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"Co-Ed Content"
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Hey there Creamsters, I want to take a poll, what are your thoughts on Co-Ed WAM? How do you feel about watching a man get pied? Are you only interested in seeing women get pied, or do you enjoy watching a couple getting messy together? Would you watch a woman trash a man and not get messy herself? I'm curious about how you like to enjoy your WAM, I've got a few men interested in making videos and I'd like your feedback on how much you'd watch them if I made Co-Ed content. Please feel free to leave your comments below.
7/6/23, 11:30am: gender changed from female to male+female
CreamMeAgain said: Hey there Creamsters, I want to take a poll, what are your thoughts on Co-Ed WAM? How do you feel about watching a man get pied? Are you only interested in seeing women get pied, or do you enjoy watching a couple getting messy together? Would you watch a woman trash a man and not get messy herself? I'm curious about how you like to enjoy your WAM, I've got a few men interested in making videos and I'd like your feedback on how much you'd watch them if I made Co-Ed content. Please feel free to leave your comments below.
Bring on the videos of Creamy splattering guys with pies! (and my dreams of being in such a position).
Full disclosure, I'm not into men. But if a scene is truly co-ed it's not a dealbreaker. That's whether he's only there to dish it out or wants to get involved too. He could be part of a package deal if you're negotiating with a couple, and their dynamic *is* an essential thing to take into account. I've done guy trashing me / both doing each other / me + couple scenes where everyone gets it and loved each and every minute of all of them. The guy on screen didn't detract from the footage in the slightest.
Now if he's the only one on the receiving end while she stays clean I'm out. That doesn't get me going.
Now if he's the only one on the receiving end while she stays clean I'm out. That doesn't get me going.
I've gotten many compliments for it, but the co-ed video I made with Mistress Messier is the least popular seller in my library.
It's a shame, because the experience was WELL worth it!
It's a shame, because the experience was WELL worth it!
I'm just warning you, don't trust your polls on this one. Ask about real sales figures your producers only forum. If co-ed scenes were the way to go I think you'd see several producers migrating to them very quickly but you don't...which is telling you a lot about if it's a good idea or not.
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The people who like co-ed content outnumber the ones who like female only stuff by 2:1 as of this writing (28 to 14). I'm glad to see some support for it, but realistically, you have to bear in mind that just by the title of this thread, it's going to be somewhat self-selecting/biased toward co-ed stuff. That is to say, a lot of people who don't want anything to do with co-ed content are probably never going to open up a thread with the title Co-Ed Content and cast a vote.
I love to visualize myself being the pie target and enjoy when the women have fun delivering the pies.
I'm a straight man, but I love watching men and women get it for different reasons.
I obviously find women who get hit with pies extremely attractive! For these, I enjoy the videos on their own merits, but then also wonder what it'd be like if that was my girlfriend/female friends.
For men, it's fun to imagine seeing myself in his shoes, a mixture of jealousy and wondering how I'd react if I were in the hot seat.
The man pieing man videos I've done get great view counts. But the ones I do with my girlfriend do even better, and they also get the added attention of people wondering when she'll ever get pied herself. The two photo shoots I've done with Beantwn where she and I both get messy have been the most popular things I've ever done.
There's definitely a divide though among people who only want men pieing men and those who only want women pieing men. I find there aren't a lot of videos with the latter on here though, which is what I think drives interest in what I post these days!
All this to say, it'd be a dream to shoot with you someday!!
I obviously find women who get hit with pies extremely attractive! For these, I enjoy the videos on their own merits, but then also wonder what it'd be like if that was my girlfriend/female friends.
For men, it's fun to imagine seeing myself in his shoes, a mixture of jealousy and wondering how I'd react if I were in the hot seat.
The man pieing man videos I've done get great view counts. But the ones I do with my girlfriend do even better, and they also get the added attention of people wondering when she'll ever get pied herself. The two photo shoots I've done with Beantwn where she and I both get messy have been the most popular things I've ever done.
There's definitely a divide though among people who only want men pieing men and those who only want women pieing men. I find there aren't a lot of videos with the latter on here though, which is what I think drives interest in what I post these days!
All this to say, it'd be a dream to shoot with you someday!!
hooliham said: I'm a straight man, but I love watching men and women get it for different reasons.
