What are some of your favorite scenes or pictures/screenshots of videos that involve 2 clean girls messing up the 3rd girl?
Here are pictures from an unreleased Cali Logan custom I did years ago. It has her and Keri Spectrum going after Jacquelyn Velvets. Eventually, all 3 get messy, but that isn't what this thread is about.
I plan on emailing Cali to ask if she will ever release it.
I CAN believe it didn't take off..because sadly the vast majority of people view any clean girl as a wasted opportunity.
The actual dynamic of enjoying cfwf (cleanfemalewammedfemale!) is a real niche within a niche. If it was popular you wouldn't need to commission your customs, and I wouldn't have decided I needed to become a content producer and make the clips I wanted to see as no-one else was.
But there must be some more great clips out there..even if they are only the start of scenes. I'll have another trawl tomorrow
2 clean girls....not easy.... 3 clean+ 3 messy ..better but to see the glances, and the reactions great it's why a scene must be looking few times (-see slow-mo)....
Definitely something I love. I think having 2 people messing someone up (and probably laughing at them) is super humiliating, but I can understand why it's not done as much; paying 3 models and only getting one messy is a very expensive way to make a scene!
It's certainly something I'd love to explore in a session one day but again paying for a session with 2 other girls and having both of them stay clean is very expensive!
As someone who's shot several "one girl stays clean, one girl gets messy" scenes, I like the dynamic. And 100% of the time, that girl staying clean would NEVER be appearing if there was a snowball's chance in hell she was gonna get messy, so the whole "will she?" question is a moot point.
That said, this is what my InBox looks like for weeks after one of these scenes: 1) "Hey I bought Scene X and Girl #2 didn't get messy!!" 2) "Hey when are you gonna bring back Girl #2 and get her messy this time??" .....and variations of the above....
"As someone who's shot several "one girl stays clean, one girl gets messy" scenes, I like the dynamic. And 100% of the time, that girl staying clean would NEVER be appearing if there was a snowball's chance in hell she was gonna get messy, so the whole "will she?" question is a moot point.
That said, this is what my InBox looks like for weeks after one of these scenes: 1) "Hey I bought Scene X and Girl #2 didn't get messy!!" 2) "Hey when are you gonna bring back Girl #2 and get her messy this time??" .....and variations of the above...." Quoting SStuff's post. Couldn't figure how to make the fancy blue box appear.
I see your point Rich. But as you say everyone has a different taste. I enjoy seeing the one remain clean and have several returns where she stays clean. Do I want to eventually see her get her comeuppance? Absolutely. But if she never gets a pie or cake it only makes each return more anticipated in my case. Being the pie in the face fan you are I am sure you have read commentary from Blake Edwards about the scene in "The Great Race" where he talks of keeping Tony Curtis clean to make everyone want him to get it in the end. So it is with most of us pie in the face fans about seeing the other model remain clean. I even look for splatter on the "clean" girl's clothing to see just a little destruction on her part.
Back in the days when AllWam was a stand alone site I was a subscriber. Their mud wrestling videos were great in the fact that there was an audience around the mud pit wearing nice clothing including handbags, gloves and hats. It was a great thing to see them get splattered with mud or get pulled into the mud pit. On a couple of occasions one of the bystanders who stayed clean throughout got pulled into the mud pit in the end. To me that was a slice of heaven having seen that audience member duck and stay behind others to remain clean get their clothing ruined in the end. Most classic pie fight movie scenes have the innocent bystander getting hit.
I guess my conclusion is that most of us wet and messy fans always want to see the clean / dry model get theirs. And if they don't get it right away we do want them to return so that they can get messy / wet. Just the way our brains tick. But I still like the clean model and will keep up with her scenes as well.
Agreed. I do think people really like the scenes as long as the clean girl gets her "comeuppance".... Either towards the end of the clip (which is mainly how I do it).... Or I guess in a follow-up clip? I suppose my issues have been behind the camera. The clean model wanted to get paid the same as the one getting messy, but had no intent on getting messy, or on returning to get messy later. So there's definitely a lot of buildup.... But the "comeuppance" never happens.
I think the scenes are still fine on their own just from the "inequality" standpoint, but they do feel like missed opportunities. Also, I suggested something similar to Taylor recently and she was ADAMANT that any model booked with her HAD to get messy too!
I differ from Rich in that regard, as I use my regular models who are more than happy to get messy..but in certain scenes they stay completely clean. As someone pointed out above it's quite an expensive way to film WAM scenes and when in my first year I started veering away from it..and then realised I wasn't enjoying the scenes I was making very much, even if they were selling better.
So back I went to shooting scenes where 2 girls stay totally clean..and I love it. Plus..as I only employ models who are happy to get messy..everyone gets their comeuppance in the end.
In fact, the office stories I shoot are like a WAM soap opera with an ongoing plotline that carries over into the next scenes..to ensure there is always a revenge motive for one office girl wanting to trash another lol
More pics when I am back at my PC tonight or tomorrow
cakebattercustard said: Definitely something I love. I think having 2 people messing someone up (and probably laughing at them) is super humiliating, but I can understand why it's not done as much; paying 3 models and only getting one messy is a very expensive way to make a scene!
It's certainly something I'd love to explore in a session one day but again paying for a session with 2 other girls and having both of them stay clean is very expensive!
I agree with you completely. Hiring 3 girls and only WAMming one would be a waste. But I like the look of those scenes. So what I do is commission long scenes where the first 10-15 minutes only one girl gets it. Eventually one or both of the others gets nailed too.
Here is a pic from another unreleased Cali Logan video with Keri Spectrum and Jenn D going after Jade Indica. Indeed, Jade gets it the first half and then Keri and Jenn turn on one another and all 3 end up covered.
Wow, Bozo, I love the look of that Kerri/Jenn/Jade video. Would love to be able to buy that one or even just see more stills from it. (Preferably in another thread so we can see all three of those gorgeous ladies well and truly pied!!!)
pieromaniac_too said: Wow, Bozo, I love the look of that Kerri/Jenn/Jade video. Would love to be able to buy that one or even just see more stills from it. (Preferably in another thread so we can see all three of those gorgeous ladies well and truly pied!!!)
As promised, here are a few more...several of these are from scenes I've yet to release, but I scoured the raw footage to get some screengrabs as this thread's motif is close to my heart.