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"Cute redhead pied, anyone know the story?"
Love you, tooThe description says this is an ex-Fiverr girl but I've never seen someone from Fiverr use pies like this, they completely look like a producer's work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC75cULs1AA
Does anyone here know what's up here? If it is a producer, I wouldn't mind checking out their work and dropping some $$$ for it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC75cULs1AA
Does anyone here know what's up here? If it is a producer, I wouldn't mind checking out their work and dropping some $$$ for it...
Yeah, when she and her man were on fiver the pics were posted here, we all busted a nut and wemt wild. Several UMDers set up customs and she disappeared. All within like 72 hours it seemed.
Not sure if folks got ripped off or we just scared her off. Glad these two vids finally popped up.
IIRC there were only 2 or 3 made.
Not sure if folks got ripped off or we just scared her off. Glad these two vids finally popped up.
IIRC there were only 2 or 3 made.
Was this a Fiverr girl? I think this came from a Fiverr account.
As I recall, she offered four choices of outfits and different options on how many pies (2, 4, 6, or 8). Given the low price I decided to try out the two pie $5 option, and I got the clip the next day. When I viewed it, it appeared to be an excerpt from a longer clip and that i noticed it was exactly the same as the demo clip on her page. The only difference was the demo clip had a opening message saying it custom for a specific user while the clip I received had a generic message. Later that day I got an e-mail out of the blue saying the order was cancelled, and I was being refunded.
Based on the quick turn around and the other details, I suspect the videos were pre-made, and the account was terminated by Fiverr for recycling content and not doing true custom orders.
Based on the quick turn around and the other details, I suspect the videos were pre-made, and the account was terminated by Fiverr for recycling content and not doing true custom orders.
I remember thinking when I saw the offer (here) that it was something of a scam. The buyer of these "customs" was offered a choice of a couple of outfits, the number of pies and maybe one other choice. That meant there was a finite number of combinations. The producer only had to make one video for each possible combination, and then sell them as "customs." 
i think i know theres guy named rob morison i talk to on facebook who does his own pie shoots that vid is his. i know this cause i paid for a vid he sent me which has same girl. his account been removed from facebook twice so not much pic of shoots posted. he doesnt have store set up to buy videos.
Sleazoid44 said: I remember thinking when I saw the offer (here) that it was something of a scam. The buyer of these "customs" was offered a choice of a couple of outfits, the number of pies and maybe one other choice. That meant there was a finite number of combinations. The producer only had to make one video for each possible combination, and then sell them as "customs."
jfs said: i think i know theres guy named rob morison i talk to on facebook who does his own pie shoots that vid is his. i know this cause i paid for a vid he sent me which has same girl. his account been removed from facebook twice so not much pic of shoots posted. he doesnt have store set up to buy videos.
Kind of reminds me of this guy's work (just stills):
https://youtu.be/UeQFTPbNyi0
He'd advertised here years back, posts here occasionally still. Does great work but not an open and honest guy about it, seems to always be playing a game rather than just opening a store and selling them. I think he never bothered getting the models to sign consent forms so he's not able to really sell his work openly.
Little bit skeevy I guess but he and his partner have managed to get several very hot girls and he uses some of the best pies I've seen of any producer. Wish he'd get his act together, get the models to sign a damn release and put some stuff out there for $10-15 a pop like everyone else... but oh well.
Huh. Hot girl shows up in community and immediately starts offering cheap customs, before being revealed to be a front for a shady skeevy dude, and both disappear.... But not before scamming a bunch of people.
Well, guess there's a first time for everything.
Well, guess there's a first time for everything.
fullypied said: I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me, but isn't that the girl who got a fiverr account closed for advertising here? Something about the breaking their policy. Or was that someone else?
That was the "official" story, but the truth was -
Nobody was making customs for anyone. Whoever was behind it already had a video made and was pretending to custom make videos for people. Looking at the second video, they would cut and splice what they already had to make it somehow appear like it was being tailored to your order.
Fiverr shut them down because that's not how it works.
Not stating this as a fact, but simply my own theory: The two videos of the redhead above are the work of one Jerry Bagwell, the guy who did the classic Pie Fun Productions videos back in the late aughts. For anyone who's very familiar with his PFP works, there are several hints in these videos, especially the longer one, that he is the one slapping the pies into this lovely young woman's face.
