The response in Mrs. Bee's last post by rt2018 got me thinking. He noticed that in couple of the pics, Mrs Bee's "no reaction" made the visuals that much better.

A lot of virtual ink has been spilled about a women's reaction, such as surprise, outrage and mock anger, or the fact certain fans here want to see the model laughing and enjoying herself.

What about the non-reaction? Pretty lady gets pied and continues on as if nothing happened, everything is normal, business as usual.

(Bigshipper's so caffeinated this morning, coffee should be drinking him.)

I have made this point before about Clown Julie and Splosh models. I prefer what I call the resignation reaction. Almost like "here we go again". The model is being "humiliated" and can do little about it but sigh and look annoyed. As one of the top pie-in-the-face models of all time, Mrs. Bee does this look very well. In short, it is great!

It's a tricky line to walk. I think your wife can basically do ANYTHING well, so she's the ideal of this vibe. In my experience, the one model I had who was good at this was Toshia from ages ago. She got good enough at the "non-reaction" for us to meta-comment on it, in skits. (In one of her last ones, she was describing pie hits and goes, "The Pretend-Like-Nothing's-Happening Pie." Then she pretends like nothing happened, and gets smashed. )

My newest model Julie has a similar stoic reaction to a lot of the hits, very limited reaction or just resignation: Slumped shoulders, deep sigh, etc. But since some of that is her natural reaction, and not "acting," I think it's a turn-off.

You wanna walk the line where the model *appears* to be resigned to her fate and very stoic, but in reality you know she doesn't mind. Similar to humiliation scenarios where you want the model to SELL being humiliated, without actually being upset IRL.

This is one of my favorite reactions (or whatever we're calling it). Not so much the slumped shouldered resignation and acceptance, more the unflappable woman who takes it in stride and maintains her bearing after taking the pie. Maybe even managing to throw a challenging look at the camera before she's wiped. Letting people know she's still in control of herself and her surroundings. Mrs. Bee does this extremely well, as did Kym Jane, Liz Ashley, others I'll remember as soon as I post this. Great topic, I love this.

Side note, I'm doing a short term consultation at Starbucks HQ where the (free) coffee is most definitely flowing. I go full Cornholio every morning then turn into Tommy Chong after lunch. Makes it easy to plan my day, ha ha.

I thought this was a great example of what we're talking about: That's some sexy shit right there:

Yeah great point. I talked about what it looks like from a viewer's perspective, but it's not just another reaction for models to act out. Leaving actual members of the WAM community out of it for this example, for me at least, it's only a turn-on when we have some back story and know that a particular model is not aroused like a wammer would be, but is nonplussed nevertheless. It's not her thing but she's totally cool with it. Love that.

That IS a reaction.

The total non reaction is generally frowned upon. To quote one WAMmer

"If she's just going to stand there motionless, why not throw a pie at a tree?"

My response was...."what if it's a good looking tree?"

Thanks for the kind props to Mrs. Bee, it made her day.

Agree with you that it's a tricky line to walk and takes a certain type and/or quality of acting to properly "sell it".

Would MostWAM's interviews fall into this category? Where you have two people sitting on a sofa, apparently not noticing all the gunge that's being poured over them.

Kymberly Jane can play a lot of roles, good company for sure. Both Mrs Bee and I are fans. I fancy her my spirit animal (she's got a strong misanthrope streak). I thought Liz was a great pie model but wasn't sold on her acting abilities, but I probably didn't see that wide a swatch of her work.

Ha, you've got Cornholio on one side, Tommy Chong on the other, which makes you Even Steven!

I'm not sure this makes me a horrible person here, esp as I'm a big fan of Lisa, but I have not seen any other than what they have posted here via threads. If so, then, yes, act like nothing odd is going on even though the model has been messed up to a ridiculous level.

It's a good distinction, but I'm not talking about the blank canvas, zero personality pie target. I agree, that's no fun. What I'm thinking is more a real life situation scenario in which the model(s) either don't acknowledge the mess or barely register it, but soldier on. Thinking Cafe Wamnifique, or, say MG's The Easy Modeling Gig, which are just two examples (and apparently MostWam's Interview scenes).

I like non-reaction too.
That thing of the model getting paralyzed after the pie, as she was thinking:
"Oh, my God, I can't believe it, after all the time and work I spent with my makeup, dressing myself so well to go (work/dinner/party - any formal occasion), that thing happened to me! Oh..."
Is a amazing turn on...
Another good niche for wammers work on too...

