Master thread for Issues and Technical discussion related to Bing Image Creator and Designer.

It looks like Designer has been updated today.
there is a hard limit to 40 prompt generations before you get the following message

"Looks like you've reached your daily request limit. Please try again tomorrow"

Previously, there was a 1 minutte cooldown that increased after each attempt to generate. This does not apply any more.

Aw nuts!

At least you're getting that today. Thus far (at the time I'm writing this), I've gotten the panda at least 10 times.

Not the dog, the panda. The panda indicates that the site is down.

remember that Bing and designer are 2 different sites.

Damn. Started getting that thing again where my model quality goes from realistic to 1990's 3d CPR instructional video quality lol. Once I start getting these ugly models back, I know I'm done for the night.

Remove the word, 'mannequin' from your prompts. Just kidding, but they do look like they could be standing motionless in a store.

Does adding 'photograph of...' help? Or any camera settings? It's as if the AI doesn't think they are supposed to look real.

Every one of my prompts starts with "photographic image of..." it's really weird. When I start getting images like this one, it will last all day / night. I just have to wait and try again the next day. If I'm being completely honest, when it happens it feels like the server is bogged down and my images only half process. Everything I get the rest of the day will either be like that, or I will get the dog over and over for stuff that I should not be getting the dog for. Like that picture, 2 perfectly clean and dry and clothed people talking, that will produce the dog as often as if I said "Oh, and they have huge tits!!" Lol. That said... One of my accounts was producing this kind of quality and blocking almost everything the very first time I used it, and it went on for months. I'm just starting to be able to use that account to create stuff.

Perhaps try using the word "photorealistic". That may force it to 'switch' back to what you're looking for.

I've tried that, and "realistic photo", and it doesn't switch it back. It legit acts like it reverts to an older model before Dall-E 3, and with more strict prompt blocking to boot. Like instead of getting the "we can't create right now" message, it will let me create, but everything is crap or blocked lol.

I used to use "photorealistic image" when I first started tinkering around with it, and honestly... I think that's a prompt geared more toward Midjourney. I just ran the same very simple prompt twice. Once with "photographic" and once with "photorealistic". Photographic pretty much always gives me a fairly realistic image. Photorealistic almost always gives me what looks like a screenshot from a cgi movie. The first two images are photorealistic. The second two are photographic. For each prompt, I saved the best image and worst image of the batch.

EDIT: I had to change the written order of the images because of how they loaded. Some day I will remember that the last image needs to upload first, and the first image needs to upload last....

Ok, I sort of take back what I said. "Photorealistic" seems to do some things really really well. I still think it's very stylized and not as realistic as I would have assumed a prompt with realistic would be lol. But I will play around with it and see what it can do.

You need to think of the context in which the words are used for tagging. If you describe something as photorealistic then most of the time you mean CGI that looks pretty good. What you actually want are terms that refer to a photo, not something that looks like a photo.

Instead, try using terms that are pretty much exclusively used to describe actual photos, e.g. medium shot, fast shutter speed, 60mm lens etc.

So... Not unexpectedly MS has reacted to the celebrity images posted all over recently.
Designer filters changed yesterday and tonight it looks like things have changed again. I can't generate anything on designer at all currently. Instant blocks, even editing my prompts to are minimum.
Tested a few on Bing and they look like they're changing filters too.
Saw this coming a mile off.

Yup. I was having a hard time getting a prompt to work, so I used one of my working standby "rapunzel" prompts, and what wasn't blocked looked like barbie dolls. Like... literally barbie dolls...

Editing to add: I was signed into an account all evening where my MD prompts for the day were all used up, but Bing was good. So I spent the entire evening generating my "tame" images on Bing, and lets be honest, all of my images are pretty tame. I only had a few dogs a during that time. When I ran out of prompts for that account, I switched accounts. I csn't make anything at all on MD, and Bing is blocking 75% of my attempts with the same tame prompts I've been using all evening. They sure know how to suck the fun out of something lol. It's like having a Ferrari with the speed governed at 10mph...

Honestly, I'm surprised it's taken this long for them to do something. It's been 3 months since it's launched and these type of pictures have been doing the rounds since day 1. They released a filtered but still powerful model and within hours there were Nazi, under age, hard celebrity porn available. They've incrementally added filters but the recent celb stuff have pushed them to way to take a firm stance and effectively neutered the models with filters now.
I'm all for AI but releasing a model without the right guardrails is dangerous.

Their prompt filter is dialled right up and the image filters are either hard blocking or replacing terms of the prompt for something completely different.
Hilariously, I asked for a frog yoga pose and literally got a frog posing at a yoga class.
For now at least, I'm going to sit back and see how it plays out.

