Like many of you I grew up watching TV shows like NHP, GYOB etc etc and for me it was always the humiliation those people endured, in front of millions often only agreeing to it seemingly under peer pressure that really pushed my buttons. That along with the complete over the top nature of the process was often overwhelming for me as a youngster and I honestly was very apprehensive about creating content.

Firstly I didn't know how I would react, watching gungings on telly always left me with a big lump in my throat and I was worried if I'd be able to keep it together, but also I was worried that it would ruin it for me, would I be desensitised to it? I didn't want that either.

Fortunately the opposite has happened, firstly performing wasn't that hard. Maybe the first one was but that fear was fear of the unknown and once that bubble was burst I was away and having fun. It's still daunting, and I get nervous but its nervous energy rather than fear.

Secondly (and this is the real point of the post) now I have experienced having to clean up after, especially my clothes and the shower I need after, watching those shows on TV where people have gone out for a night out and ended up covered in gunge has made me even more fascinated by the humiliation of it. Gunge doesn't just wash off like say shower gel. And it certainly doesn't wash off clothes super easily. Usually because of the sheer amount of it. It's time consuming and the thought of those people having to clean themselves up after the show not quite sure what's happened to them has only enhanced the fantasy for me.

Anyway, I thought that an interesting thing to share and if it wasn't there is a picture of me from last night to spice things up xx

Happy new year to everyone and if you have never plucked up the courage to tip a bucket of gunge over yourself try it in 2022.

Love Erin xxx

I couldn't agree more. I'm very new too this. Like really new I signed up last night. But have been experimenting for a little while now. I never knew this was a fetish but I had this weird feeling when I would see it.

My first experience was jelly wrestling at university party. Yeah I got called out to do it. I was super nervous, like you said I felt humiliated but that was a turn on. Once I got in there and got down and dirty the feel of the jelly on my skin was amazing. I always remembered that experience.

I have since seen pictures pop up on Instagram and just happened to click on them, the more I seen them the more curious I got. I did some googling and found this site and was like OMFG this is actually a fetish people are into. I have since tried some foods as you can see in my pictures. And thought wow I can share this. So here I am and so far loving the people on here everyone is so friendly.

I love this post, Erin, thank you. I'm so fascinated by the psychological reactions to being gunged (especially as you say under highly pressured situations) as opposed to just what it physically felt like.

I'm really glad to hear you're enjoying yourself, and yet also not becoming desensitised around it

Girl just wait til you try slime

Rookie me I thought slime was gunge

That's sounds very much like an offer of some sort?

We really need to get an HGD setup in the UK.

YESSSSSPLEEEEASSSSSEEEEE

I'd vote for that 10000%

Nice post - public humiliation is probably where most of us experienced WAM for the first time on TV, and I think it's a major trigger for why lots of us are in to it - although I've always worried what would happen if I got into a public situation or saw it happen to someone else, if I'd get embarassed or try to blank out the part of me that would be turned on by mess in that situation!

Ps love your work, are you planning to release that pie/gunge play your cards right session at any point?

Unfortunately not - someone else bought exclusivity to that xxx

Definitely. Mostly being able to vicariously live through all the sensations being triggered by having something drip down or smear into your body while watching it happen to someone else who thoroughly enjoys it as much as you do--mmm *chef's kiss*.

I've only played with my food or edible fake cum I made, but gunge is very colorful and vibrant, and I'm curious how it would feel. Some looks really smooth and custardy and others look really lumpy and textured which would be equally fun to roll around in. Maybe I'll get to trying it one day after I get through all the sauces and condiments and cakes lol. I hope the grocery store is prepared for me.

The gameshow style stuff still sort of scares me, dunk tanks scare me even more, but I'd probably like it if it was followed up with something sensual while still covered in the stuff to make up for the surprise humiliation. I mean, I already enjoy humiliating myself in other ways, so it's not all too far fetched.

Great post!

You've summarised my feelings and the genesis of my fetish far better than I ever could. This is EXACTLY how I felt, right down to the lump in my throat watching TV gungings when I was a kid. The laughing/jeering audience is a factor in those old TV clips that we can never really recreate in private or through fetish content. Genuine humiliation and embarrassment. It was - as you describe - overwhelming.

