Okay....what I mean is..... I do and HAVE kept it pretty REAL here on the forums. Almost ALWAYS. There have been times here and there I have wanted to say some shit but I did not....because I am trying to keep my business going. I mean, this is my one and only source of income. So, some shit? You just dont say.
I do, although, keep my personal life pretty open.....I keep the behind the scenes stuff pretty open and if someone asks or makes a comment....I, of course am super thankful! I also allow that to be a time they really get to know me....what I was thinking, feeling, etc.
Some people do not like my honesty. at all. Sometimes, being honest? is like, the only way I feel like I can show you all I respect you enough to do so....and let me in on my life....I know a lot of people here have their one persona they bring to the umd. I have me, I have me and my fetish, I have me as a mom, me the person, all of me.....HERE for you all.
does this take away from the fantasy for you? I am here bc i love what I do. I feel like a big family to share it with. Make some money to live.....and honestly? Im a single mom who is now doing nothing but homeschool (i did not have a choice) and driving to therapies constantly and trying to hold it together. a lot is really hard for me right now and this place is my escape, too. you all. sharing and making me laugh.
but, for my business sake? I can keep all my "real ness" on my only fans if this is something that takes away from the allure of the fetish model persona. I can never go full on, completely distant....but I can back off a bit.
thoughts? ideas? i love yall. thanks for 11 years of love. my profile says different bc i had to change it completely first year or so in.....but......yep. 11 years this month! thank you for letting my freak flag fly here....but if i need it at half mast? yep. i need to know!
Jayce said: Okay....what I mean is..... I do and HAVE kept it pretty REAL here on the forums. Almost ALWAYS. There have been times here and there I have wanted to say some shit but I did not....because I am trying to keep my business going. I mean, this is my one and only source of income. So, some shit? You just dont say.
I do, although, keep my personal life pretty open.....I keep the behind the scenes stuff pretty open and if someone asks or makes a comment....I, of course am super thankful! I also allow that to be a time they really get to know me....what I was thinking, feeling, etc.
Some people do not like my honesty. at all. Sometimes, being honest? is like, the only way I feel like I can show you all I respect you enough to do so....and let me in on my life....I know a lot of people here have their one persona they bring to the umd. I have me, I have me and my fetish, I have me as a mom, me the person, all of me.....HERE for you all.
does this take away from the fantasy for you? I am here bc i love what I do. I feel like a big family to share it with. Make some money to live.....and honestly? Im a single mom who is now doing nothing but homeschool (i did not have a choice) and driving to therapies constantly and trying to hold it together. a lot is really hard for me right now and this place is my escape, too. you all. sharing and making me laugh.
but, for my business sake? I can keep all my "real ness" on my only fans if this is something that takes away from the allure of the fetish model persona. I can never go full on, completely distant....but I can back off a bit.
thoughts? ideas? i love yall. thanks for 11 years of love. my profile says different bc i had to change it completely first year or so in.....but......yep. 11 years this month! thank you for letting my freak flag fly here....but if i need it at half mast? yep. i need to know!
This is just me and my opinion, but I find the honesty and realness refreshing and I personally would rather that, otherwise sometimes what's being said can sound overly or obviously fake or like it's being spit out of a random comment generator for lack of a better example lol also, and maybe it's just for wam and the umd specifically, I feel like it's a smaller community in the grand scheme of things (just feels that way to me, I could be totally wrong on this) but the better people get know each other for who they really are, I feel like can only be a good or more positive thing
Again this is all just my opinion, I'm sure there's ppl that may feel the exact opposite, which is fine, not saying I'm right and they're wrong, it's all opinion, but just keep doin you, pretty sure it's working just by your longevity alone lol
I'm not sure why sharing what is going on in your personal life would hurt your sales.. for me it makes you more real and I like that a lot. I know that when the day finally comes I'll do a session it will be with you and Ariel, because I feel I know you for a long time and the real life Jayce matches the image I have.
For the people your realness offends, (that must be a very small number) I'm not sure if they represent a real loss of sales?