I'm sure some people will say, as they always do when I bring up Pie Fun Productions, what the hell is that? I never heard of that producer! For a refresher: this spring and summer I posted a shitload of screencaps from three videos he did with his most gorgeous model, Laura. You can see those here:
https://umd.net/forums/looking-back-fondly-on-the-lov
https://umd.net/forums/another-look-at-luscious-lithesome-laur
I'm sure some people will say, as they always do when I bring up Pie Fun Productions, what the hell is that? I never heard of that producer! For a refresher: this spring and summer I posted a shitload of screencaps from three videos he did with his most gorgeous model, Laura. You can see those here:
https://umd.net/forums/looking-back-fondly-on-the-lov
https://umd.net/forums/another-look-at-luscious-lithesome-laur
In an older locked thread, on about 20170401, someone posted the remark that when one sees a video you like to BUY IT, because you never know when it will close up shop.
Sadly, this is advice which I wish I could follow, but can't.
SO many past videomakers have come & gone that I WANTED to buy videos from,
including MessyFun, and Pie Fun Productions, & Blue Diamond (?) Videos,
& Tied & Pied Messy Cuties but kept delaying & delaying until I could earn enough
money to buy them.
My greatest fear is running completely out of money and then somebody calling me stupid and criticizing me sarcastically: "If you were so poor, why did you have the money to spend on luxuries like WAM fetish videos?"
and then that critic goes on to condemn/strawman ALL poor people
"these poor people - they got the money to buy iPhones & computers, etc."
even though each & every one of the WAM videos I have ever bought in my life
gave me great joy. I don't even own a cellphone.
My fear is that Messygirl, Slapstickstuff, & Anglefan will close up shop, too,
suddenly, before I ever get a chance to buy their wonderful stuff.
Sadly, this is advice which I wish I could follow, but can't.
SO many past videomakers have come & gone that I WANTED to buy videos from,
including MessyFun, and Pie Fun Productions, & Blue Diamond (?) Videos,
& Tied & Pied Messy Cuties but kept delaying & delaying until I could earn enough
money to buy them.
My greatest fear is running completely out of money and then somebody calling me stupid and criticizing me sarcastically: "If you were so poor, why did you have the money to spend on luxuries like WAM fetish videos?"
and then that critic goes on to condemn/strawman ALL poor people
"these poor people - they got the money to buy iPhones & computers, etc."
even though each & every one of the WAM videos I have ever bought in my life
gave me great joy. I don't even own a cellphone.
My fear is that Messygirl, Slapstickstuff, & Anglefan will close up shop, too,
suddenly, before I ever get a chance to buy their wonderful stuff.
pieromaniac_too said:
I know how much you love to scoff at the UMD hoi polloi, Rich, but did "a bunch of people" really get "scammed" if everyone got their money back?
SStuff said: Huh. Hot girl shows up in community and immediately starts offering cheap customs, before being revealed to be a front for a shady skeevy dude, and both disappear.... But not before scamming a bunch of people.
Well, guess there's a first time for everything.
Well, guess there's a first time for everything.
I know how much you love to scoff at the UMD hoi polloi, Rich, but did "a bunch of people" really get "scammed" if everyone got their money back?
It was just a joke. The humor was that because there have been plenty of Chris-inspired "girls" who show up, take customs, do 1-2, then disappear after ripping off tons of people, this incident was reminiscent of it.
However, let's be overly serious for a moment and really analyze this. Was Rich's joke fair? Was this exactly like that?
The answer is, No.
IIRC, all the transactions were through Fiverr and everyone got what they paid for. It didn't take Fiverr long at all to yank the account, however. Also, while people who paid $5-10 did get something -- they were ALL lied to about it.
The person in question was presenting this as having a girlfriend who would be making customs, not that he'd acquired or shot a video with someone in the past and would be chopping it into pieces to re-sell to multiple people.
So, overall, Rich's joke was not a perfect interpretation the events.
Enigmahood said:
Kind of reminds me of this guy's work (just stills):
https://youtu.be/UeQFTPbNyi0
He'd advertised here years back, posts here occasionally still. Does great work but not an open and honest guy about it, seems to always be playing a game rather than just opening a store and selling them. I think he never bothered getting the models to sign consent forms so he's not able to really sell his work openly.
