never bare my breasts in anger again (.)(.) Tara xx
WildThang said: My wife is the same way.
Gotta love that!
Gotta love that!
How much more cool Kate could get not.. sure but she's in the wam stratosphere
Paint with play and surrender
sorry i didnt have a second or my add didnt allow me to read anything but im commenting. something i noticed either when a. bringing in a complete wam virgin or b. talking to someone who isnt into wam or has never done it?
they have the best ideas! sometimes its like "ohhhh thats a great idea but that has literally been done so many times ive lost count" but mostly ? they have the most CLEVER ideas! BC they arent having to think about how they are gonna pay each person and overhead and what not....their minds are just OPEN to explore all possibilities! i would PAY a non wam person to come up with ideas! when you are trying to produce omething you would a. have fun doing b. make money doing c. be able to afford to do........it can put a road block on your creativity! that is what i love about it.
the backfire: people that have never wammed but ask for customs....
they ask us to do stuff and i read it and think "they have never done this before have they? bc this is like.....could be catastrophic.....the mess could literally ruin my (fill in the blanks) or this could scare the shit out of (fill in the blanks) you know? so i have to take their idea and dial it back a bit. to where it works for them but i can actually DO IT, you know? but......i love it. i love the "thinking big" but we gotta remember....thinking big? COSTS MONEY.
anyhooo i love talking to "non wam women" its so fun to hear their ideas!
they have the best ideas! sometimes its like "ohhhh thats a great idea but that has literally been done so many times ive lost count" but mostly ? they have the most CLEVER ideas! BC they arent having to think about how they are gonna pay each person and overhead and what not....their minds are just OPEN to explore all possibilities! i would PAY a non wam person to come up with ideas! when you are trying to produce omething you would a. have fun doing b. make money doing c. be able to afford to do........it can put a road block on your creativity! that is what i love about it.
the backfire: people that have never wammed but ask for customs....
they ask us to do stuff and i read it and think "they have never done this before have they? bc this is like.....could be catastrophic.....the mess could literally ruin my (fill in the blanks) or this could scare the shit out of (fill in the blanks) you know? so i have to take their idea and dial it back a bit. to where it works for them but i can actually DO IT, you know? but......i love it. i love the "thinking big" but we gotta remember....thinking big? COSTS MONEY.
anyhooo i love talking to "non wam women" its so fun to hear their ideas!
There isn’t a mess I don’t love!
Jayce said: sorry i didnt have a second or my add didnt allow me to read anything but im commenting. something i noticed either when a. bringing in a complete wam virgin or b. talking to someone who isnt into wam or has never done it?
they have the best ideas! sometimes its like "ohhhh thats a great idea but that has literally been done so many times ive lost count" but mostly ? they have the most CLEVER ideas! BC they arent having to think about how they are gonna pay each person and overhead and what not....their minds are just OPEN to explore all possibilities! i would PAY a non wam person to come up with ideas! when you are trying to produce omething you would a. have fun doing b. make money doing c. be able to afford to do........it can put a road block on your creativity! that is what i love about it.
the backfire: people that have never wammed but ask for customs....
they ask us to do stuff and i read it and think "they have never done this before have they? bc this is like.....could be catastrophic.....the mess could literally ruin my (fill in the blanks) or this could scare the shit out of (fill in the blanks) you know? so i have to take their idea and dial it back a bit. to where it works for them but i can actually DO IT, you know? but......i love it. i love the "thinking big" but we gotta remember....thinking big? COSTS MONEY.
anyhooo i love talking to "non wam women" its so fun to hear their ideas!
they have the best ideas! sometimes its like "ohhhh thats a great idea but that has literally been done so many times ive lost count" but mostly ? they have the most CLEVER ideas! BC they arent having to think about how they are gonna pay each person and overhead and what not....their minds are just OPEN to explore all possibilities! i would PAY a non wam person to come up with ideas! when you are trying to produce omething you would a. have fun doing b. make money doing c. be able to afford to do........it can put a road block on your creativity! that is what i love about it.
the backfire: people that have never wammed but ask for customs....
they ask us to do stuff and i read it and think "they have never done this before have they? bc this is like.....could be catastrophic.....the mess could literally ruin my (fill in the blanks) or this could scare the shit out of (fill in the blanks) you know? so i have to take their idea and dial it back a bit. to where it works for them but i can actually DO IT, you know? but......i love it. i love the "thinking big" but we gotta remember....thinking big? COSTS MONEY.
anyhooo i love talking to "non wam women" its so fun to hear their ideas!
