The other day I was speaking to someone about a game we could play the next time we meet up for a session and he sergested a game of The leakiest sink from live and kicking (UK tv programme from the 90s)
I couldn't remember it so I went on to YouTube and found it to see what to do. The video was old with the sound and grainy quality video was poor. It got me thinking of how I would have loved to go in the tank and get the wrong plug just to get gunged. It was one of the things that got me in to WAM was the gunge on TV.
It's was a mainstay on TV in the 90s with GYOB, Dick and Dom ect and before with Noel's house party and tizzwas. But now there isn't much on.
So as the TV programs that I watched when I was younger had Mess in them I got in to WAM but today's youth may never know or wonder what it's like to have it?
I know in America there is the kids choice awards that does seam to have slime on but that's not every week like it was in the 80s and 90s
Anyone got any thoughts on it. Be nice to hear what you think
Personally, I don't think what I've seen on TV has any bearing on my fetish. It's always been embedded in me. I discovered far more through the internet than I did by watching television shows anyway.
Messy810 said: Personally, I don't think what I've seen on TV has any bearing on my fetish. It's always been embedded in me. I discovered far more through the internet than I did by watching television shows anyway.
I'm sure it's not the same for everyone though.
I think it was the First thought of going on tv getting gunged. Then when the internet came out in High school for me finding photos of naked women getting gunged Just hit the spot in me.
It's that first thing that set me off. As it's not on TV any more how can it set others off. I understand that the internet is now bigger than it was in the 90s and 00s and can be viewed a lot easier.
I don't know if anyone has done a straw poll of ages on here, but at 36 I get the impression that most people into WAM are of my generation or older. If I look around at other kink interests there seems to be a higher proportion of younger adults.
AI grew up seeing Gunge on TV, and eventually discovered WAM through googling for TV gunge videos much later. Despite this I think I disagree with the point being made. I've seen a few different theories of why people derive pleasure from things like this in the past (be it sexual or not) and I generally agree with the school of thought that they are unhelpful. It doesn't seem right that something I derive a lot of pleasure from is the result of seeing a gunging on TV as a kid. It equally doesn't seem right to say I was born with some combination of genes that give me pleasure from playing in mess. The reality of human behaviour seems too complex to suggest that any single experience fully explains a complicated thing like WAM. Its difficult to say but I think that if it hadn't been for TV I would have come across WAM another way at some point, especially with the developed community here already existing. Its not as if WAM only has meaning and importance when attached to established tropes from TV. Themes of fun, misbehaviour, humilation etc etc exist independent to onscreen portrayals. People have varied reasons for loving getting wet or messy so I doubt declining TV portrayals would lead to a decline in WAM.
The worry for WAM dying out should be better directed toward the difficulties in producing (especially the issue of piracy), changes to the infrastructure of the web (like how Pornhub,who enable the piracy, are pouring their vast resources into developing age gate technology, while lobbying governments to mandate adult sites to require such technology- giving themselves a monopoly and threatening smaller communities like ours), and general societal kink shaming.
deepblue said: I've sometimes wondered if wam existed long before the age of television. Was it around 200 years ago and what form would it have taken?
I'm guessing wam requires the abundance of the modern world thus outside royalty bathing in milk was probably out of the reach of the normal sorts until more recently (making a generalisation of the world as western).
I think the messy fetish dates back long, long ago. Given how bawdy we know the Greek and other old cultures to have been, my guess is that there had to have been some mud orgies centuries ago. Same goes for Victorian culture. I'm willing to bet that the general rule 34 that exists today still held true in ancient times. If there was a thing, there was someone with a fetish for it. Cross-dressing, foot fetishes, bondage... I'm willing to bet there were people practicing all of these ages ago.
That being said, I do think that there was definitely something to watching slapstick gameshows on nickelodeon that help to develop my tastes when I was an adolescent, but I think that I was born with the fetish and probably would have found other outlets if they hadn't been on the air.
And because I think that I was born this way, I see no reason why other people wouldn't be, in the past, present and future. So no, I don't think that WAM will die out. It may look very different at points in the future. It already looks vastly different than it did 20 years ago, but I personally think it's a good thing.
I don't think WAM is dying out. It's not as prominent as it was in the 80's and 90's but it's there. With the way TV helped people find out they like mess, youtube is doing the same for this generation. There have been some viral messy challenges like eat it or wear it, messy trivia challenge. I'm sure there have been people who did those challenges because they wanted to get messy.
For me, it was an awareness that certain substances might be nice to play with. I would see paper ads for grocery stores, and look at the chocolate frosting ads, or pudding. I imagined swimming in a huge vat of it. The same thing happened when I was little and first saw some nice mud. I imagined playing in it, but never told anyone, never tried it until much older.
Nothing on TV really influenced me, although there was an episode of 'It's a Man's World', a TV show in black and white from 1962. On this particular episode, a girl gets very muddy and later bathes in a cow watering tub. I was 9 when I saw it, but it reinforced the feelings I already had.