Little bit skeevy I guess but he and his partner have managed to get several very hot girls and he uses some of the best pies I've seen of any producer. Wish he'd get his act together, get the models to sign a damn release and put some stuff out there for $10-15 a pop like everyone else... but oh well.
Sleazoid44 said: I remember thinking when I saw the offer (here) that it was something of a scam. The buyer of these "customs" was offered a choice of a couple of outfits, the number of pies and maybe one other choice. That meant there was a finite number of combinations. The producer only had to make one video for each possible combination, and then sell them as "customs."
jfs said: i think i know theres guy named rob morison i talk to on facebook who does his own pie shoots that vid is his. i know this cause i paid for a vid he sent me which has same girl. his account been removed from facebook twice so not much pic of shoots posted. he doesnt have store set up to buy videos.
Kind of reminds me of this guy's work (just stills):
https://youtu.be/UeQFTPbNyi0
He'd advertised here years back, posts here occasionally still. Does great work but not an open and honest guy about it, seems to always be playing a game rather than just opening a store and selling them. I think he never bothered getting the models to sign consent forms so he's not able to really sell his work openly.
Little bit skeevy I guess but he and his partner have managed to get several very hot girls and he uses some of the best pies I've seen of any producer. Wish he'd get his act together, get the models to sign a damn release and put some stuff out there for $10-15 a pop like everyone else... but oh well.
stills u posted are from that guy I mentioned he has no involvement on fiverr far as inknow
pieromaniac_too said:
I know how much you love to scoff at the UMD hoi polloi, Rich, but did "a bunch of people" really get "scammed" if everyone got their money back?
Granted, I don't know for sure that everyone got their money back, but the one report we have so far in this thread is from a person whose money was refunded.
If anyone actually did lose money over this faux fiverr girl, please speak up.
I know how much you love to scoff at the UMD hoi polloi, Rich, but did "a bunch of people" really get "scammed" if everyone got their money back?
Granted, I don't know for sure that everyone got their money back, but the one report we have so far in this thread is from a person whose money was refunded.
If anyone actually did lose money over this faux fiverr girl, please speak up.
You are correct, and as Enigmahood points out, it was a "joke," but not a "100% accurate joke."
"Scammed" was too broad a term. I should've substituted the phrase, "Received customs which were technically not customs, but merely one video edited different ways, and then later money was refunded." Kinda blows the timing of the joke, but as a wise man once said: "Comedy with even the HINT of exaggeration isn't comedy at all."
(Weirdly, said wise man bombed every single time I saw his act.)
Also, in the interest of full disclosure for the hoi polloi:
When I type "LOL," I am almost never laughing out loud.
When I post this emoji after your post
..... My eyes are actually remaining normal size. When I say "I can't even..." I probably can.
All that stuff about Regis stalking models is still 100% true though.
super cute gal, great (real) pies (and variety)...shows what you can do with just one HD camera, good lighting (and wardrobe) and one very pretty model with a great atitude!
I love how here eye makeup and lipstick sttill look great post-pieings...guess the newer brands of makeup are now being made pie-compatible!
Also: I find it Interesting that this video was just uploaded yesterday (tuesday, the 26th)...
I love how here eye makeup and lipstick sttill look great post-pieings...guess the newer brands of makeup are now being made pie-compatible!
Also: I find it Interesting that this video was just uploaded yesterday (tuesday, the 26th)...
'Our Favorite (Pie) Hits' now available!
Enigmahood said:
Kind of reminds me of this guy's work (just stills):
https://youtu.be/UeQFTPbNyi0
He'd advertised here years back, posts here occasionally still. Does great work but not an open and honest guy about it, seems to always be playing a game rather than just opening a store and selling them. I think he never bothered getting the models to sign consent forms so he's not able to really sell his work openly.
Little bit skeevy I guess but he and his partner have managed to get several very hot girls and he uses some of the best pies I've seen of any producer. Wish he'd get his act together, get the models to sign a damn release and put some stuff out there for $10-15 a pop like everyone else... but oh well.