Oddly, as if a switch was flipped, I was suddenly able to make images on Bing again. Without signing out, just attempt after attempt, I was suddenly receiving 3 or 4 images at a time with the same prompts that had been getting the dog all evening. To top it off, it's like the daily limit had been turned off and I ended up with 300+ images saved without ever being told I couldn't produce any more. And that was after attempting to generate images for quite a while and only getting the dog. I never was able to do anything with MD though.

MD is absolutely crippled at the minute. Bing has been variable and up/down. So far, bing can still produce results but the prompt engineering is a lot more convoluted particularly if you are trying to gen more NSFW pics. It can be done but the prompts are quite sensitive to change.

They are still playing around with filters on Bing too so this may all change without notice.

was wondering if anyone had any success with the updated Microsoft Designer? Been trying to create new prompts without any real results. It appears to be even more sensitive than Bing Image Creator.

Designer is effectively dead now. their image allowance is 1 now before getting the we can''t generate any more message.
The filter is dialed up to 100 as well crippling it for most image gen. Even a safe image prompt like "A pretty rock" will at most get 1 returned.

BIC's prompt and image filters also seem to be updating regularly now. You can still generate with BIC but anything adult/NSFW needs a lot of prompt engineering. ALL my old prompts for BIC need rewriting .

I'm experiencing pretty much the same. I have been able to generate 3 or 4 images on designer since the latest update, and none of those were what I prompted really. Bing is worse than it was, but with Designer being so bad now, it almost feels like Bing has gotten better lol. It's sad, really. I mean, I get why they are doing it. But in the name of "safety" or whatever, they have crippled arguably the best image generator out there. Im sure you can do some awesome stuff with SD, but the little tinkering I've been able to do with it, it does not understand prompting as well as Dall-E 3, and I've gotten mediocre results out of it.

Designer's output was ahead of bing in image quality too. Bing's image quality is poor in comparison and even with heavy prompt engineering you couldn't get the same quality as designer.
If you look at Designer's generation now, it takes much longer too and I suspect there is a secondary image filter in effect. you would hope that once MS gets a handle on the celebrity and deep fake stuff, they will slowly relax the filtering again since as it stands it's no use even for SFW generations.
I'm having some success re-engineering my Bing prompts but it's slow going and even then I don't like the output. I'm more doing it out of the challenge.
On the plus side, I think I've got more images generated that I know what to do with. I need to sort through them so that'll keep me busy until something else comes along. It was good whilst it lasted

I just noticed today that when I use Google Chrome browser and Microsoft Edge with the same prompt, Edge gives fewer 'dogs'. I have an account open using each browser at the same time. I can only assume Bing 'likes' Edge, since they are both Microsoft products. Has anyone else noticed this, or is it just coincidence?

I attached a screen cap from just a moment ago to illustrate. Chrome is the one on top.

There is no correlation between browsers. I've never used Edge since day 1 and I'm pretty sure my outputs have been quite consistent. It could be co-incidence or as I've said a few times, one session may be logged into a different server configuration.
Try logging out and back in again and see if that fixes it. If not, clear browser history and cookies and log in again. I have had instances where an account gets soft locked.

Language comprehension aside, for WAM content Designer/MS Bing is definitely superior due to the amount of WAM data it has been trained on. On SD, you are pretty much limited to the SD models that are available which isn't an issue for adult content but for WAM content I can only think of a 1 decent slime SD model and that's about it.

https://civitai.com/models/210870/slime-v5

Probably the best slime/gunge SD model I've seen so far for SD. Some of the stuff this model creates look suspiciously similar to content on you can find on UMD.

It probably goes without saying, but I have also noticed that since MD kicked the bucket, Bing's "we are busy and can't do shit right now" message I would get ever morning is lasting later and later in the day.

So a few things happening with Bing and Designer today.

1) It looks like MS is in the process of rolling designer and Bing together. An update looks to have been pushed out that is linking the 2. if you prompt on one, the images are shared and viewable on the other.

2) The filters look to be the same across both platforms now.

3) For some of my accounts bing is broken. It looks MS is also pushing out a capcha when you click generate but this is broken, a small box/window is appearing under the generate button and prevents you from actually generating. The problem is, this box isn't working and is just returning Bing chat.

on inspection, this definitely looks like a capcha is coming when you click generate, likely to stop people spamming generate.
<iframe id="captcha-frame" src="https://www.bing.com/images/captcha/async/challenge?scenario=bic" scrolling="no" />

At the minute, I've only seen this on a couple of accounts but others have also seen this.

Well theres an glitch on bing image creator where an little white screen shows up near the create button which is ultimately getting on my nerves

It looks like this is supposed to be some kind of an assistant, sometimes there's a text saying something like "How can I help you?" in that white box...

This is what I mean with no 3. It looks like they're pushing a capcha out and it's bugging out