What site or video did you come across the FIRST time you discovered WAM was a THING on the Internet?
For me, back in 1998, I entered "pie in the face" into a search engine not named Google and I discovered Phoebe's website. At that time, she only had 4 videos filmed and posted. The first one I clicked on was her most recent one, which was her and Tracy seeing who wore pies better - brunettes or blondes.
By the way, I did this at the county library. lol I immediately bought myself a PC and some Internet service.
My first search was "ladies in mud"!! And Messyfun came across!!! From here, I discovered messyfun pie videos, and I was shocked to know that I wasn't the only one in the world!!!
I can't remember the exact first few, as they were just pages on the internet where someone had posted a few pics of themselves/friends getting messy. Calling them "websites" would be a bit of a stretch.
But I do remember tentatively typing "women getting pied" (or similar) into Google and genuinely wondering if anything was going to come up at all. Oh, the irony...
In terms of proper sites, I'd have to say either Messy Fun or Splosh, which I stumbled across more or less simultaneously in 2001.
I remember seeing a magazine in an adult store in York called Splosh - Issue 11 I think. It had the beautiful Louise Hodges on the cover covered in goo and bought it straight away.
I always had a fascination with all things messy but thought I was alone in my kink until I saw this magazine and when I read it realised that there are more messy kinky folk out there.
I found a website called Kelli-Lisa's summer of gunge, when I was maybe 14? I was very naive and didn't realise that all the pictures were the same person. I even emailed the owner to ask where they got the pictures from... turns out that he was a cross-dresser who was taking loads of photos of himself dressed up as women and making up scenarios of why.
Then I found Messy Jessie's very first promo video on a fledgling site called youtube.
Then I found wamchat.net, and spent many happy years talking about WAM with strangers.
Technically WAMTEC and Messyfun were the first I stumbled on to. And that alone was amazing. But the first that really got me was Wambabes. Here was a girl my age that wasn't a paid model for a producer that was doing this on her own, and she liked it! Not just another model doing something for a paycheck.
Remember just searching "girls pied" on youtube and after exhausting all the mainstream stuff when I was around 12 or 13 found a slapstickstuff compilation. Didn't have any concept that this was a proper fetish thing till a fair bit later but i'm pretty sure that was my introduction to WAM
NorthernWAM said: Remember just searching "girls pied" on youtube and after exhausting all the mainstream stuff when I was around 12 or 13 found a slapstickstuff compilation. Didn't have any concept that this was a proper fetish thing till a fair bit later but i'm pretty sure that was my introduction to WAM
I've been the gateway drug for a few folks over the years.
My first encounter was sometime in the 1980's while accessing alt.sex.fetish Usenet newsgroups on my work PC (lucky I did not get fired). It was a very convoluted method that went through a computer at UC Berkeley (I think). Anyway, I was browsing through the group alt.sex.fetish.tickling (a fetish that was somewhat acceptable at the time) and somebody posted a message regarding getting a pie in the face. After a while a reply came back saying something like: this is the wrong group for this, you should go alt.sex.fetish.wet-and-messy.
When I read that reply I thought it was just a joke, especially since I truly thought I was one of the very few people in the whole world how might get turned on by messy fun. But, just out of curiosity I type in alt.sex.fetish.wet-and-messy, and much to my IMMENSE surprise there it was!! And there were tons of messages just dealing with the wonderful world of messy fun. Totally blew me away, and changed my life!!!!
I found first pic from and old BBS and going holy cow i was hooked. Then found Max and Star which kept me entertained for hours and gave me strong wrists.
I remember first finding messyfun.com and seeing their kinks. One was to Thursday Night WAM or whatever it was called. Another was the umd. Because I didn't know any better, for weeks I used to go messyfun and click on the umd link because I didn't know you could go straight there. I was dumb. lol
I was looking at BBSs long before the web was born, and ran across one where I was able to download some photos, including this one. I was amazed that there was a BBS just for mud puddle photos, and a few years later, discovered the very first version of the UMD.
Like many here, until that happened I thought I was the only one, and had some weird wacky brain to get aroused by messy women, but then I learned it was a 'thing'.