Sleazoid44 said: I remember thinking when I saw the offer (here) that it was something of a scam. The buyer of these "customs" was offered a choice of a couple of outfits, the number of pies and maybe one other choice. That meant there was a finite number of combinations. The producer only had to make one video for each possible combination, and then sell them as "customs."
jfs said: i think i know theres guy named rob morison i talk to on facebook who does his own pie shoots that vid is his. i know this cause i paid for a vid he sent me which has same girl. his account been removed from facebook twice so not much pic of shoots posted. he doesnt have store set up to buy videos.
Kind of reminds me of this guy's work (just stills):
https://youtu.be/UeQFTPbNyi0
He'd advertised here years back, posts here occasionally still. Does great work but not an open and honest guy about it, seems to always be playing a game rather than just opening a store and selling them. I think he never bothered getting the models to sign consent forms so he's not able to really sell his work openly.
Little bit skeevy I guess but he and his partner have managed to get several very hot girls and he uses some of the best pies I've seen of any producer. Wish he'd get his act together, get the models to sign a damn release and put some stuff out there for $10-15 a pop like everyone else... but oh well.
Enigmahood
I'd appreciate it if you didn't refer to me as being "not an open and honest guy" and "skeevy". For your information every single girl I have shot with has signed a release form and knew that I was shooting the video for potential sale.
The reason I haven't released anything is because I haven't been happy with the quality of the videos.
Maybe if you're going to make a comment know the facts.
The Samantha pied is my stuff ... the redhead pied stuff isn't my stuff. You're bad mouthing me in a post that has nothing to do with me.
Oh, I was referring to how you would pretend to do customs with pre-made stuff back in 2014-2015 or so. That's something I consider less than upfront, you know with the lying and such, and while I didn't overly condemn you, I do think it's kind of skeevy to misrepresent yourself.
I wasn't trying to offend you over the comments earlier. It's the internet, people aren't always honest when writing emails to virtual strangers. It's not the end of the world, particularly since it wasn't you doing the Fiverr thing (which was also someone lying a little bit, but nobody got ripped off and it was more of a white lie anyway).
Now, I didn't know for sure if you were behind this redhead video (or the accompanying minor drama that went along with it). The work and the modus operandi were both indicative of your previous efforts, but if you're saying it's not you, that's fine for me. Wish they'd step forward, I'm sure the community would love to see more of their outstanding work (iirc, the Fiverr person claimed the cute red head was his girlfriend or something. Lucky guy, if true...)
Now, since we're all being open here, I always had a question about your work (and it's really great btw, even the heavily edited stuff of yours that been floating around over the years is wonderful work), you've never sold any of your clips in a store? Maybe under a different name? Your stuff looks eerily familiar... as if I've seen stuff just like it before.
In any event, I'm glad to hear there are no speed bumps stopping you from putting your work out. You might think it's subpar but I can assure you a lot of people would disagree. Hope you change your mind.
I wasn't trying to offend you over the comments earlier. It's the internet, people aren't always honest when writing emails to virtual strangers. It's not the end of the world, particularly since it wasn't you doing the Fiverr thing (which was also someone lying a little bit, but nobody got ripped off and it was more of a white lie anyway).
Now, I didn't know for sure if you were behind this redhead video (or the accompanying minor drama that went along with it). The work and the modus operandi were both indicative of your previous efforts, but if you're saying it's not you, that's fine for me. Wish they'd step forward, I'm sure the community would love to see more of their outstanding work (iirc, the Fiverr person claimed the cute red head was his girlfriend or something. Lucky guy, if true...)
Now, since we're all being open here, I always had a question about your work (and it's really great btw, even the heavily edited stuff of yours that been floating around over the years is wonderful work), you've never sold any of your clips in a store? Maybe under a different name? Your stuff looks eerily familiar... as if I've seen stuff just like it before.
In any event, I'm glad to hear there are no speed bumps stopping you from putting your work out. You might think it's subpar but I can assure you a lot of people would disagree. Hope you change your mind.
Enigmahood said: Oh, I was referring to how you would pretend to do customs with pre-made stuff back in 2014-2015 or so. That's something I consider less than upfront, you know with the lying and such, and while I didn't overly condemn you, I do think it's kind of skeevy to misrepresent yourself.
I wasn't trying to offend you over the comments earlier. It's the internet, people aren't always honest when writing emails to virtual strangers. It's not the end of the world, particularly since it wasn't you doing the Fiverr thing (which was also someone lying a little bit, but nobody got ripped off and it was more of a white lie anyway).