If you are trying to find an answer to explain lower sales, it's probably very complexe reason. For my part my wam spending has turned to membership site that offer streaming. I dont download and store videos anymore.. the computer is shared at my place.. so streaming on my phone for me.. I wonder how long lasting producers/models do to kept the sales up? Most of them have model diversity to keep a rotation and keep bring new commer . If we take a look at messy girl Leah. She did lots of modeling but then took expension to be a producer with many models. The answer you are looking for might be to grow the business?
Jayce said: Okay....what I mean is..... I do and HAVE kept it pretty REAL here on the forums. Almost ALWAYS. There have been times here and there I have wanted to say some shit but I did not....because I am trying to keep my business going. I mean, this is my one and only source of income. So, some shit? You just dont say.
I do, although, keep my personal life pretty open.....I keep the behind the scenes stuff pretty open and if someone asks or makes a comment....I, of course am super thankful! I also allow that to be a time they really get to know me....what I was thinking, feeling, etc.
Some people do not like my honesty. at all. Sometimes, being honest? is like, the only way I feel like I can show you all I respect you enough to do so....and let me in on my life....I know a lot of people here have their one persona they bring to the umd. I have me, I have me and my fetish, I have me as a mom, me the person, all of me.....HERE for you all.
does this take away from the fantasy for you? I am here bc i love what I do. I feel like a big family to share it with. Make some money to live.....and honestly? Im a single mom who is now doing nothing but homeschool (i did not have a choice) and driving to therapies constantly and trying to hold it together. a lot is really hard for me right now and this place is my escape, too. you all. sharing and making me laugh.
but, for my business sake? I can keep all my "real ness" on my only fans if this is something that takes away from the allure of the fetish model persona. I can never go full on, completely distant....but I can back off a bit.
thoughts? ideas? i love yall. thanks for 11 years of love. my profile says different bc i had to change it completely first year or so in.....but......yep. 11 years this month! thank you for letting my freak flag fly here....but if i need it at half mast? yep. i need to know!
Jayce you sharing just adds to how Awsome and fun your work is Allow yourself your body mind and spirit before anyone else gets to see or experience it first give yourself Jayce back
I think it's good to understand a bit more about the person behind the model, so I think your openness is a good thing I completely appreciate there is a line to be drawn in that each model will have a different idea on what they will share and each person has the right to keep as much or as little private as possible.
I have only shot one scene with you and Ariel but it was amazing and you'll be pleased to hear that I still watch it and love it today. Not every scene stands that test of time so it's a big compliment to you guys
I think it would be a sad thing if you only shared your thoughts with your Only Fans audience so please do keep sharing away on here
You are you. You hit on something that really struck a nerve with me because it is how I feel too. When you say being honest is the only way to show us you respect us. That is how I live my life. I am blunt and honest with people to a fault. Sometimes my straight forwardness offends people in my workplace. But I tell them I respect them too much to beat around the bush. I HATE that shit!!! That is something I like about you is that you share on here. This is where we all get together and chat. The fantasy happens in the video or the pictures. If you cannot separate the fantasy from the real person that is on you not the model. You are our tribe. As a tribe we need to be there for each other. If shit is real and you need a place to vent that is what this is for. This is a place where you decide who you want to be. Do you want to be a persona or do you want to be you. But part of that freedom is also allowing others that same right, to come on here and be who they want to be. To not buy from someone because shit gets a little too real, has nothing to do with the producer and everything to do with the person buying.
I'm a fan of yours, including real, and I think everyone else is as well. It's better to keep it that way, because that's your personality and your charm. And congratulations on your 11th anniversary!
I love your honesty Jayce. Your personality is very hot.
I really get off on the humiliation aspect of wam and an emotionless barbie doll cannot be humiliated. I want to see someone that I can respect and empathize with willingly degrade themselves for my enjoyment. Smart, interesting, emotionally available models do the most for me.
The one thing that is for sure in your videos, is the obvious way that you show how much you love getting messy. I just love that we are privileged enough to only ever see the real you, and Ariel.
There are lots of other sites and models out there that is comes across as they are only doing it for the money and that is a total turnoff for me. No personality, just stand there and take the pies. Humiliation doesn't do it for me, seeing a sexy lady really enjoying herself does.
When I see your work I just think to myself that you could be the girl next door who I get on so well with and have the occasional amazing messy session with. If only that were true! The fact that you are so real makes you an amazing person. We are so lucky to have you on here with us.