I obviously find women who get hit with pies extremely attractive! For these, I enjoy the videos on their own merits, but then also wonder what it'd be like if that was my girlfriend/female friends.
For men, it's fun to imagine seeing myself in his shoes, a mixture of jealousy and wondering how I'd react if I were in the hot seat.
The man pieing man videos I've done get great view counts. But the ones I do with my girlfriend do even better, and they also get the added attention of people wondering when she'll ever get pied herself. The two photo shoots I've done with Beantwn where she and I both get messy have been the most popular things I've ever done.
There's definitely a divide though among people who only want men pieing men and those who only want women pieing men. I find there aren't a lot of videos with the latter on here though, which is what I think drives interest in what I post these days!
All this to say, it'd be a dream to shoot with you someday!!
I obviously find women who get hit with pies extremely attractive! For these, I enjoy the videos on their own merits, but then also wonder what it'd be like if that was my girlfriend/female friends.
For men, it's fun to imagine seeing myself in his shoes, a mixture of jealousy and wondering how I'd react if I were in the hot seat.
The man pieing man videos I've done get great view counts. But the ones I do with my girlfriend do even better, and they also get the added attention of people wondering when she'll ever get pied herself. The two photo shoots I've done with Beantwn where she and I both get messy have been the most popular things I've ever done.
There's definitely a divide though among people who only want men pieing men and those who only want women pieing men. I find there aren't a lot of videos with the latter on here though, which is what I think drives interest in what I post these days!
All this to say, it'd be a dream to shoot with you someday!!
I think you've mostly hit the nail on the head with my thinking here.
90% of the time I come to this site I'm looking for female content. Like you, I get enjoyment for many reasons, and one of the big ones is thinking of how my partner would react and daydreaming of doing similar ideas.
But then there's the other 10% where I go scouting for male content, and pretty much the only reason for this is me putting myself in their position, or the idea of my partner doing it to me. Solo or girl-gets-guy/co-ed obviously ticks the boxes here, but guy-on-guy doesn't. (Coincidentally, hooliham is my goto here - the playful, knowing 'humiliation-but-not-really' aspect and messes really works for me).
So you're playing to my 90% or my 10% side. Logically there's one choice there, but equally that doesn't mean a co-ed scene isn't going to capture my attention.
(As a side note; mark me up as another who would snap up any 'hooliham's girlfriend gets it' content, either co-ed or her solo. I get precisely why she wants to stay hidden, but a man can dream!!)
I prefer seeing females getting pied, but there is something about a woman hitting a guy with a pie. If it is Creamy doing the pie giving to a guy, that makes it even better. If she needs a volunteer, then I am all in!
I will completely own that I am in the minority. I prefer women only. However, another side of my kink has to do with the destruction/humiliation aspects. If you had a woman and a man all dressed up, hair make up tux etc. I do enjoy some of that. Where you have the tit for tat or a tied up and then a revenge scene right after. I would want the man to get it just as bad as the woman. If it is just regular clothing or nude stuff, then I prefer women.
Absolutely!!!
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I voted female only, but mainly tailored around the questions you asked in your post. I get nothing from scenes where the woman stays clean but is messing up the man. However, I do enjoy co-ed scenes where either the woman is getting messy or both are getting messy. I'm not attracted to men at all but can get aroused from seeing a man heavily covered in something like chocolate or mud.
One of the sexiest scenes I've ever watched was Messy Jessy having a good time with her boyfriend at the time (I think?) and a lot of porridge. 
So yeah, I guess I like to see co-ed content where both get messy together.
Watching women getting a man messy while staying clean is fun too, as I like to imagine myself in that position, but I don't think I'd buy such a scene.
As for clean men getting women messy, sure!
So yeah, I guess I like to see co-ed content where both get messy together.
Watching women getting a man messy while staying clean is fun too, as I like to imagine myself in that position, but I don't think I'd buy such a scene.
As for clean men getting women messy, sure!
There is always good storylines,for many situations.It could be women v women(bitchiness!),men v men(jealousness!),men v women;or women v men(argumentitive!).There is always more concoctions you can make up.A real situation,that I've come across; was a woman who told her hubby Not To Be Late for his dinner. and told what time it was,as he was having a pint with his pals at the pub: needless to say, time for dinner came and went: so off she went, and delivered his Dinner,all over him; in front of all his pals; whereupon she gave the reason why. This a true story, I've heard of others: several times in different places. 