Now, I didn't know for sure if you were behind this redhead video (or the accompanying minor drama that went along with it). The work and the modus operandi were both indicative of your previous efforts, but if you're saying it's not you, that's fine for me. Wish they'd step forward, I'm sure the community would love to see more of their outstanding work (iirc, the Fiverr person claimed the cute red head was his girlfriend or something. Lucky guy, if true...)
Now, since we're all being open here, I always had a question about your work (and it's really great btw, even the heavily edited stuff of yours that been floating around over the years is wonderful work), you've never sold any of your clips in a store? Maybe under a different name? Your stuff looks eerily familiar... as if I've seen stuff just like it before.
In any event, I'm glad to hear there are no speed bumps stopping you from putting your work out. You might think it's subpar but I can assure you a lot of people would disagree. Hope you change your mind.
I wasn't trying to offend you over the comments earlier. It's the internet, people aren't always honest when writing emails to virtual strangers. It's not the end of the world, particularly since it wasn't you doing the Fiverr thing (which was also someone lying a little bit, but nobody got ripped off and it was more of a white lie anyway).
Now, I didn't know for sure if you were behind this redhead video (or the accompanying minor drama that went along with it). The work and the modus operandi were both indicative of your previous efforts, but if you're saying it's not you, that's fine for me. Wish they'd step forward, I'm sure the community would love to see more of their outstanding work (iirc, the Fiverr person claimed the cute red head was his girlfriend or something. Lucky guy, if true...)
Now, since we're all being open here, I always had a question about your work (and it's really great btw, even the heavily edited stuff of yours that been floating around over the years is wonderful work), you've never sold any of your clips in a store? Maybe under a different name? Your stuff looks eerily familiar... as if I've seen stuff just like it before.
In any event, I'm glad to hear there are no speed bumps stopping you from putting your work out. You might think it's subpar but I can assure you a lot of people would disagree. Hope you change your mind.
Once again you should know your facts before commenting:
I've never offered customs pre made or other. If you or someone else was offered customs it was not from me. I've never sold a single video I've shot, and I've never offered to sell any of them. I've never taken any money from anyone to make a video. I've never taken any money for shooting a video.
I've posted pictures here because I was hoping to open a store someday. I've wanted to shot other videos in hopes of having better quality but I've had a problem with securing a shooting location.
The heavily edited videos floating around were not released with my permission, someone else was releasing those.
The fiverr guy isn't me and I had nothing to do with the fiverr videos
If anyone fells that I've falsely lead them on because I posted pictures and never released any videos for sale I apologize for that, but I don't believe that makes me dishonest or skeevy.
Hmmm..... I'll be honest, CS Pie. I've seen your clips pop up under various titles around YouTube over the years. If you didn't authorize any of them, I would 100% file copyright claims and get them pulled.
I mean, it's your call. But if nothing else, simply uploading the same videos on YOUR account would mean you would get the (very tiny) ad payouts from YouTube. Instead of that money going to the SKEEVY folks stealing your work and posting it without your permission. (I think I used "skeevy" correctly, yes?)
My personal suggestion would be to get the unauthorized videos pulled, then release your official versions through Vidown or UMD, and make actual money. Multiple pie fans clearly like your work (including yours truly!) so you have an audience, and you've done the hard work already in terms of shooting and so on.
But I know that selling videos on fetish sites isn't everyone's cup of tea, so I respect whatever decision you make. (I'd still suggest pulling the illegal vids off YT though.)
I mean, it's your call. But if nothing else, simply uploading the same videos on YOUR account would mean you would get the (very tiny) ad payouts from YouTube. Instead of that money going to the SKEEVY folks stealing your work and posting it without your permission. (I think I used "skeevy" correctly, yes?)
My personal suggestion would be to get the unauthorized videos pulled, then release your official versions through Vidown or UMD, and make actual money. Multiple pie fans clearly like your work (including yours truly!) so you have an audience, and you've done the hard work already in terms of shooting and so on.
But I know that selling videos on fetish sites isn't everyone's cup of tea, so I respect whatever decision you make. (I'd still suggest pulling the illegal vids off YT though.)