I've since been a member of MPV several times, and have purchased a lot of their materials over the years. I was there when Rob Blaine from Messyfun would mail out monthly newsletters, and caught MessyGirl from near the start of her website being launched, and of course, the early versions of the UMD. But MPV provided the very first wam image I had ever seen.
I had barely hit puberty when I first discovered wam. In fact I think I discovered it with in mere months of doing my first ever internet searches for naked women - entirely due to the fact that getting messy with mud and paint had been appealing to me long before I ever had a sex drive. But my memory of my childhood is so scattered, that my first real understanding that I had the fetish might have been the result of one of three different internet searches. I can't remember which, so I'll list them all.
3. Pictures of Mighty Mud Mania in Arizona. (The only one of the three that wasn't R-rated, obviously, so it might very well have been the first.)
2. A single photograph of a nude, mud covered woman who had been attending what appeared to be a neo-pagan festival. I remember it vividly because it had the tagline "who needs clothes when you've got mud?" and up to a few years ago I could STILL locate it on google by searching those exact words. It seems to be gone now, though.
3. Screenshots of a mud video purchasable from cocoa-soft.com. Yeah, if you all don't remember, they used used to have a .com as well as a .net. The .com disappeared long ago, and none of the images are present in the archive.org caches, but just from the color of the backgrounds I can tell it was the .com I stumbled on first. And I believe I found it by going all the way to the last page of a google image search for mud women. Finding it at the every end was like finding buried treasure after a long journey, and if this wasn't the first time I discovered wam, it was definitely the point at which I was officially hooked.
At the education center computer lab on the Army base I was assigned to at the time, I surreptitiously entered "girls who got pied in the face" into a Netscape search bar, timing my tap of the Enter key to miss the roving patrol of the asshole librarian who liked to read over people's shoulder and make snarky remarks about who's looking at what. Aqua Entertainment popped up, then Messyfun, then Schokolada's Mess, Bill's Pie Page, Hurley's Clip Tapes, etc. and life as I knew it was forever changed. I was no longer alone.
NorthernWAM said: Remember just searching "girls pied" on youtube and after exhausting all the mainstream stuff when I was around 12 or 13 found a slapstickstuff compilation. Didn't have any concept that this was a proper fetish thing till a fair bit later but i'm pretty sure that was my introduction to WAM
I've been the gateway drug for a few folks over the years.
Yeah dude, you're actually one of the sites I reference to girls when describing this whole world of ours. I think you represent it really well and also with approachability.
I was doing a Yahoo or Alta Vista search back in 1997 for messy girls and one of the search results came up with a word that was brand new to me at the time: gunge. That led to pics from NHP, especially the Jenny Hull gunging, and eventually to the stories on Shokolada's Mess. From there, I learned about Messy Fun, Max & Star, and Hurley's Pie Page. Clips were limited on dial-up internet back then (and I was too young at the time to order anything through the mail), but the ones that jump out were Ariel's Pie Shop and the Daizy/Carolyn/Chase pie scene from MFV 13.
I for while looked for pie slime online came across anglefan and slapstickstuff yotuube traielrs saw they sold vid not able to buy didnt know of it as wam untill later
In 1999, I was seaching "pie in the face". In those times, "torta na cara" used to return too few results. In the start, I was skeptical, because results returned only pie in men (specially, pie in Bill Gates. Yuck!). Until I found Hurley Coward. For me, who, until then, depended of TV broadcasts to see women pied, was just as I found a gold mine! And, exploring the site, I found the link to UMD. And then this new world opened for me.
I saw a tiny, postage stamp size image in an ad in the back of a por mag in 1996, it was a picture of a girl in white lingerie pouring something gooey and blue all over her chest. The tagline said "Messy girls have more fun". Then a way to write for a catalog. It was the original Messyfun, and the catalog had a small list of messy and wet websites. That's when I knew I had to get me one of them new Pentium computers with dat razor sharp vga monitor, because my old 286 machine couldn't run an internet browser.
