You know hiring models and WAMming the hell out of them to sell a video sounds like fun. But you don't. Why not?

And how many of you have no obstacles (money, spouses, etc.) that would stop you yet you still don't?

No money. No spare time. Would be fun, but it'd take too much focus away from other pursuits that are less, well, masturbatory.

What he said!

Oh, yeah; and a wife that would kick me out!

Norman

I'd love to, but it doesn't seem very profitable.

Plus people keep saying you're not supposed to splooge on the models!

I just get customs, it's like producing but just for myself. It's awesome. That way I don't have to worry about a scene not selling or people arguing over shaving cream pies vs. whip cream vs. crust etc. or whatever the new crazy rule about pies is.

Not sure if this is a jokey comment or a serious one, but I've always viewed it as a hobby not a business.

So if the losses are affordable, then much as a train-spotter won't go into it to make a profit, but will just spend what he can afford indulging his hobby as he gets huge pleasure from it, then provided I get great joy from it, and know what I can afford to invest in my hobby, I will do it.

You are right that you are probably on a hiding to nothing wanting to make money, but to me that's a question about starting a business, rather than having a hobby that brings pleasure. If you can get the joy of creating something that's exactly as you would like it, & people appreciate it, and the amount spent investing in that pleasure is affordbale then why not?...

and to answer my own question

when I was married, it was my wife that was the blocker..before that it was just a general feeling you had to have some sort of special undefined mystical ability and that someone like me could never do it.

Clearly that's not a dealbreaker with 5092 people on here.

Also, because becoming a zillionaire would just complicate my life.

Mostly because I don't want to out myself.

I found it really difficult to approach people and finding the middle between a good and fun actress and a porn actress is hard.

I can do the best, but sells will be mediocre because I would carry most of the costs and the video with pies, slime and a blonde model, might not sell well because the model wasn't wearing the socks with the right color.

My combination is between writing my own scripts and somehow achieving the middle results at my local unreleased testing (not sure how I got so lucky to have a few girls do that), trying fiverr (which is overly saturated) and buying from Rich (had great models to my taste) and Wamerica (they're going for the whining beat, that sometimes works).

I think the future would be in crowd funding customs. because for about the price of the video, I would be willing to prefinance with producers I trust and get the script/action beats I want, but wouldn't go full custom price on that.

I've done some amateur stuff for fun, but trying to produce a professional looking video would be too expensive for me, and the real producers here do it far better than I ever could.

Although I'm pretty low on the money front, I do have the time and freedom. I guess what stops me is:
Super specific interests. My "IBYW style pants filling" niche probably wouldn't take off seeing how popular pies, nudity, and general gunging are.

I'm sure I'd obsess over it to the point of it not being "fun" much like I did to my YouTube channel. Audience this, SEO that, etc.

My identity vs. my work. I'd get paranoid about how well I'm keeping my "WAM producer" identity separate from my actual identity.

Investment vs. return.

My location most of all. I live in a pretty small town. My model outreach is...nil.

And just good ol' fear. All the "what ifs" and whatnot-which I know are silly cause we can't see the future but they're totally there.

That said I'd love nothing more than to give myself a constant stream of public knicker/jeans filling content instead of just looking for it, but for now I'll have to be satisfied with imagination, searching, and customs.

I've come close to dabbling by hiring a voice actress to dub a WAM comic I drew-but even that presents some of those "identity" fears for me. Was fun though and the upload is still doing pretty well in views.

Had I answered my own question, this pretty much sums up what I would have said. I would have no interest in producing stuff that doesn't excite me. Producers like MG are willing to do lots of different things (slime, pies, bondage, etc) but I would be 99% pies. My videos would be very similar to Reverend Slymford's.

That's why I mostly shoot customs. Making a good video cost a lot of money and most people aren't willing to pay for videos, they just want to see the free pics.

I don't understand why being ordinary human beings means I should be less afraid.

I have been around here since the late 90s...I'm in my 30s and after introducing women to my fetish and realizing most of them enjoyed it I am now thinking about bringing new material to the community. I have a girl that is ready to start today...but I have to go to my regular job first. lol

So am I old fashioned doin pics?
Is taping the new trend ?

Technically I think it's more that you're not supposed to get caught splooging on the models.