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.Well, after I mentioned that "Indiscretion", in which I get trashed by a gorgeous lady, was my worst seller; someone went to my store and bought a copy! Thank you for the sale and the ego-boost!
Shokolada said: Well, after I mentioned that "Indiscretion", in which I get trashed by a gorgeous lady, was my worst seller; someone went to my store and bought a copy! Thank you for the sale and the ego-boost!
Yes! I love this! Hope you make more sales
Wow, I'm loving all this feedback! It's really great to know that we're all so similar in our interests here. I love seeing a couple getting messy together, I like to imagine myself in the situation too, but I actually am really getting off on the idea that two people who share this fetish found each other and are having a great time together doing it. It's so special when you have a partner who gets you and wants to turn you on and to be completely covered in mess and for them to still think you're sexy, it's just the most incredible feeling. 
There's nothing I like more than my good lady completely destroy whatever I'm wearing, only 3 days ago I can in from and before I know it I've been pied in the face, chest and crotch, shirt ripped, trousers and underwear gone, while she stayed fully dressed and spotlessly clean.
It's really hot seeing a man completely destroyed, humiland put in his place by a pie wielding lady
It's really hot seeing a man completely destroyed, humiland put in his place by a pie wielding lady
I absolutely loved my video I did trashing Ted I'll definitely be doing some more and can't wait to see others do more too. So it's a big yes from me 
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I'll definitely be doing some more and can't wait to see others do more too. So it's a big yes from me xBri 💋
CreamMeAgain said: It's so special when you have a partner who gets you and wants to turn you on and to be completely covered in mess and for them to still think you're sexy, it's just the most incredible feeling.
When we filmed "Indiscretion" we tried hard to stay professional, as is my normal practice. But I was in a relationship with the lady at the time, and you can see me dropping into subspace for real without intending to! Made it super hard to remember my lines!
CreamMeAgain said: Wow, I'm loving all this feedback! It's really great to know that we're all so similar in our interests here. I love seeing a couple getting messy together, I like to imagine myself in the situation too, but I actually am really getting off on the idea that two people who share this fetish found each other and are having a great time together doing it. It's so special when you have a partner who gets you and wants to turn you on and to be completely covered in mess and for them to still think you're sexy, it's just the most incredible feeling.
I love co-ed content. Damn near every story I write is co-ed, mutual excitement and interest. And well said thank you -- I could not agree more!
I am finding it ironic that I only like watch women only WAM content but enjoy participating in Co-ed WAM. Another thing to add to the ever growing list of odd things about me. 
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It kind of seems to depend
I'm only interested in seeing women getting messy and I prefer to be the one dishing it out but I discovered along the way that I quite like to see a guy doing the messing (so I can put myself in his place).
When I very first shared media of me messing up the then Mrs Trouso I would never show myself in shot. This was partly because, until around a decade ago, UMD had been very much a strictly male voyeur's forum (if anyone wanted to talk about self WAMming, cross dressing or 'feelings' they went to the Splosh! forum). As the UMD membership absorbed the Splosh! forum (following Bill S's death) it definitely became a broader church for WAM and a friendlier place (I need to add that MessMaster was always very broad minded and friendly, but a minority of the original membership tended to strongly dictate what went on and didn't go on!)
I started to appear more as a protagonist as a great many people apparently wanted to see the couple dynamic and encouraged me to appear in shot more *
I've occasionally shared 'revenge' footage, although never sold it. Usually the model is very messy at the end of a shoot. The feedback has generally been that fans of men being messed want to see a clean woman carrying this out.
*This doesn't always work out as you can see by the roasting I got in a review for 'getting in the way' in a paid model shoot with Isla currently in the store.
So, it kind of depends. I can only deduce that the audience for relationship couple WAM (and for the viewer, the fantasy of a WAM relationship) is fairly large.
I'm only interested in seeing women getting messy and I prefer to be the one dishing it out but I discovered along the way that I quite like to see a guy doing the messing (so I can put myself in his place).
When I very first shared media of me messing up the then Mrs Trouso I would never show myself in shot. This was partly because, until around a decade ago, UMD had been very much a strictly male voyeur's forum (if anyone wanted to talk about self WAMming, cross dressing or 'feelings' they went to the Splosh! forum). As the UMD membership absorbed the Splosh! forum (following Bill S's death) it definitely became a broader church for WAM and a friendlier place (I need to add that MessMaster was always very broad minded and friendly, but a minority of the original membership tended to strongly dictate what went on and didn't go on!)