Having spent about half my lifetime now (wow) watching those old House Party clips on YouTube - sure - they inevitably lose some of their original power and allure, but I keep coming back to my favourites. The fascination will always remain.

Co-sign

It's great to be able to experience both

Great post. Love the familiar psychology that wammers all share! Share the same triggers and memories.

It enhances your work so much more knowing you have this background and shared passion!

@tinyblondefeet without wishing to kick the hornets nest, slime = gunge and vice versa. Gunge is essentially a UK vs US language difference.

It can be taken way too seriously and become a much heated topic of debate. wrongly in my view. You only need to see some old NHP gungings to see how thick / opaque gunge can be!

Gunge can be lumpy sir. It just usually isn't but that doesn't mean it can't be

Besides that ignores the US v UK terminology point.

Let's not have this debate!!!

You're pretty much spot on for the real world usage of the terms. Since the early days of UMD, however, "gunge" has been shorthand for BBC-style gunge made from cellulose gum and "slime" has been shorthand for YCDTOTV-style slime. Although, there were so many recipes for slime on that show and a lot of people misremember it as an overly thick and chunky oatmeal concoction that looks more like green popcorn ceiling.

But like you said, there are a lot of pointless debates about what the "correct" slime or gunge is or isn't and, as this is an internet forum, they amount to little more than entitled basement dwellers trying to pass off their opinions and prejudices as objective fact.

Oh my goddddddddddddd amazing! Please get gunged in a proper gunge tank like GYOB or live & kicking...so many options on here for that!

Glad you're enjoying it!

Have you considered branching out into doing customs with savoury mess? A mucky bucket or two?

A cultural exchange, perhaps?

Great Post, I've never really thought about the humiliation aspect, but it's an interesting point, I wonder if anyone just loves the messy aspect of WAM?
By which I mean my theory is that it's an add on fetish, such as the humiliation side of it.
Personally I love to see women start off fully clothed, smartly dressed, make up etc, with hosiery and beautiful lingerie underneath, for me, a girl next door type wearing a dress and stockings getting pied will always be sexier than a naked supermodel getting messy .
I think it's because it was so rare to see women on the receiving end, it was always men, so seeing a woman dressed to the nines getting pied or gunged became even more treasured.
I also think it adds to the schadenfreude if a woman gets messy because of all the effort to look amazing, destroyed in a few seconds.
Thanks for listening, I'll shut up now

Happy New Year Erin! Glad you're enjoying it so much!

I love the way it feels first, but I think you will find the entire spectrum here from types of substances, clothes (or no clothes), the way it's applied, the circumstances (humiliation or just pure sensational submersion)--really the whole gamut. Personally, I enjoy seeing the diversity and commonalities between the fetishists and kinksters here.

For me, as long as the other person is genuinely enjoying themselves, then I enjoy myself too.

I guess I can relate.
I'm not big on here, but when I started writing wam fiction, I have discovered that I began reading a bit more of other people's work. I use it to see where I can improve or where I'm lacking.
We get interested by what we don't know and what is left to discover.

Worries about exploring WAM causing desensitisation

The brain loves to make connections between memories, emotions and ideas (I an effort to cut down on my usual waffling here is a link for those interested in where I elaborate more on that point: https://umd.net/forums/developing-a-wam-fetish-later-in-life#postid_835928) but that once the brain has made a connection it is very difficult to permanently lose strong associations/connections the brain has made.

One thing to watch out for though is the Law of Diminishing returns. Whilst usually associated with economics it applies too in psychology. The more you do something the less value you get from it. For instance if you were to begin eating just your favourite meal for all your meals from now on, you'll probably can sick and tired of your favourite meal in about 3-5 days. Not only is it no longer as enjoyable as it was on the first day but you might even be finding it unpleasant. Were you to undertake this experiment you might then be tempted to swear off this meal for the rest of your life But over time your brain and body eventually forgets your overindulgence in a way sort of resetting itself and then with a long time passing between when you last enjoyed that meal you'll once again experience a hankering for it.

We've all seen this sort of thing play out multiple times here on the forum with people who get into the kink, massively overindulge in WAM material to the point they find their enjoyment in it wanes and is overtaken by any unresolved issues of shame about the kink before then making a dramatic I'm leaving post, possibly accompanied by a purge of some sort only for them to return months or years later when they've got the urge again.