YOU commented on one of MY threads?
I shall have to alert the media.
RobbyWLP said:
YOU commented on one of MY threads?
I shall have to alert the media.
Jayce said: sorry i didnt have a second or my add didnt allow me to read anything but im commenting. something i noticed either when a. bringing in a complete wam virgin or b. talking to someone who isnt into wam or has never done it?
they have the best ideas! sometimes its like "ohhhh thats a great idea but that has literally been done so many times ive lost count" but mostly ? they have the most CLEVER ideas! BC they arent having to think about how they are gonna pay each person and overhead and what not....their minds are just OPEN to explore all possibilities! i would PAY a non wam person to come up with ideas! when you are trying to produce omething you would a. have fun doing b. make money doing c. be able to afford to do........it can put a road block on your creativity! that is what i love about it.
the backfire: people that have never wammed but ask for customs....
they ask us to do stuff and i read it and think "they have never done this before have they? bc this is like.....could be catastrophic.....the mess could literally ruin my (fill in the blanks) or this could scare the shit out of (fill in the blanks) you know? so i have to take their idea and dial it back a bit. to where it works for them but i can actually DO IT, you know? but......i love it. i love the "thinking big" but we gotta remember....thinking big? COSTS MONEY.
anyhooo i love talking to "non wam women" its so fun to hear their ideas!
they have the best ideas! sometimes its like "ohhhh thats a great idea but that has literally been done so many times ive lost count" but mostly ? they have the most CLEVER ideas! BC they arent having to think about how they are gonna pay each person and overhead and what not....their minds are just OPEN to explore all possibilities! i would PAY a non wam person to come up with ideas! when you are trying to produce omething you would a. have fun doing b. make money doing c. be able to afford to do........it can put a road block on your creativity! that is what i love about it.
the backfire: people that have never wammed but ask for customs....
they ask us to do stuff and i read it and think "they have never done this before have they? bc this is like.....could be catastrophic.....the mess could literally ruin my (fill in the blanks) or this could scare the shit out of (fill in the blanks) you know? so i have to take their idea and dial it back a bit. to where it works for them but i can actually DO IT, you know? but......i love it. i love the "thinking big" but we gotta remember....thinking big? COSTS MONEY.
anyhooo i love talking to "non wam women" its so fun to hear their ideas!
YOU commented on one of MY threads?
I shall have to alert the media.
while i saw a south park reference or the possibility of a south park reference above im going to say "shut your fucking face, uncle fucker"
i like this thread and had some time with my weirdo wake up schedule! up at 3 am yesterday AND today....then? my whole day is done by like 4 pm. but do you not agree? even hearing stories about your lady friends who give you ideas? they always have such fresh and cool angles!! wouldnt you agree?
There isn’t a mess I don’t love!
They give me fresh and cool angles? What....is that Geometry WAM?
Do I now need calculate the angle and air speed of a thrown pastry?
But you used potty mouth words so I fogive you.
Do I now need calculate the angle and air speed of a thrown pastry?
But you used potty mouth words so I fogive you.
ChuckSM said: she insists on not getting her hair messed up (?) even though I tell it washes out but still she doesn't her hair trashed. Seeing a girl's hair destroyed is a big turn on for me.
Wet and messy hair can be quite heavy and that feeling can be very uncomfortable for some. Plus if her hair is really long, all that weight puts stress on the roots and can make it fall out. Or perhaps it's color treated; that requires different shampoo and extra washes can make it fade faster, depending on how it's done.
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