Aubrey Plaza came to mind when I was originally reading Rich's comment. I think that kind of deadpan humor and persona is what can best pull this off. I'd say Kym would be the best WAM model equivalent that I've ever seen.

This is exactly right. I love the "Sigh. Here we go again." reaction. I also really like it when a girl starts a sentence, gets nailed, and continues her sentence as she cleans her eyes. Like nothing happened. I wouldn't say this qualifies as a non-reaction though. A no-reaction is when the model just sits there and says NOTHING. That is dull.

I agree with the non-reaction just sitting or standing there carrying on as if nothing happened. I particularly love the shrugged shoulder, sighing, or just raising hands up as if to say, 'sure, uh huh'.

Can't go wrong with those, but again proves how fickle this market is. Some guys love laughing and fun. Others want disgusted reactions and others want totally shocked and surprised. I love any of these which is why I am not hard to please!

Bigshipper, I love your non-reactions during our WAM shoots. You took green slime with the best of them!!!

Cafe Wamnifique is exactly what came to my mind! The way Mrs. Bee just keeps going despite pie after pie is my favorite aspect of that video.

Besides Mrs. Bee's track record of professional pie-taking, whenever I think of the "no-reaction" style the first video that pops into my head is MadLoversCosplay's "I Am Waiting For a Bus."

But on the topic of Mrs. Bee, I find it incredibly amusing that whenever she takes a pie for a photo op on UMD it just comes off like this is just a daily routine, like taking a shower or brushing your teeth: a pie in the face in the Bigshipper household is just a part of any ordinary day.

Sounds like a pleasant life

Reminds me of that PieGirlKay video where she was doing daily routine things around the house only to find herself randomly pied during each one!

One of my personal favorite "no reaction" clips was something only briefly on YouTube about 9 or 10 years ago. A very pretty female singer was performing one of her songs on the NYC streets, with just her own acoustic guitar for accompaniment. A crowd of people passed in front of her quickly, and one of them planted a pretty good pie in the singer's face in midsong, moving on very quickly before you could even make them out on camera. With barely a split second of pause, the well-pied, beautiful singer kept singing and playing her song as whipped cream dripped in gooey blobs from her face to splatter across the front of her guitar. She didn't do the whole song, but at least kept it up for maybe 15 seconds post-pie (at one point very quickly gulping in a bit of pie from her lips between lines) til she got to the end of the chorus and brought the piece to a semi-proper conclusion.

This was a woman who was otherwise making a serious attempt to make it as a singer. (It's possible this pieing came out of the blue from a passing NYC stranger ... her brief comment on the video suggested that.... but I doubt it.) I remember finding a social media page of hers at the time where she linked to the pie video with a remark to the effect of: "This has been my most popular video on YouTube for the past few weeks. Is somebody trying to tell me something?" A few weeks after that, she removed the video. I do not recall the singer's name, but like 99.9% of hopeful singers, she did not go on to fame and fortune.

This would be exactly what I'm talking about and would be a great concept for a short skit. (However, I feel sort of sorry for this poor gal although I guess you could say 'that's showbiz'.)

Great example! I was also thinking of Vella Lovell from "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend."

Would love to see Aubrey Plaza pied!

This is probably the closest she's been:

Aubrey Plaza? Rilly??
I swear, darlin', after all these years I just don't know you sometimes...

Also, it's pretty hilarious how you refer to yourself in the third person.

~B

MostWam has also created what I'll call a rather unique "pie non-reaction variant."

They have at least several restaurant skits in which two girls who've come to a restaurant together get into an argument. The waitress serves them cream pies -- one whole pie apiece -- which they end up slapping into each other's faces. They order more pies, and the waitress brings them, oblivious to the fact that her customers are wearing the pies rather than eating them. Many more rounds of pies follow, with the women never acknowledging their pastry battle to the waitress, only to one another. They just keep ordering pies as if they were consuming ludicrous amounts of dessert. The waitress keeps serving them round after round of pies (and occasionally other dessert variants) as though everything is completely normal. There is light conversation between the waitress and the customers about the different flavors of pie, how the waitress thinks they're really going to like this one, whether they need a drink refill, etc. In one of the skits where Charlotte is the waitress, she remarks with some surprise on how many pies her lovely customers are managing to eat and wonders aloud how they stay so slim, going so far as to ask them for diet tips! "Drink lots of water," advises a pie-slathered Sky.

This non-reaction is impossible to capture in still photos but below are a few screencaps from these videos showing the waitresses blithely going about their duties in the midst of their customers' culinary chaos.