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"Unpopular WAM opinions"
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mongoose said: This site is being overrun by people into watersports and Alpo
Not just this site. Seen quite a few piss, scat and ABDL folks popping up in other WAM spaces.
All flesh is equal when gunged.
VanillaXSlime said:
Not just this site. Seen quite a few piss, scat and ABDL folks popping up in other WAM spaces.
mongoose said: This site is being overrun by people into watersports and Alpo
Not just this site. Seen quite a few piss, scat and ABDL folks popping up in other WAM spaces.
To be honest that's been a problem since the days of usenet, as "Wet And Messy" can be interpreted a variety of ways. The original wish was for a newsgroup for "sploshing" which would have been more descriptive but various ubergeeks had a problem with that being too close to the name of Splosh! magazine, and there were rules about not naming newsgroups after commercial entities, hence wet-and-messy as a fallback, which gave us WAM as the acronym, and confusion has reigned ever since.
Not seen much mention of watersports here, other than a couple of posts in this thread saying it should be included, which were answered (by me) as "won't happen, billing companies would shut the site down if we allowed it."
If you do encounter what you think might be piss or scat content anywhere on UMD, use the Report links (thumbs-down symbol in some places) to flag it to admin, we'll nuke anything that is (or appears to be) that kind of content, as it's absolutely not allowed here.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
CKCP said: I don't like self-wamming. I am a pie fan and a woman pieing herself does not do it for me.
Skirt, nice blouse, nice shoes, etc. easily beats a bikini or nudity in my book
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
NOT ME. I like the simple stuff and I see it getting buried under the more extreme stuff. I am like that audiophile friend of yours who seeks out rare vinyl LPs regardless of the sound quality. This is why I love mainstream WAM, even though it is pretty disappointing a lot of the time. There is an "innocence" quality to it-- i.e., it is not being made for us here on UMD to get our jollies. And look, I can't blame producers. They have to make what sells and, as that ratchet moves up, the race is on to produce something that satisfies raised expectations of humiliation, mess, hardcore porn, etc.
Skirt, nice blouse, nice shoes, etc. easily beats a bikini or nudity in my book
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
NOT ME. I like the simple stuff and I see it getting buried under the more extreme stuff. I am like that audiophile friend of yours who seeks out rare vinyl LPs regardless of the sound quality. This is why I love mainstream WAM, even though it is pretty disappointing a lot of the time. There is an "innocence" quality to it-- i.e., it is not being made for us here on UMD to get our jollies. And look, I can't blame producers. They have to make what sells and, as that ratchet moves up, the race is on to produce something that satisfies raised expectations of humiliation, mess, hardcore porn, etc.
That is why I love vintage and retro WAM.
A well dressed 1940s woman getting messed up by a guy, is better to me than some of the recent stuff.
Not keen on self WAM, or shaving foam.
Being told i cant wear a nappy when i wam because its not ab site, plp only likeing there type of clothing or woman, wam is in cloths that fun t shirt, cueasl wear do nothing for me but they do for others. I like school uniform doest mean im into kids its just wat i wore when i sarted wam
getemdown said:
That is why I love vintage and retro WAM.
A well dressed 1940s woman getting messed up by a guy, is better to me than some of the recent stuff.
Not keen on self WAM, or shaving foam.
CKCP said: I don't like self-wamming. I am a pie fan and a woman pieing herself does not do it for me.
Skirt, nice blouse, nice shoes, etc. easily beats a bikini or nudity in my book
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
NOT ME. I like the simple stuff and I see it getting buried under the more extreme stuff. I am like that audiophile friend of yours who seeks out rare vinyl LPs regardless of the sound quality. This is why I love mainstream WAM, even though it is pretty disappointing a lot of the time. There is an "innocence" quality to it-- i.e., it is not being made for us here on UMD to get our jollies. And look, I can't blame producers. They have to make what sells and, as that ratchet moves up, the race is on to produce something that satisfies raised expectations of humiliation, mess, hardcore porn, etc.
Skirt, nice blouse, nice shoes, etc. easily beats a bikini or nudity in my book
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
NOT ME. I like the simple stuff and I see it getting buried under the more extreme stuff. I am like that audiophile friend of yours who seeks out rare vinyl LPs regardless of the sound quality. This is why I love mainstream WAM, even though it is pretty disappointing a lot of the time. There is an "innocence" quality to it-- i.e., it is not being made for us here on UMD to get our jollies. And look, I can't blame producers. They have to make what sells and, as that ratchet moves up, the race is on to produce something that satisfies raised expectations of humiliation, mess, hardcore porn, etc.
That is why I love vintage and retro WAM.
A well dressed 1940s woman getting messed up by a guy, is better to me than some of the recent stuff.
Not keen on self WAM, or shaving foam.
What about nappy with ur clothes when getting wet messy
I love protective clothing. Goggles, rainwear, wellies, swimcaps. Filling it is great of course, but I'm fine if the mess stays on the outside too! Something great about a gal pulling off her goggles, and having two big clean patches around her eyes, or taking off her swimcap and her hair being the only clean part of her! 