The key to managing kink interests over the long term without the highs of overindulge and lows of purging is to treat them more like we do with eating food. By having a wide selection of meals to choose from and changing things up each meal we give ourselves time for the heart to grow fonder at the absence for each individual meal that each time by the time we come to sit down to consume it again we do so with the same pleasure and appreciation we do each time we have it.

Essentially the short version of all that is: 1. Variety is not just the spice of life and 2. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.


Humiliation connections

(And at the risk of sounding like an old Psychology lecturer of mine who had like 90% of his references referring to his own writings I'll just repost a link to my prior pontifications on humiliation in kink and WAM rather than repeat most of it. https://umd.net/blogs/i/themes-of-wam-pontificating-on-humiliati/return/%2Fprofile%2Fi%2Fthestickytrickster%2Fsection%2Fblogs%2F)

What I find most intriguing about erotic humiliation is how misunderstood it is and the sort of hidden ironies within it.

Society's attitude to sex and pleasure is outright paradoxical. It is totally fine with R-rated levels of hints of sexuality to sell pretty much any product but anything naughtier and shit gets wild as multiple religions and political philosophies have an axe to grind.

In the West Abrahamic religions have decided enjoying the earthly pleasures of sexuality for any purpose other than procreation to be sinful, unclean and made a person impure which forms the bulk of right wing social political attitudes to sex. Meanwhile socialist philosophies prioritising equality mean that most pleasures are tainted with the guilt of how can you possibly be enjoying yourself, whilst there are still people in the world suffering or worse off than you.

As a result many people have mentally made a connection between shame/humiliation and sex something many people who've experienced things like post-masturbatory guilt can attest to. Once the brain has made the mental connection between humiliation and arousal then other things they find humiliating can then result in arousal because the brain has formed that association between them.

For those that enjoy erotic humiliation they have found a way for the pleasure seeking part of them to gain pleasure from the negative social judgements made about what they enjoy. However as we are also social creatures looking to fit in with society and so people also feel the need to hide their secret desires to fit in and progress in society.

A downside to it though is that it can be difficult for anyone to find someone to be able to explore it properly with. Firstly because it is something much of society judges the majority of people don't want anything to do with it, either because they share those views or don't want to be associated with it so they too can be judged for it. Not only do they need someone that won't completely judge them for it but would be willing to play the role of humiliator or degrader many fear what it would say about them if they do such things. In truth you are only doing this with someone that secretly really wants you to do the things you have agreed to together. You are not going out humiliating random people which would naturally be wrong, but helping to facilitate the most secret fantasies of someone who has shared that they even have that fantasy with very few people. They also need to know that when you see them at their most humiliated or debased that whilst the rest of society might abandon them or judge them for it that in the end you will do neither. That you are prepared to build them back up afterwards, never use what goes on in play time against them and respect who they as a whole person.


Role of Fear

Whilst I have waffled on enough already it is worth pointing out that fear also regularly plays a role alongside humiliation with these kinks. Wrapped up within humiliation itself is the fear of social rejection and ostracization. And in the context of it being on TV gunge is seen as a form of jeopardy and that the inclusion of jeopardy within a gameshow is often done by gameshow designers to inject suspense and tension into the format. The fear of the jeopardy and trying to avoid it being a dramatic device introduced to enhance the emotional journey for the viewer. Whilst the methods for gameshows may differ from fictional storytelling on TV in the end they both attempt to entertain by taking the viewer on an emotional rollercoaster.

Right I'll shut my trap now, have definitely yammered on more than people were looking for...

That's long lol.

I mean, I guess everyone has their quirks or reason for enjoying humiliation (which isn't always connected with WAM).

Guilt on the other hand, it's how you deal with it. It helps if you have nonjudgmental people in your life, be they real life, online friends, or a therapist. People leaving out of shame and guilt aren't going to just erase something hardwired into them, but you can't help someone who doesn't want it.

Words of a wise person that wasn't me, 'You can't help what turns you on.'

It would be better if society permitted us to explore and expand upon the different facets that make up each and everyone of us. No one will get rid of the negative emotions from time to time or all the intricacies of the culture(s) we grew up and exist in, but I think having others support you or (as cheesy as it sounds) finding you family or a few people you can trust while you work through it lessens the burden.