I like it, I think it's fun. Interesting to see what people are up to...plus I guess when you think about it, it's an even better fantasy...instead of "aloof model does sexy stuff," it's more like "regular homeschool mom does sexy stuff." That's what porn TRIES to fake all the time!
Again just an opinion. Sex and Sexuality is mostly a fantasy, the reality can be as good but not usually as good. So I think it good to have a persona that is also a bit of a fantasy. Make it real and its no longer a fantasy, that's why couples sex needs spicing up after a while. There is sex, really great sex and then is porn star sex, the latter being for show, its still fun, but for the voyeur in us. As an example my ex used to like me throat fucking her on the side of the bed, me standing, a common porn star move. It did absolutely nothing for me, not even sure she loved to to be sure. The point is visually it probably looked good, and as producers we are selling a fantasy, so I believe its important to keep the fantasy up.
Well, the way I see it and the way I like it is... honesty, simply like this.
If I ask or I look for model info, I want to know the truth...
I'm a grown up person who can understand that what most of models do is fake. The tricky thing is act well, and make me think for some time that is real. And you and Ariel do that just perfect!! I addore your videos. They look real to me and that it is what is important!!
I wish you the best luck and I hope to produce more videos with you in the future!! You are the best spitting model around!!!
Treat it like a first date. No talking about politics or religion. The (mostly) anything else is fair game. Just you being you. Unless WAM is your religion, then things will get complicated.
I think when it comes to models like you or Creamy or MewMew there's a greater bond that we all share because you're actually wammers like the rest of us, as opposed to many others where its just a job. We enjoy the same crazy fetish which on some level makes us more honest with each other than many of those we're closest to IRL.
The Man and The Wife said: Treat it like a first date. No talking about politics or religion. The (mostly) anything else is fair game. Just you being you. Unless WAM is your religion, then things will get complicated.
Co-sign
Concord said: I think when it comes to models like you or Creamy or MewMew there's a greater bond that we all share because you're actually wammers like the rest of us, as opposed to many others where its just a job. We enjoy the same crazy fetish which on some level makes us more honest with each other than many of those we're closest to IRL.
I'm not sure I even understand the question. When I watch one of your videos I might be thinking "god I wish that were me" but there is no part of me, not even the smallest, that is entertaining the possibility that it ever could be me. There's no fantasy there that's capable of being punctured by knowledge of your true self.
wam_guevara said: If you are trying to find an answer to explain lower sales, it's probably very complexe reason. For my part my wam spending has turned to membership site that offer streaming.
Me, I took an hours cut at work. I don't really have a wam budget at the moment.
The Man and The Wife said: Treat it like a first date. No talking about politics or religion.
Not that I've ever dated, but wouldn't it be more useful to get politics out of the way right up front? Like forget the first date, filter that shit out before you even agree to meet. Last thing I want to do is waste my time getting to know someone and then it turns out they don't think poor people deserve clean water.
I don't post on here often, but I felt compelled to reply to this.
I can understand, slightly, why someone might feel that knowing the personal side of you makes it difficult to order customs from you. If you're asked to do something with, for example, a strong humiliation aspect, it might be something that we may not feel comfortable putting a loved partner through. If you're just a profile on a forum offering that service, then it's easy to block out that you're a real person with real feelings. Once that wall comes down, then I guess people may feel uncomfortable asking you to produce those things.
However, you do one or two customs for me a year, you have done for the last decade. There are two reasons why that happens.
1) The quality is magnificent and the value for money is fair. But more importantly than that,
2) I like you, as a person. We have spoken, at length, about all sorts of stuff. When we've lost family members/friends, problems with kids, health concerns etc. This makes you relatable. You aren't just someone who produces my customs, you're a real woman with a real life. I like that I think that way about you, and when I want my next custom, I'd rather have it from someone like you who I like, know, and trust, rather than someone I know nothing about.
We all like to get things done by people we know. If you've got a mate who's a roofer, or a gas fitter, then you go to them before you go to market. I treat my custom requests in the same way, but maybe not everyone does. But, basing it on nothing but my own intuition, I would suspect the regular customers you have gained through your openness and honesty, far outweighs what you might lose through people who wish they didn't know you as well, in order to feel more comfortable treating you less well.