Custard is the spawn of the devil.
Always start with the pies. ALWAYS.
If you gonna start with the gunge/slime and then I don't care about the pies anymore.
If you gonna start with the gunge/slime and then I don't care about the pies anymore.
[Quote]CKCP said:
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
That's kinda true for me. Like first Human Garbage Disposal scene was like an amazing novelty. but now Human Garbage Disposal is the baseline for me. pie in the face or basic sliming is like nothing.
I apologize for nothing
scroggle said: CKCP said:
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
That's kinda true for me. Like first Human Garbage Disposal scene was like an amazing novelty. but now Human Garbage Disposal is the baseline for me. pie in the face or basic sliming is like nothing.
OK. Here is the big one. I was going to start a separate post on it but I don't think it would get any traction. WAM has gotten too extreme. Porn and, this applies to WAM, is kinda like a ratchet. It only goes one way-- up. Once folks get inured to something, they crave something a little more over the top. So, back in the day, a pretty girl getting a nice pie in the face was great for us pie fans, but now? With HD cameras, forums like this one, and more models willing to take this work, that is not enough for a lot of us. We need the model nude now. The humiliation is not enough-- can you have the pie be something gross? What if we tied her up? I think she should be masturbating with a huge dildo while getting pied and covered with condiments. You see? The pie in the face (or the slime over the head, or the mud wrestling in bikinis, etc.) is no longer quite enough to get you there, so the ratchet goes up a notch.
That's kinda true for me. Like first Human Garbage Disposal scene was like an amazing novelty. but now Human Garbage Disposal is the baseline for me. pie in the face or basic sliming is like nothing.
I do not find this to be true for me. I like what I like and someone making content with dog food or fish guts to serve whatever disordered impulse they are afflicted with does not move me an inch toward enjoying such content.
Then again, I have never understood the "humiliation" angle that so many here seem to be so enthusiastic about. For me, WAM is tactile, visual and playful. I cannot grasp how something that someone willingly participates in is "humiliating".
Now, if I make my girl pay the pizza delivery guy with a load of my cum on her face, or "slut" written on her forehead in lipstick I understand that may be humiliating to her
vis-vis the pizza guy, but if I push her face into a cake while doing her doggie-style that's an act of trust, passion and vulnerability.
Andorian said:
I do not find this to be true for me. I like what I like and someone making content with dog food or fish guts to serve whatever disordered impulse they are afflicted with does not move me an inch toward enjoying such content.
I do not find this to be true for me. I like what I like and someone making content with dog food or fish guts to serve whatever disordered impulse they are afflicted with does not move me an inch toward enjoying such content.
I fully agree with this. I think the Dogfood slime go past a line of good taste and should not be considered WAM. It's totally heretical.
I apologize for nothing
screen_name said: Custard is the spawn of the devil.
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm curious as to how you've come to feel that strongly.
Not all wam should have nudity
All wam should have feet content
PERIODT.
All wam should have feet content
PERIODT.
andyj73 said: What a great discussion
- not a great fan of red gunge or slime (makes it look like a horror movie)
- not a great fan of red gunge or slime (makes it look like a horror movie)
agree! not even for pies....red looks like blood.... big no no
scroggle said:
I fully agree with this. I think the Dogfood slime go past a line of good taste and should not be considered WAM. It's totally heretical.
Andorian said:
I do not find this to be true for me. I like what I like and someone making content with dog food or fish guts to serve whatever disordered impulse they are afflicted with does not move me an inch toward enjoying such content.
I do not find this to be true for me. I like what I like and someone making content with dog food or fish guts to serve whatever disordered impulse they are afflicted with does not move me an inch toward enjoying such content.
I fully agree with this. I think the Dogfood slime go past a line of good taste and should not be considered WAM. It's totally heretical.
I think this kind of comment is a bit too kink-shamy. Plenty of people might see "regular" WAMmers as wrong or disordered too.
I do agree though, in that I think really disgusting mess is a whole different category from other forms of WAM, and it massively turns me off.
greencords said:
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm curious as to how you've come to feel that strongly.
screen_name said: Custard is the spawn of the devil.
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm curious as to how you've come to feel that strongly.
I'm just totally grossed out by the stuff- combine a very sickly sweet smell/taste with pungent artificial vanilla flavouring (I do not like vanilla to begin with) and it's just total nasty for me.
There was a few custard scenes I used to find very sexy, so I figured I'd try the stuff. Brought a small carton into my small windowless ensuite shower with me to test out.
Poured it in my bra/down my front and was immediately overpowered by the very intense smell/taste.
It took less than 30 seconds between "turned on and gagging for it" to diving straight in the freezing cold shower (mid winter) while choking/dry heaving trying desperately to keep my lunch down.
Used about a can of deodorant and left my window open all night (mid February!) to make the place breathable again.
Now- I can't even enjoy those sexy custard scenes since I'm just reminded how nasty the smell is.
[I am not allergic- it is just the total gross out factor]
