I have a question to ask the fans of our shoots and WAM shoots in general.
Is a male appearance in a WAM shoot a buzz kill? Such as arm shots and upper torsos with no face showing. Basically what I've been doing for 20 plus years. Would you rather have a female assistant (Alana) (Leah) dish out the mess in the same manner? Does it matter at all either way?
Yes, Amy's boobs are real, and they are spectacular.
A very aspect for me of wam is to be watched by anyone. It adds humiliation. I prefer a woman, but if I have to choose between non one and a male, I pick a male.
In general I prefer to see a female doing the messing, even if it's just an arm - I think in some of the early Messygirl shoots Leah's arm dished out the mess to Amber, Sara etc and I thought that was great. It's by no means a deal breaker for me though - and you do have a very accurate pie-throwing arm Mr MG!
I'd prefer the mess to be dished out by another woman, but it's not a deal-breaker. In fact, I think MG films get the balance just right. A clean (female) model gunging the messy one is shown in full, which is great, whereas you personally stay out of shot, or at least half out of it, when you're throwing the pies. All of that suits me just fine
A slight male presence doesn't ruin it for me, but a guy getting messy in a film does. I think y'all's strike a good balance with you staying out of frame for the most part. My personal preference would be for another lovey lady to apply the mess, or the model to self-wam, but a very slight male presence doesn't ruin a film for me.
Mr_MG, I must say that IMHO it very much depends on the context and what is visible... I have never found that the occasional glimpses of a male "stage hand" WAMming a female model is an issue for me, provided it is clear that the focus is on the model... In fact in some "Torture WAM" videos, it may well suit the script for it to very obviously be a male groping a female model whilst WAMming her (the last pic is a perfect example of this). I think I would be more likely to have an issue with it if there was unnecessary & in particular "gratuitous" footage of the "stage hand", e.g. they walk between the model & camera showing a "builders bum" etc.
Clearly the obvious exception to the above would be a WAM Blow-job video, where clearly a guy's penis will be visible... but then a purchaser would be expecting that as it's pretty much implied in the description!
I certainly dont have a problem with any of the examples you have posted - indeed I quite enjoy the random "groping" of her boobs - it adds to the humiliation side for me
I actually think there isn't enough males punishing women with face on camera. I like seeing a man mess up a woman for some come kind of payback e.g like the pie girl video but the roles reversed.
Haven't seen any videos like that before, if there was I would certainly be interested!
Situation specific for me. If it's an anonymous arm smushing pies,or a session where the girl either gives as good as she gets, or it devolves into sexual co-wamming, it's NBD. In your own shoots, MrMG, I don't even really see you - I just care what part of the girls body is getting smushed down on you at any given time. Nothing personal, dude.
If it's a video where girls are getting messy in some low budget location, and you're constantly getting distracted by what sounds like some creepy old trucker, 30 years older than the models, muttering lazy direction out of the side of his mouth? Yeah, I fucking hate that. (Maybe I hate the percieved power dynamics. Maybe I think there should be a model/producer age range cap. Maybe I just hate shitty audio work? Either way.)
I prefer a male messing up a female and staying clean in the process, with an emphasis on silly comical humiliation as opposed to overtly sexualised touching.
I will echo the majority on this thread: I prefer a female thrower, but a male thrower is not a problem for me. Overall, a male thrower to me is no better or worse than a totally unseen thrower. Sometimes the male thrower is better than an invisible assailant, when there's some plotline that gives a good reason for him to be pieing the model.
(Reluctantly) serious answer: Not a deal breaker for me, and if it is for you, damn, guys, chill.
A female thrower is nice but if it raises the price of the video because you're paying a model who stays clean, uh, don't do that! The Regemeister is always happy to step in with his dainty feminine hands, free of charge.
The more salient point may be that I don't care much about this because I'm more likely to buy a two-girl scene than a one-girl one.
Bishopberkley said: I prefer a male messing up a female and staying clean in the process, with an emphasis on silly comical humiliation as opposed to overtly sexualised touching.
Agree with this and it is very rare to non-existant in producers' material. I also wouldn't mind a tit for tat between a man and a woman (again, don't see it that often if it all). You sometimes see this type of thing in mainstream material. Will seem odd to most folks but I do not care to see messy sex.
Bishopberkley said: I prefer a male messing up a female and staying clean in the process, with an emphasis on silly comical humiliation as opposed to overtly sexualised touching.
Agree with this and it is very rare to non-existant in producers' material. I also wouldn't mind a tit for tat between a man and a woman (again, don't see it that often if it all). You sometimes see this type of thing in mainstream material.
Have you SEEN our stuff?? Particularly the old stuff?.....
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