I hadn't been online long but late one night in Feb. '95 I typed some keywords into AltaVista to see just what might be out there. I found usenet wet-and-messy, Messyfun, and The Quicksand Page. My heart was pounding like a Jamaican Drum Corp and my head nearly exploded. It was not unlike discovering alien life on another planet. I. WAS. NOT. ALONE! I literally did not sleep for the next three days as I stormed the internet from A to Izzard searching for more.
Then I learned about the MPV BBS. Yes, MPV began as a BBS in a back room at Dave's house. Primitive as it was it was a treasure beyond counting. All of this on dial-up at 9600 baud. I was ordering stuff from Messyfun and got a ridiculously expensive ISDN connection so I could have 128k! Then came so much more but the best was yet to come until in 1998 Dave Lodoski took a gamble and financed his first video shoot on credit cards. I thought it was all tremendous but the photos were few and not very good. I messaged him saying to call me if he ever needed a photographer. It was really a joke but he responded and summoned me to California for the next shoot. I'll spare you the details but if you knew where I was coming from in my personal life it would seem impossible to do this. Greatest gamble I ever took and for the next 20+ years my life has been a surreal adventure way beyond what I ever thought possible and I made a best friend in the process
I will never forget that first moment as the page scrolled down to reveal Shaun of "Messyfun" wearing a red dress and hip deep in the mud. I was mid-30's and not aware that life hadn't even begun yet.
Goodness, this thread has brought back some memories!
First time finding something interesting online (and realising, at long last, that I was not alone...) would have been summer of '95, at university. Finally got access to the computer 'lab' as it was still known...and the delights of Netscape Navigator
Not sure how I finally came across the magic link, but I would certainly have been using a search engine such as Yahoo, Alta Vista, Lycos or Excite. And then, there she was: Shaun from MessyFun, in all her messy paint glory. What a revelation!
Second up was Splosh, with Bill Shipton's unique (and very British, haha) style that still endures today.
Can't believe these are files from 24 years ago. When I sat surreptitiously in that lab (trying to ensure I was on a workstation that could be seen by as few people as possible), I was downloading as many files as possible onto a 1.44Mb 3.5" floppy disk
It would be another year before I was able to afford a US Robotics 28.8 modem, and the subscription for a dial-up internet connection (not to mention the associated phone charges...), so that I didn't have to sneak into the lab at unsocial hours to continue my "research"
SploshAndGo said: Goodness, this thread has brought back some memories!
... there she was: Shaun from MessyFun, in all her messy paint glory. What a revelation!
Shaun's name comes up often. I think she was the "first" girl for quite a few of us. She came and worked with Dave's early efforts too. A real special piece of work.
There used to be an erotic literary magazine that was published out of Northwestern Univ in Evanston. It was carried in Barnes&Noble and it was tucked by Paris Review and other lit mags. I can't recall its name, but as I was thumbing through it one day, had to be in 91-92 when I was in grad school, I saw a small ad tucked away in the back pages. It was an ad for Messyfun and it was their at the time flagship model Victoria covered in mud. It was like a bolt of lightning because right then I knew there were others out there into my same kink. I immediately signed up for their newsletter and got my first VHS from Rob probably '94, the one with Ariel's Pie Shop (still in my basement with 1-2 of his other titles, including "At the Messy Movies").
Fast forward a few years, when I got Internet access (think we were calling it the worldwide web then), Messyfun was of course the first site I hit (dial-up sound=Proustian rush). :arteest:
My first exposure to the commercial side of wam was finding the Sposh video "hot coffee and sticky buns" in a local stationers shop - WH Smith's amazingly!
Picked up another couple from there a few days later. This would have been in about 1995.
Didn't have my own computer until about 1999 and this site was pretty much the first thing I cam across. 20 years ago - jeez!
I saw that journal, or something similar to it, at the Barnes & Noble on Michigan Ave in the late '90s. I was working for a medical ad agency in the ADA building on Chicago Ave.
Yes, it was stocked near the Paris Review and the NY Review of Books--still among my favorite journals. But what I remember is the ad that Rob Blaine regularly placed in that book. That ad featured a wonderful topless blonde covered in pie. I felt so ashamed that I was the only person who regularly flipped through that journal.
After that, who needed Road & Track?
I could go on for quite a while, but I don't to bore folks