This actually plays into exactly what you said about women taking this stuff to heart etc. When I have been ASKED by a model if I have a preference I USED to say 'shaved' because my gut feel was it would sell better (now I say I don't care). Personally I have no particular preference and have never proactively asked a model to make any change of that nature. Like Trouso, due to my age I have never had a gf/partner/wife with a shaved bush.

I did feel bad at this most recent shoot when you said you were going to shave the bush as you 'knew I preferred it'. In fact, until you reminded me of it, I had no memory of the earlier conversation where you asked if I wanted you to shave, at all. Which does prove one of the points you made..that casual 'oh I've been asked an opinion so I'll answer it' comments by men, can be taken to heart and then worried over..even driving SOME women to make choices based on what they feel they ought to do rather than what they want to do. Which can't be good.

OP: The longer I have done this the more I have found that no-one can predict what will or won't sell. And certainly not from a UMD poll..given most of our customers never post or interact with the forums, so I would say go with your own preference. I stopped trying to please the 'market' about a year ago, and just shoot what I like, and am so much happier with my shoots since.

Oh..and just to tidy up the issue.... keeping your pubic hair is the healthier thing to do......

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2016/07July/Pages/Many-women-think-shaving-pubic-hair-is-hygienic.aspx

I am firmly in the camp that finds body hair in general gross and I honestly don't really see it as a sexist issue as I find it gross on men as well (myself included.) I keep ALL my body hair trimmed short with a hair clipper and keep the pubic hair even shorter. I also shave the balls and around the shaft. It is a tactile/sensation issue to me as I personally find the feeling of hair unpleasant.

Knowing how it feels to touch something really hairy I naturally am not going to be as attracted to images/videos of other people that are unkempt. I definitely prefer that a model be clean shaven or neatly trimmed and while I would prefer the women I date to be trimmed too I would never try to force her to do something if she was not comfortable. It is just a preference not a rule. I am sure y'all have preferences about whether a man has long or short hair or if he is overweight, tall/short etc.

I just don't see how it's automatically sexist to prefer a girl that's clean shaven as I know that I should keep myself trimmed too. I do not even like it when I let myself forget to shave my face or when my actual hair gets too long and looks too unkempt. I just like myself looking and more importantly *feeling* smooth and that preference naturally extends to my sexual interest as well.

People are into different things, it's ok to have a preference and it's ok to have different opinion from one another. The OP just asked a question about if people had a preference or not. Some do some and don't but I don't think it's fair belittling anyones preference or putting anyone down for a different opinion.

It is sexist to imply a woman "hasn't put in effort" and to judge her as stinky and unclean solely because she doesn't shave. Do you also believe a man who hasn't shaved his armpits, legs, and crotch probably smells and hasn't made enough effort?

It isn't automatically sexist to have a preference for no body hair and I take absolutely no issue with that. What is offensive is irrationally judging women's bodies and having antiquated expectations of what we should do with them.

Also, trimming your beard or combing your hair as man is an entirely different story to a woman being pressured and expected to be virtually hairless from the neck down, lest she be labeled smelly or lazy. That standard is hugely unbalanced and does not exist for men. I'm not sure how you can't see that shaming a woman for choosing to keep her hair god-given armpit hair, same as you probably do, is unfair and yes, sexist.

Oy, not this again?!?! This topic is as old and divisive as the shaving cream vs. real cream pie debate...

There is no way to predict your sales based on what very vocal, but non purchasing, users say in the forums.

People like what they like. Personally, I prefer to shave my legs daily and armpits maybe not so often (every other day?), but will always keep my bush intact, thanks. Not full 70's bush, but pretty natural otherwise. Once in awhile, though, I will confess that I dye it a fun color like pink or blue. (It gives me a cheap thrill, I guess.) It washes out in about 4-6 weeks. Maybe that's a new debate? Whether to color your bush or not, ha.

If people (men, too!) want to shave their bushes/man bushes, or pits, or legs, or backs, or beards, (or whatever else) that's awesome! If they don't want to, that's awesome, too!! Awesome as long as the decision is not JUST to please someone else, at the expense of their own comfort.

Here's some shameless self promotion in the form of a few pics of my own bush.


Mrs. Bee

For my part I keep ALL my body hair including my armpits and legs clipped *very* short with clippers and I shave my genital region too. I'm not saying some people may not have a double standard but I am saying not everyone does. If I see a BJ scene with an attractive woman but the dude has a fat hairy pot belly THAT will make me not buy the scene just as much as if the girl had an unkempt bush. It's not just about the girl.

I don't like body hair on women because I hate how it feels to the touch. I hate how it feels on myself. If I do not have time to trim my pubes I may not even masturbate until I have time to trim as I don't want to feel it rubbing against my hand. For some of us IT IS a preference and NOT a sexist anti-women thing.

Also if a man has long hair and a beard he could very well also be thought of as unclean and dirty (dirty hippy etc.) I just think big bushy pubes and lots of body hair is gross on EVERYONE, not just women. I feel like that part wasn't even read in my original post.

I would assume that if a woman wanted a guy to be fit and attractive without a bunch of disgusting back hair and stuff that it would not be sexist would it? Would a woman be sexist for not buying a scene if the male was overweight or had a bunch of back hair which most women I have spoken with find gross?

I think it's lazy for a guy not to be trimmed in a scene too and I FEEL lazy if I don't trim/shave for a week.

I think that we should either stop bickering with each other and get this conversation back on topic ("Does body hair influence your purchasing of a scene?"), or just have the thread closed. Nothing productive is going to come out of this if this keeps on in this fashion.

DarkSky, I don't take any issue with your personal preferences and as I said in the other post, I don't think for a minute that a distaste for body hair is inherently sexist. But couple it with some ignorant commentary about what natural body hair "implies" about a woman and a pretty obvious double standard, and that's a different story.

Anyway, Johnny's latest entry pretty much speaks for itself, in case you were still on the fence about the sexism.

I couldn't care less. I haven't had any first had experience of wamming with a partner though.

My Ex was very proud of not shaving/staying all natural but at the same time seemed frustrated by the fact that i wasn't shocked or somewhat put off by her body hair. Figure that one out.

What a douche bag. I'm out of there this. Fuck it. I said my piece.

I've never understood this.

You're getting to see another human being of, presumably, whichever gender you're into, naked. Call me immature, but I'm still almost as excited about that as I was when I was a teenager. Who quibbles about minor details of personal grooming?