Here is the episode . . . scroll to 21:20 for the mud scene, 24:00 for the tub scene. Very tame by today's standards, but it was the first wam I had ever seen.
gorgeousGeorge said: I don't think it will die out .However it would be considered sexist,by the left wing minority that exists in society.I used to get hugely turned on as I remember Sally James in her thigh boots getting pied and gunged.As a young boy I had butterflies in my tummy.Later on it was Noels house party.There was some very sexy ladies gunged .Esp Carol Vordeman in a short skirt and thigh boots.I think Noel Edmonds is a secret wammer!!.My little nephew laughing at a lady pirate falling into gunge,is this the start for him.I love wam ,but if I could get rid of my wam fetish and love of thigh boots I would as it sends women running to the hills.My ex said she would do it then said she would not.I accepted this but ,it was always in arguments,she said I was weird ,I felt uncomfortable.Any way I love mud and pied and still live in hope of finding someone who enjoys it.I believe that it would be rare on the BBC to see a lady in mud or quicksand scene or pied,due to eff and safety and the left sadly.Banning pit girls in F1 now .
Mate, that is literally aimed at children. It's become a fad for children to make slime and videos about it in the U.S. I was sitting in a pizza place recently and in the booth next to us a little girl was watching videos on her iPad with her dad and talking about it.
Don't confuse what we do with that... in fact, it worries me with the YouTube videos what kids are finding with some of the freaks out there. And one or two on here.
I just think years ago, life was simpler. Girls walked around barefoot a lot., like all freakin summer, there were girls that never put on a pair of shoes from the beginning to the end of summer, they would be out all day, it was hot! You could anywhere you wanted and noone cared. Now there are signs that you can't.
Every Halloween from the age of 8-15 the kids would buy Eggs and Shaving Cream, go out, cover each other, and your parent's never said anything. Then store owner's started putting out signs we will not sell Eggs, or stores would not sell Shaving Cream.
People would go to events, get drunk, play in the mud, ,whatever, but now people are tough on DWI, etc. People don't drink as much as they did.
You would watch TV shows in the late 70's when seeing a girl covered in mud, or a good pie fight was hot, and it gave them ratings. TV was less censored.
There was not cable TV, no internet, you played with your friends. You went out and did whatever you wanted to have fun. Kids are more interested in playing video games, then a good game of mud football.
You also could go places and do whatever you want, like say if you wanted to play in the mud at State Game lands, but now they have unmanned cameras.
I think it will be less prevalent as time goes on.
The only reason for WAM to die out is if civilization dies out or goes through lean years & austerity. That IS a very REAL and MAJOR reason for WAM to also go through lean years & austerity.
In spite of my ranting and rage at the world all the time, I am still an optimist in the 19th century romantic sense of triumph over adversity.
We could have an all-out nuclear war and eventually (100 years?) we'll still arise again. Of course, what we're all worried about is the suffering in the interim.
But, there exists no reason that TARGETS WAM specifically that would cause WAM to die out.
Mate, that is literally aimed at children. It's become a fad for children to make slime and videos about it in the U.S. I was sitting in a pizza place recently and in the booth next to us a little girl was watching videos on her iPad with her dad and talking about it.
Don't confuse what we do with that... in fact, it worries me with the YouTube videos what kids are finding with some of the freaks out there. And one or two on here.
Agree with this. I stumbled across some "how to make slime" clips on YT just recently, and thought I'd found gold...until I watched them. It very quickly became clear that this is slime to play with, not dump over someone's head. Come to think of it, you could buy small tubs of "green slime" in the UK when I was small, but it was marketed in the same way as silly putty or plasticine, and intended to be used in a similar way. You played with it with your hands, but weren't meant to get it anywhere else. Today's slime is just an updated version.
Noise is right. The slime at toy fairs right now is a toy, and nothing to do with WAM at all.
The trick on YT is to search for "slimed" rather than "slime", as the latter just brings up the toy-related variety.
Mate, that is literally aimed at children. It's become a fad for children to make slime and videos about it in the U.S. I was sitting in a pizza place recently and in the booth next to us a little girl was watching videos on her iPad with her dad and talking about it.
Don't confuse what we do with that... in fact, it worries me with the YouTube videos what kids are finding with some of the freaks out there. And one or two on here.
But what you forget is that we do this, in many cases, because it was part of our childhood to watch gungings on telly. If this "slime-making" is part of their childhood, then some of them will grow up to be like us.
YWBG: those laws may be the consequence of years of political pieings by Noel Godin and his group of anarchists. But whether here or in Europe, hitting someone with a pie (emphasis on 'hitting'), or dousing them with slime, is considered assault (which it is), even though the intent is not to harm [like true assault] but to playfully humiliate. In this day and Age, public image is everything, so, any attempt to besmirch somone's image may carry legal ramifications.
But to the point of the post: I believe WAM will die out within the next 3 years or so due to the complete victory by fascist (and humorless) elements in our society.
Of course it won't die, WAM has its genesis in an era long before the internet or indeed Splosh magazines. Regardless that messy sketches seem to be on the decline on tv, all it takes is one messy moment and the seed is sown.