Note: This is a joke. I do not support the practice of splooging on models unless the model has been hired specifically for this purpose and knows what's coming, so to speak. And even then I wouldn't watch it as that's not something I'm into.

Agree with this. I just couldn't be a producer for that reason.

Another one, and linked to it, strange as this may sound to producers who see this as a purely practical issue, is that I think I'd take it personally if I contacted a model for a shoot and got a "What, get covered in gunge for a fetish site? Take a hike!!" response. Rightly or wrongly, I'd imagine her telling her friends, "You'll never guess the work some weird guy offered me today..." and feel terrible.

Clearly, there are other ways of looking at it, as if there weren't I doubt there would be any WAM producers (!), but all I'm saying is I think that's how I'd probably feel.

On a positive note though, all the above does mean I've got genuine admiration for those who are producers and so can presumably get past things like that.

Models are just like any other females in (mostly) their early to mid-twenties. Which is both good & bad.

Good = They need to make money for bills & get paid. They appreciate when you're a normal, non-creepy guy. They WILL enjoy the shoot if you make it fun & treat them with respect. (i.e. Don't be a creep, don't be a perv, don't try to invite yourself into their hotel room for the night, and don't splooge on them while their eyes are closed. Among others.)

Bad = They are females in their early to mid-twenties.
They might check email... They might not.
They might respond quickly... Or slowly... Or not at all.
They might respond to the 15th message, and have literally NO recollection of the previous 14 sent over the previous 2 years. (Yes, this REALLY happened.)
They might respond to texts quickly... Or slowly... Or not at all.
They will NEVER pick up the phone. Phones aren't for talking!
Mostly, their only "model profile" will be on Instagram... And if you can ever get a model to respond on IG, kudos. You're better than me.

In case you're wondering, I REALLY thought it would be simpler to contact models with 12 years' experience under my belt. Nope. Every single model is different from every single other model and the "rules" change every single time as well.

I would love to but I recon I would struggle to get a model to voluteer when they saw the huge amounts of mess they (like my poor wife) would have to be subjected to in one of my moveis. I think they would run a mile

Although I one of Messy Girls models or Ariel would probably give it a go

Any volunteers out there ladies

It's a combination of money, openness and experience.

It's hard to get someone who hasn't been asked before or been asked so many times, the right amount of money (or other benefits, like exposure/success) will always be a good sedative, unfortunately it's limited.
It's hard to get a good actress that will know what to do and that will be good looking.

When the gig sets them up with money or other, they will reply. when they will need to think about it, they will be less accessible.

If the first shoot won't go well, usually it's the last time (and there's a learning curve, pies gets everywhere, cream melts, it can sting the eyes).

I guess the approach determines the pool. because mainstream wam can be found and be done by most actors, which will act most mainstream things. it's the target market and the additional stuff that makes the difference.
using the "mainstream pool" feels like cheating and unethical to me.

While I wouldn't be hiring a model (as I already have quite a lovely and willing model of my own), the girlfriend and I have often talked about actually producing and selling our content. For us, at the moment, what's stopping us boils down to logistics, time, and anonymity.

My girlfriend and I don't live together at present - she lives in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and I live either at school on Long Island, or at my family home in the Capital Region - making logistics and finding room to film challenging. So during the times when we're actually together, we need to somehow find room to shoot in a house that isn't ours, while family is out working, and clean up before they get home! Hopefully that problem will be solved from this summer onwards and we'll have a small place of our own.

Time is self-explanatory. While my girlfriend was recently laid off from her job ( ), I'm still a full-time student. Shooting and editing take a big chunk out of time for both of us when we're busy with life.

As for anonymity, her and I would honestly love to just go fucking HAM and have our faces visible. But here my worries are twofold. While she is worried about job prospects, I'm additionally worried about international exposure. I recently studied abroad, and may end up living and working abroad after school. People in America can be uptight about plenty of things; abroad I can't imagine it'd be much better, if not possibly more risky. Hopefully being abroad would actually make things like that LESS likely to be found out, but in today's internet of things, you can't be too sure.

I'm certain that once we move in together, we'll be giving things a fresh look since much will have changed.

a message of hope for those worried about anonymity. I've had my face and various other parts of me all over the internet for 8 years, been on tv once and in a few magazines and a paper. Never once been recognised out and about or outed by anyone. Plenty of other sploshers I already knew saw those things, but obviously that's not a problem.