SStuff said: Huh. Hot girl shows up in community and immediately starts offering cheap customs, before being revealed to be a front for a shady skeevy dude, and both disappear.... But not before scamming a bunch of people.
Well, guess there's a first time for everything.
Well, guess there's a first time for everything.
Boy, if only I could find one hot girl who could stand to be around me for even a few minutes, would I take all of you marks to the fuckin' cleaners!
Hmm I need to send you a PM. *Someone* has your videos and is sharing them around privately and making coin off of it.
C.S.Pie said:
Once again you should know your facts before commenting:
I've never offered customs pre made or other. If you or someone else was offered customs it was not from me. I've never sold a single video I've shot, and I've never offered to sell any of them. I've never taken any money from anyone to make a video. I've never taken any money for shooting a video.
I've posted pictures here because I was hoping to open a store someday. I've wanted to shot other videos in hopes of having better quality but I've had a problem with securing a shooting location.
The heavily edited videos floating around were not released with my permission, someone else was releasing those.
The fiverr guy isn't me and I had nothing to do with the fiverr videos
If anyone fells that I've falsely lead them on because I posted pictures and never released any videos for sale I apologize for that, but I don't believe that makes me dishonest or skeevy.
Enigmahood said: Oh, I was referring to how you would pretend to do customs with pre-made stuff back in 2014-2015 or so. That's something I consider less than upfront, you know with the lying and such, and while I didn't overly condemn you, I do think it's kind of skeevy to misrepresent yourself.
I wasn't trying to offend you over the comments earlier. It's the internet, people aren't always honest when writing emails to virtual strangers. It's not the end of the world, particularly since it wasn't you doing the Fiverr thing (which was also someone lying a little bit, but nobody got ripped off and it was more of a white lie anyway).
Now, I didn't know for sure if you were behind this redhead video (or the accompanying minor drama that went along with it). The work and the modus operandi were both indicative of your previous efforts, but if you're saying it's not you, that's fine for me. Wish they'd step forward, I'm sure the community would love to see more of their outstanding work (iirc, the Fiverr person claimed the cute red head was his girlfriend or something. Lucky guy, if true...)
Now, since we're all being open here, I always had a question about your work (and it's really great btw, even the heavily edited stuff of yours that been floating around over the years is wonderful work), you've never sold any of your clips in a store? Maybe under a different name? Your stuff looks eerily familiar... as if I've seen stuff just like it before.
In any event, I'm glad to hear there are no speed bumps stopping you from putting your work out. You might think it's subpar but I can assure you a lot of people would disagree. Hope you change your mind.
I wasn't trying to offend you over the comments earlier. It's the internet, people aren't always honest when writing emails to virtual strangers. It's not the end of the world, particularly since it wasn't you doing the Fiverr thing (which was also someone lying a little bit, but nobody got ripped off and it was more of a white lie anyway).
Now, I didn't know for sure if you were behind this redhead video (or the accompanying minor drama that went along with it). The work and the modus operandi were both indicative of your previous efforts, but if you're saying it's not you, that's fine for me. Wish they'd step forward, I'm sure the community would love to see more of their outstanding work (iirc, the Fiverr person claimed the cute red head was his girlfriend or something. Lucky guy, if true...)
Now, since we're all being open here, I always had a question about your work (and it's really great btw, even the heavily edited stuff of yours that been floating around over the years is wonderful work), you've never sold any of your clips in a store? Maybe under a different name? Your stuff looks eerily familiar... as if I've seen stuff just like it before.
In any event, I'm glad to hear there are no speed bumps stopping you from putting your work out. You might think it's subpar but I can assure you a lot of people would disagree. Hope you change your mind.
Once again you should know your facts before commenting:
I've never offered customs pre made or other. If you or someone else was offered customs it was not from me. I've never sold a single video I've shot, and I've never offered to sell any of them. I've never taken any money from anyone to make a video. I've never taken any money for shooting a video.
I've posted pictures here because I was hoping to open a store someday. I've wanted to shot other videos in hopes of having better quality but I've had a problem with securing a shooting location.
The heavily edited videos floating around were not released with my permission, someone else was releasing those.
The fiverr guy isn't me and I had nothing to do with the fiverr videos
If anyone fells that I've falsely lead them on because I posted pictures and never released any videos for sale I apologize for that, but I don't believe that makes me dishonest or skeevy.
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