Very true

https://youtu.be/3CrN8bOdrLU

Amen to that

Gunge or Slime - who cares! As long as it feels amazing when it slides over and into my jeans!!!

Yeah apologies about that it's an unfortunate by-product of my dyspraxia. There's more than a 40 IQ point difference between my ability to understand complex systems/concepts and my verbal processing abilities. It's an utter bugger trying to find the words to express half the crap in my head in a coherent order that others will understand.


Technically speaking in most liberal countries it already does allow us. The laws of the land whilst obviously setting out what is or isn't a crime is typically not only more permissive than socio-cultural values of the dominant culture but actually grants you liberties protecting you from having other people force their socio-cultural values on to you.

As such in most liberal democracies there aren't any laws preventing people from finding a partner to consensually explore whatever humiliating fantasies they have. Usually it is the socio-cultural values and the fear of the judgement from friend, family and co-workers if they ever found out that might deter people. Many that are brave enough to take the plunge to explore their most secret desires they also seek to maintain a double life. One secret life where they can explore their kinkiest desires free from judgement and another where they continue to be a well-respected and (hopefully) successful member of society.

They want to keep a foot in both the normal world and one in the secret underworld of kink? I'm happy to oblige. I love watch them bloom in both of them to be the bad influence that allows them to freely explore their deepest desires, be the secret keeper that protects their real life from the judgement of others and maybe provide a kinky incentive or two to provide motivation to achieve any personal goals they would like coaching with. I would be delighted for them to want me to "force" them to do some humiliating fantasy they've always wanted someone to do to them but of course they will have to ask for it in the appropriate way such requests should be made On their knees confessing in such a way that neither I, nor any part of their psyche is in any doubt how badly they want it

Now whilst most liberal societies permit people to pursue their desires with consenting partners they also come with permission to allow other members in society to judge people for doing so. Whilst it is easy to think it would be better if it didn't I don't think it would be.

Firstly isn't exploring something many people disapprove of the very reason why things feel naughty and kinky in the first place? I can think of no more delicious irony at being able to derive a sexual thrill out of the judgements and intolerance of others. How annoyed do you reckon they might be if only they understood their own disapproval is the very thing that makes it kinky enough to enjoy? There's probably some empowering in your face T-shirt slogan to be made out of that like, "I get off on your disapproval!" or something. But anyway the last reason I don't think we should be too bothered about it is that without the freedom to be able to hold differing opinions and views it is very unlikely that the majority would permit the kinky to be able to explore their kinks in the first place rather than use it to prevent people judging people being kinky... Hell there is still judgements of certain kinks to be found popping up in various FetLife groups.

In truth we just have to choose which the socio-cultural beliefs we wish to keep and which we reject. The rejection of cultural norms by increasing numbers of people is how cultures change. There once was a time when witch-burning, religious wars, indentured servitude and torture were all parts of the culture in Britain until they were rejected and outlawed.

Now personally I've rejected quite a bit of socio-cultural rubbish that was damaging my mental health in favour of various nuggets pinched from other philosophies such as Stoicism, Epicureanism, Taoism, Aristotle, Empiricism etc. As a result today I've much healthier mental health, emotional processing and personal barriers. Now I don't really give two shits what most of society thinks about my kinks indeed due to personal barriers people need to prove they're trustworthy and earn my respect before I'll lower the appropriate mental barriers to allow them to affect me emotionally. If a complete stranger wants to try shame me for a kink without having got my respect first then their efforts will do more to lower my opinion of them than myself now. But with the right person that has proven themselves to me and that I respect I will allow myself to open to them so that they can play with some of my humiliation kink triggers they're still there even now that I've made peace with all the issues around having the kinks as the connections sort of stick around but now they're a lot more selective about who is granted the ability or power to interact with them.

But yeah agree that people don't get to choose their kinks or who they are attracted to. To borrow from a principle within stoicism that we don't even get to choose what we feel but we can choose how we react to it. On that principle it is the actions we choose in response to something that we should be judged on.

Anyway I've blabbered on enough about humiliation for quite awhile now so will just end with recommending Enough To Make You Blush Exploring Erotic Humiliation for anyone wishing to explore the subject of Erotic Humiliation in general. There isn't much about Sploshing in there (only about a small paragraph) but in terms of a broad overview and introduction to humiliation play and various types of play it is worth a look.