"This makes you relatable. You aren't just someone who produces my customs, you're a real woman with a real life. I like that I think that way about you, and when I want my next custom, I'd rather have it from someone like you who I like, know, and trust, rather than someone I know nothing about.
Chris put it beautifully! And that's why I like Jayce!
You're authentic. It's always best to do it the way you find most comfortable. You've got enough on your plate as it is. I think changing your game is only going to make your life harder.
You are very loved and highly respected around here. It's a shame it doesn't always manifest the livelihood you truly deserve.
Trouso said: You're authentic. It's always best to do it the way you find most comfortable. You've got enough on your plate as it is. I think changing your game is only going to make your life harder.
You are very loved and highly respected around here. It's a shame it doesn't always manifest the livelihood you truly deserve.
You are very loved and highly respected around here. It's a shame it doesn't always manifest the livelihood you truly deserve.
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FUCK. that hit me straight in the feels. All of this did. truly. i will be responding to all these. chris. i love ya. im sorry i havent been emailing you lately! im currently cleaning up paint.....and not fun paint. paint that shouldnt be on the fucking floor....and on clothes. acrylic. all im thinking is: i am not getting paid for this shit.
sincerely. i will post something much more than this but wow. im actually blown away right now. I am pretty sure you all commenting have honestly helped me so much. I didnt know just how bad I needed to hear all of that....wow. thank you. truly.
Trouso said: You're authentic. It's always best to do it the way you find most comfortable. You've got enough on your plate as it is. I think changing your game is only going to make your life harder.
You are very loved and highly respected around here. It's a shame it doesn't always manifest the livelihood you truly deserve.
Well, Trouso put exactly what I was thinking into words better than I could. You have been here long enough that you know this kink splinters off into a ton of sub kinks and fetishes. For example, some people like clothed, some people HATE it. Wars could be waged over pies vs slime vs gunge.
Phil drops some sick truths about business.
Unless you have an oscar in your cabinet, most people can tell when someone is acting. The most brilliant thing about you is that even when you're doing a themed scene, you're not really acting. It's still YOU. People like YOU. In a way it's your niche.
That said, you can be real and true to you and not give away and tell EVERYTHING. Not only is some mystery good, but you have to protect yourself and your family. Not everyone has your best interests at heart. Sometimes in this world less can be more. Some people don't want to know TOO much because it can create complicated feelings, maybe even some guilt. Just like any real life relationship, not everyone can handle the fullness of our lives. This is why we have casual friends, close friends, family, lovers, etc. To an extent we HAVE to compartmentalize.
Me personally, I finally came out of lurking 6 years ago because I wanted to make real connections. I needed to know I wasn't alone. And not just on a superficial internet level. I needed friends that got me. MM, K, Maria, Sploshman, my Vegas house mates, you and a few others, you ARE those friends. We call or text each other, we talk about what's going on in our LIVES. And I love that.
So what I think you need is boundaries. Be YOU, we love YOU. Just be mindful of what you want to share, and the possible implications that can have.
For me, it ruins it when it seems like the model hates it. I recently bought a clip from a very popular producer who creates good stuff. But the model I got- another very well-known model about these parts- acted SO miserably during the shoot that I couldn't stand it. I edited the clip down to 45 secs and kept only that.
I don't buy a whole lot of clips anymore, but for me, knowing that the model is having fun and isn't hating the job goes a long way. I have "wammed" with a few people, but none were on my level of "into-it"; which also takes away. My dream would be to have someone meet me on my level. Knowing that you are doing it because you love it goes a long way. Don't change.
Should you change your style, Jayce? No, not at all!
Your status as a much-loved A-list star of our world is largely based on how you're a genuine wammer and so are just the same as us. And every time you share something about yourself on here, you strengthen those bonds even more. Models are great, but there's an extra dimension a real wammer brings that a mere model, however attractive and game for it she is, just can't match.
I first read the title as "Do you enjoy the MISERY of your models", and was super confused reading your post.
I get Phil's comments, that revealing too much of the mystery can kill the fantasy for some folks, but I also adore your authentic self, Jayce. You do you, boo. You keep waming, and we'll keep buying and jerking.