As I tend to wear a lot of make up and skimpy outfits for video I just go out without make up or tiny skirts or gunge on me and that's either a suitable disguise or just no one was even going to recognise me anyway. I suspect the latter

It's such a niche thing. Anyone seeing your pics will have had to know what wam is and be interested in it, and if that's the case they aren't going to out themselves by pointing you out.

Just make sure you don't use your facebook or RL pics anywhere on your fet profiles

Honestly for most fetish models all fetishes are equally "weird" if it's not your personal fetish. I don't understand how anyone gets off to me popping balloons with my feet or taking a sweatshirt off an on repeatedly but I am happy there are people out there who are willing to pay for it!

I'm still thinking about it. I was an amateur producer for 14 years and now find myself with nobody to photograph. Well, almost nobody. Both of my two short-lived ex-girlfriends were willing to jump in the mud for me, for fun, and have me film it.

There is a chance that if I am able to keep my house (long story) and do not have a girlfriend for the long-term by then I will look into hiring a friend or model to play in the mud for me. A lot of "if's" right now, though.
I am also not sure what kind of time I can devote to producing again. Shit, when I was half of a parenting team it was hard enough to keep up. Being a single parent equals SO much less free time, especially if I might rather spend that free time swooning a new potential mate rather than making videos to beat off to.
Guess there's a bit of been there/done that in my thinking. Just not sure if it's worth the effort to get involved again.

I've thought about it, but I can't work up the nerve to ask girls to do this.

Having a background in business I can say this:

It would be rather difficult for something of this to succeed here in my home province. Now granted I get that there's a large demand for jobs but if I'm going to do something like this, I'll need to diversify the product base to offer more than just WAM shoots.

I work with three talented photo interns and they say running a photography business is tough.

Mind you if I win this Friday's LottoMAX jackpot of $60 million dollars (which in Canada is tax free), I could look at establishing such a business with the liquid capital I would command.

This is gonna sound really weird, but I'm very shy. When I first started, I was really off-put by having to even post and email about this. Over time, this because less of an issue.

Every advancement I've made over time has been a struggle to make a better video, something guys want to see, and me getting up the nerve to even ask it. What if he says no? Ok, he says no. It's not the end of the world. What if he thinks it's weird? Than he thinks it's weird. Is it too weird for him to do at the rate I'm paying him? If yes, then this job isn't best for him. If no, he may think it's weird, but that cash he's getting is taking a lot of the weirdness out.

Money and space and time, Oh, My! Yes, it does take a lot of money. Specifically, for me, for the initial investment. There were a lot of things I didn't have that I needed, like a camcorder. (Yeah, you kinda need that to film things. Cell phone cameras just aren't gonna cut it.) I also got a website with a business email address that I can use, so I can hide my identity. Simply because if a model and I have a falling out, I want as little exposure as possible.

Space? Yeah, that's a bit of a problem. I've filmed a couple of 2-person things, and it's cramped. I also have to store the buckets, the materials for the next shooting (driving around town the night before to get the materials is for the birds), the costumes.

Time? Yeah, I'm not too great of a time manager. I have a really bad habit of starting to play video games, and never stopping til bed time. As a result, the night before a release, I may be up late getting everything ready. I've gotten better, working on releases through the month, and making sure they are ready to drop, 100%, on their release date. I've also discovered I have some time to learn new programs that I can use. I hope to be able to apply these programs to make new stuff.

The biggest hurdle was privacy. I have roommates, and I was keeping this secret for a while. One roommate thought I was just a whore. Was that a step up or a step down? Fortunately, my filming space is private enough that they just see guys coming and going, nothing more. Neither of the particularly care. One is even supportive enough to offer to make home-made crusts occasionally. The other is just "Whatevs".

If you feel splattering is right for you, then by all means, join the club. If not, then I will continue to splatter so you don't have to!

Not going to say I haven't thought about it but the main factors are:

1. Expense-the cash could be better spent in many different ways.
2. Hassle of finding the right models prepared to work within your budget. The smaller the city the harder they are to find.
3. Finding a suitable location for the shoot.
4. And the biggest one; effect on any current relationship/marriage. In effect whether clothed or not you are still making porn. personally I think its less of an issue than it was in the past but it is still a taboo subject and not easily raised with the most understanding of partners.

That said infinite respect to those who find a way around all of the above.