I was wondering, do you have any opinions that many others on here would disagree with?

If so, what are they?

For me, as I've said before, I really don't like the "I don't know" bit and think it needs to be, if not retired, at least given a break for a while

Think I've got loads.

- pie sandwiches are usually a waste of two pies
- anything covering the mouth, such as ball gags, all but ruins the scene
- savoury should be avoided completely

Not massive on slime personally, also not keen on nudity, like clothes getting messed up

This miserable bastard's time to shine!

-There is such a thing as too much WAM. After maybe the fourth or fifth pie in the face, you're just pieing pie. Similarly, I don't see the point of "pie for every reply" and other marathon-style videos.
-A lot of "sexy" costumes just look weird and ugly. Even if WAM videos are for the male gaze, I think a lot of producers would do well to outsource wardrobe opinions to those more familiar with the female form.
-If we ever see another WAM video where it's just someone sitting in a dirty bathroom bathtub it'll be too soon.
-Panty filling...kinda pointless. I love clothes filling, but most panty filling beats are like trying to fill a shot glass with a fire hose.
-This one mostly applies to a producer who isn't welcome anymore, but during "tit-for-tat food fight" videos, that one beat where all the action stops for one person to randomly turn around and bend over while the other person pours slime over their (clothed) lower back and ass is the most baffling goddamn thing I've ever seen. It took what was supposed to be an adversarial concept and suddenly made it sexy...but not very sexy.

This will probably turn into a "things I like and don't like" thread, but here goes:

- Shaving cream is great for shaving, not for WAM. It produces TOO much coverage, and you lose the playful fun of licking and eating the mess.

- I would rather watch a well-acted "nervous but exhilarated" reaction from a model with no script than buy any scripted scenario. That's why "WAM virgin" content is so highly prized, but even that's hit or miss (if she's not having a good time, I'm not having a good time). I'd love to see veteran models act a range of genuine-looking reactions in unscripted or lightly-scripted scenarios.

- Not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I'm surprised that few producers have leaned into the Pie Pod/Wash/Slide (even simulated) in their content. Yes, I know it's not trivial to build, but as a US millennial who had cable in the early '90s any content like that is an insta-buy. It's our gunge tank.

I've never really understood the sexual appeal of pies in the face, when it's only pies in the face.

WAM to me is primarily about seeing someone get messy fully dressed. I can also understand the appeal of romping in mud or food or gunge stark naked, though it doesn't do anything for me personally I can totally get how amazing it will be for people who like to be naked or see others naked, and the sensations as everyone slithers against each other.

I can get face-pieing as part of an overall messy obliteration, in that kind of scenario I prefer it kept till the end so we can see the person's expression as the rest of them is messed up first, but I can see how it can be used to start the process too, and indeed I've filmed scenes like that, and the girls had a lot of fun with them.

But pieing someone in the face, but otherwise leaving them un-messed, as sometimes happens in mainstream clips, I just don't see the appeal. I gather I'm something of an outlier in this.

I think it comes down to which mainstream content got you into this. For example, if you like those kinds of "how dare you?" comeuppance scenarios, you probably started off with movie/TV comedy content. Those of us who like more genuine (seeming), less scripted content come from game shows.

Shaving cream really does not do it for me. Really closer than soap than anything else, so kind of the opposite of getting messy. Also, as already pointed out you have to careful not to get it in your mouth or eyes.

Totally agree! I see some stuff and it's like..."Oh man I'd never wear that, it looks ridiculous!"


To be fair, I think if you had female anatomy, you'd find it a lot more exciting. The sensation of things against my labia (and then the mess starting to push up into my vagina) is where the fun really starts! It's like foreplay

Nudity is overrated
Most of the girls can't act, writers can't write
Most self pies and self slimes are not worth it
Out in nature is waaaay better than a hotel room.

That comment, Justine, might just be one of the best things my eyes have ever read on this forum.

There is no formal definition of "gunge" vs "slime." They're not terms of art and it's not that important. Americans saying "gunge" is weird. If you need to be precise, just say what the slime is made of (i.e. cellulose or oatmeal, etc)

For me, two things:
1) A post showing messy feet. What is that all about!
2) A post with over 30 pics of which at least three quarters show totally clean pics. It takes ages to scroll down for very few messy pics. Quality please over quantity.

My hates:

When someone films exactly the same stuff time after time, with a different model each time.

When everyone books from the same handful of models.

When you see an obviously uncomfortable model because her boyfriend/husband is pushing her into being filmed.

Travelodge videos.

Mud is not WAM. Yup I said it, I know the mud lovers will come out in droves against this. Yes it is wet and yes it is still messy from a certain point of view. However, to me WAM is something in the your not meant to do this kind of area. That food play and clothed swimming is a form of rebellion against the norm. They have a whole industry built on relaxing people and overpaying to have mud smeared on their bodies. Romping around in the mud is more socially accepted than the other facets of WAM. However, that line gets crossed when it becomes sexualized. That introduces a little bit of the rebellion to it. Nobody turns a head if you are riding around in an ATV or a side by side and you get all muddy. In some places, coming home with your vehicle drenched in mud is a badge of honor. Nobody assumes that anything sexual was done if you go mudding. There is no sense of wondering what people are thinking when you talk about going mudding or when you come home muddy. But, when you are in a grocery store and buy out their stock in cool whip, pudding and pie tins. I think there is enough of a hint out there that something devious might be happening. You might get the knowing nod from the cashier or other people in line. Maybe a little smirk or a flushed look from people who would love to do what you are doing but are not quite brave enough.