I started to appear more as a protagonist as a great many people apparently wanted to see the couple dynamic and encouraged me to appear in shot more *
I've occasionally shared 'revenge' footage, although never sold it. Usually the model is very messy at the end of a shoot. The feedback has generally been that fans of men being messed want to see a clean woman carrying this out.
*This doesn't always work out as you can see by the roasting I got in a review for 'getting in the way' in a paid model shoot with Isla currently in the store.
So, it kind of depends. I can only deduce that the audience for relationship couple WAM (and for the viewer, the fantasy of a WAM relationship) is fairly large.
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Trouso said: It kind of seems to depend
I'm only interested in seeing women getting messy and I prefer to be the one dishing it out but I discovered along the way that I quite like to see a guy doing the messing (so I can put myself in his place).
When I very first shared media of me messing up the then Mrs Trouso I would never show myself in shot. This was partly because, until around a decade ago, UMD had been very much a strictly male voyeur's forum (if anyone wanted to talk about self WAMming, cross dressing or 'feelings' they went to the Splosh! forum). As the UMD membership absorbed the Splosh! forum (following Bill S's death) it definitely became a broader church for WAM and a friendlier place (I need to add that MessMaster was always very broad minded and friendly, but a minority of the original membership tended to strongly dictate what went on and didn't go on!)
I started to appear more as a protagonist as a great many people apparently wanted to see the couple dynamic and encouraged me to appear in shot more *
I've occasionally shared 'revenge' footage, although never sold it. Usually the model is very messy at the end of a shoot. The feedback has generally been that fans of men being messed want to see a clean woman carrying this out.
*This doesn't always work out as you can see by the roasting I got in a review for 'getting in the way' in a paid model shoot with Isla currently in the store.
So, it kind of depends. I can only deduce that the audience for relationship couple WAM (and for the viewer, the fantasy of a WAM relationship) is fairly large.
I'm only interested in seeing women getting messy and I prefer to be the one dishing it out but I discovered along the way that I quite like to see a guy doing the messing (so I can put myself in his place).
When I very first shared media of me messing up the then Mrs Trouso I would never show myself in shot. This was partly because, until around a decade ago, UMD had been very much a strictly male voyeur's forum (if anyone wanted to talk about self WAMming, cross dressing or 'feelings' they went to the Splosh! forum). As the UMD membership absorbed the Splosh! forum (following Bill S's death) it definitely became a broader church for WAM and a friendlier place (I need to add that MessMaster was always very broad minded and friendly, but a minority of the original membership tended to strongly dictate what went on and didn't go on!)
I started to appear more as a protagonist as a great many people apparently wanted to see the couple dynamic and encouraged me to appear in shot more *
I've occasionally shared 'revenge' footage, although never sold it. Usually the model is very messy at the end of a shoot. The feedback has generally been that fans of men being messed want to see a clean woman carrying this out.
*This doesn't always work out as you can see by the roasting I got in a review for 'getting in the way' in a paid model shoot with Isla currently in the store.
So, it kind of depends. I can only deduce that the audience for relationship couple WAM (and for the viewer, the fantasy of a WAM relationship) is fairly large.
There are certainly several of us here who enjoy seeing a woman messed up by a guy.
There are a few couples profile that meet this brief.
I have spoken to several other members by PM who enjoy seeing this.
As Trouso said, it's good to see messy relationship WAM couples and nice to imagine that the viewer is the one doing the gunging.
Here's my view: It shouldn't be called co-ed if the woman isn't at least getting a messy bear-hug from the guy afterward, if not being pushed back into the mess she missed out on. She participated, sure; but if she isn't even doing her own laundry after the scene before going home, then she might as well have been holding the camera, and that's just not "co-ed" enough in my books. Some people need to build up the courage to becoming the "intended target", I get that, so if I know that the woman is a "WAM virgin", it makes sense that she might want to see how things go as the "giver", rather than a first-round "taker". However, after that, she needs to make a choice: In or out? If a "wallflower" chooses to continuously sit out the dance, I don't think they get credited with participating any more than the decorator.
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