- bathing suits and bikinis being worn for wetlook is stupid. Messy is better, but someone getting dunked in a bikini or going swimming in a bikini is literally just using it for the intended purpose.

- the person who did it is no longer in this site but I hated when a scene had like 10000 images because they would take 20 shots of the model hitting the same pose and would upload all of them.

When lingerie or underwear (talkin' females) is shown, 99% of the time, it's BLACK ('cause the 'color' black is supposed to indicate 'naughtiness' or be more 'sexy', somehow), or, lately, sometimes even a HORRID gray color (like dull/flat gray underwear is supposed to be novel, or more visually appealing?)...no imagination or refined taste (some exceptions with sheer lace black panties). Women's lingerie is SO varied and colorful, (camisoles, bras, panties, etc.) and designed to be visually and sensually (tactile) alluring...why not exploit the visual appeal of white, pink, lavender, blue, red, even green or yellow...with lace or frills (or other feminine touches) to enhance the wam effect? That goes for thongs too; an occasional thong is fine, not all the time, every time.WAM is a 'special event' in my book, so, I always sought to make a video more special with sensual, retro/classic, or fancy lingerie/underwear.

Thanks for saving me some time!

Any scene that doesn't involve complete facial coverage is a wasted scene

The goal of a pie in her face should be to get everything, crust included, stuck to her face

Shaving cream and self pies are great and usually lead to better results than what you get with real pies

Ridiculously colorful pies are weird and unappealing

Pies and slime together in scenes. Do one or the other, not both.

Any mainstream non fetish-produced content would be one or the other.

Sitting in a chair nude or wearing just a bikni is nothing exciting.

Messy clothes are exciting!!!! Seeing how the mess soaks through the clothes especially when the mess is filled in the back of a pencil skirt or a nice pair of slacks.

No shaving cream. It disolves and doesn't stay messy. Plus on impact it drowns out the face.

No pies and slime. Pies only with dessert toppings like whipped cream, pudding or chocolate sauce.

Dog food isn't wam

The "damsel in distress who can't escape the quicksand and is going under" trope is disturbing in and of itself, and that it
is erotic to anyone is even more disturbing.

I feel yah both from the play point of view I can imagine it being a less than pleasant addition for those reasons. But... hear me out here... when it mixes with gunge, especially methylcellulose, it makes a SUPER interesting texture and can make for some very visually appealing swirls, plus it smells rather nice. It works well for me visually creatively to mix with slime, but I probably wouldn't use it on its own.

I agree with the first two of those. I'd add masks and anything that covers the eyes to #2.

My opinion is that a cake can be better than a pie, and canned squirty cream is great for pies.

I like the look after a single pie, when the model wipes the area around her eyes and opens them.

More than three pies gets to be overkill. I'd rather see a new model/outfit at that point.

Slime is OK, but only when it first starts covering the face.

"Full coverage" just hides who's underneath. Why bother with a model if they're going to look like a lump of potatoes covered in pea soup?

I like it when WAM amounts look similar to the less lame mainstream amounts: was this person in a food fight? Was carrying a cake and did a faceplant? These are great amounts.

I hate when the clothes or body is messed up before the first pie in the face. I want to imagine a foodfight on mainstream TV.

This thread isn't about opinions, it's about unpopular opinions.

Peeplay should be included on this site because:

No expensive props or supplies
No food waste/guilt
Gateway drug to other WAM / less "weird" than food
100% natural
Great Indoors or outdoors
Still feels naughty/deviant
% of current WAM models would crossover
We keep download profits/audience supporting this site/our producers
Underrepresented in popular culture
Wet is wet
Better than AI WAM, but could be segregated on site in similar way

Why should Bruce and Morgan have all the fun?

Well can't say I don't agree with ya

How about red with black velvet trim high cut bra and panty sets? LOL

My unpopular opinion:
every non-toxic, non-harmful substance can be used in WAM.

No matter how gross it is or from where it comes from (you know what i'm talking about) as long as you end your WAM session clean and healthy as you started and (hopefully) happier than before

You all can now hate me

Sticking to the topic of 'unpopular' opinions:

Barefoot WAM (Ugh!) Heels should be the last thing to come off, if at all. WAM should go against the conditioning of not getting your best shoes dirty.

Shaving foam. No. Does nothing for me. Neither wet nor messy. Aside from the noble art of slosh in its appropriate home on the STAGE, of course.

Casual clothing. Why?

Vibrators/full on sex acts. I like sex but I've never understood the appeal of watching other people having sex or being turned on in photos or on film. It just looks weird.

There's nothing worse than someone off camera telling a model how to react. Let them react naturally.

Oh, and "look up" is a terrible reaction.