My girlfriend found this article ( http://www.buzzfeed.com/caseygueren/wet-and-messy ) overnight. I'm flagging this up because;

-As a WAM novice this all seems very off putting for her. Has anyone got experience of the concerns highlighted?
-Always nice to have media exposure to our world so that it becomes "normaller"
-The article actually linked to UMD
-It seems to suggest cake sitting is terrible

I thought the article being geared to those who are new to wam was more informative than discouraging. If you search through the forum a bit you'll find questions regarding amateur wam sex for the first time with a partner. Heck I have never sploshed any sexual partners but I know how to make it enjoyable based on what I have used on myself and what I read here on the board. Don't put frosting containing small gritty sprinkles near the inside of your girlfriend's vagina and using sugar free Betty Crocker or Duncan Hines cake mix with sugar free frosting when making a cake that makes contact with your girlfriend's intimate areas. Also it mentions allergies which means ask before you and your girl cover yourselves in peanut butter and jelly and try making a human sandwich. There are other alternatives such as almond or soynut butter(product placement) but don't use sunflower butter because of the gritty texture.

as im hoping my date does not flake tonight we had a pie fight set up up, but to the issues of smell and allerigies I have had people willing to put up with waming with me, but two wanted lactose free cream because one felt the smell was hard to get off, and the other because of allergies. I have a gluten allergy, and i still get sick if cleaning up cake batter so had to switch to gluten free stuff.
I agree don't get stuff in the hole, at least for me oral sex for me and the females i was dating, seemed to get some irritation. I feel a few times after a bj i was having a bit of pain possibly from the cream in their mouth?
i agree with the seed stuff or small bits of stuffto a degree cause if u get the mess in your eye and try to wipe it out I at least would be worried about something scraping? Just my 2 cents good luck with your gf

Hm. WAM is different from Sploshing you say, oh expert article, talking as though you have some kind of inside knowledge? Followed by a bunch of advice that's more going to scare people than do any good?

Mmmm. That's gooood journalism.

Sadly there are issues with the article like all things and buzz feed like many mainstream sources does use a bit of scare tactics to hammer in the idea of safety during sex. Heck most sex Ed courses make it sound like any pre marital sex is the same as playing Russian roulette with three rounds in the chamber. Sure common sense says condoms when having casual sex which was a thing the article did focus on towards the end as it slipped into things that destroy latex but there are condoms available through sex stores like romantic depot or Adam and Eve which go more with this stuff. I still say it is less anti fetish and more responsible sex encouragement with traditional American family values fear tactics to stress their point but not as badly as you may think.

It suggests not allowing anything with sugar in it anywhere near the genitals.

... in what way does that not basically wipe out a huge section of the fetish?

Scare tactics... scare tactics to that degree... is beyond idiotic. I mean, they could - like several places that have covered this fetish before have done - have said "It's safe enough provided you practice good hygiene".

But noooope. Gotta be as safe as possible! Gotta be soooooper careful! Gotta cover every damn thing in cotton wool, and never let people take a risk, because OOOooOOooooo.

Fuck 'em.

I mean... you talk about only using sugar-free stuff yourself for safety's sake, but... do you think that's something that everyone making WAM material does? Or do you think that people just clean up properly afterwards?

That's just funny DON'T GET VANILLA PUDDING IN YOUR EYES!

I'm sure the legal department added it...

I don't think it's supposed to represent what people actually do, but what they probably ought to do, which I suppose is noble enough. The problem with their approach is that sugar-free/gluten-free/whatever else is not as easily acquired and usually more expensive. That said, by their own admission there is no real research into whether or not using sugary mess is actually dangerous - just what could happen. This is intellectually dishonest, and definitely counts as scaremongering.

Still, this is Buzzfeed. If you were going in expecting quality, you're frankly an idiot.

You won't believe what this guy had to say about Buzzfeed! (except that you probably will)

The article didn't make me RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE like it seems to be for a few of you, but anecdotally I've never had a problem with sugary stuff "down there" on girls I've done it with. Hell, last girl I did it with had me get a cake with extra frosting then she sat in it and had me fuck frosting into her. It was hot, and it all washed out with warm water, because it's sugar and it dissolves in warm water. Amazing!

Agree with this, the article is pretty good but I've had pretty much every edible substance (and a few non) completely inside me and never had a problem at all. Gentle washing and no 'douching' or strong soap is the key part. Let nature take it's course and take a deep bath the next day if you suspect there to still be residue

Sugary things (syrups. treacle) are just as much murder on the eyes though as the vinegary or spicy things. I'll keep syrup out of my eyes where possible but it getting around or into the vagina is not.

Wow other than noise and candy custard who everyone knows. I realized this thread could probably be reposted on the wam anime funland yahoo group or the tellygunge blog and would probably have a few but not many new readers that still know exactly who the main posters in this thread are. Funny especially since I rarely see join on umd boards and on yahoo I have a different handle. Sorry tangent

Hehn. I'd noticed that myself. Weeeeird. o.o

I know I am bumping a thread that's a bit old but I just saw this now and had to quote this (and what Candy Custard said too) because I get sick of reading all the "no sweet stuff near the genitals" stuff trying to make it sound like if some mess gets inside of a girl during the sex that it will be the end of the world and an instant horrible infection of some sort. Sorry/not sorry if the rest of my post gets pretty graphic but I need to rant...

There have been several members who have talked about this like Candy Custard and also Gooey Phoenix back when she was still active (hell she had video where she shoved a candy bar inside herself and let it melt) and I think SweetnPied had a true story she told involving actually squirting a bottle of chocolate syrup inside herself. There were a couple of cool scenes involving messy dildos from the now absent Tawny Steele and one scene I remember called "Tasha Gets Dominated" were she was all covered in slop and had maraschino cherries pushed inside of her that I think is in the iWam members section.

Several of the lesbian scenes on Excessive Mess use dildos and the "Pussy Cream Pie" vids in particular are totally filthy with the amount of mess all over the dildo sliding in and out of the girls! I also remember several of the other UMD members talking about the old CrazyGirls "gunge tube" scene where girls intentionally had mess poured inside of them through a hollow dildo/tube lthing.

I am not saying there is ZERO risk involved but like plenty of others have said in this thread and others, if a girl cleans herself well with warm water and doesn't overdo it with soap and feminine hygiene products the risk is fairly low. Tons of people in our fetish engage in messy sex on the regular both on and off video and I doubt everyone is being careful to stop and wipe there genitals off before going at it.

I personally kind of find it a huge turn on and while some have asked if things have gotten too explicit I kind of wish things were sometimes pushed even further with more hardcore sex and complete coverage and messy pussies. I feel it is kinda one of the last really taboo/rare things in WAM now days and find it so hot when someone is so worked up fingering themselves of fucking or whatever that you can see the mess getting inside them. It is like the ultimate "giving yourself to the mess" sorta thing. A pure hedonistic "no fucks to give" type of vibe.

If anyone had a chance to see the XXX video Kaydens made before closing her store you would have seen that video was FILTHY, she was literally fingering cake and frosting into herself and dipped her sex toy in cake batter before fucking herself with it. Guess what, she was perfectly fine, she had fun, and she even made me another similar custom for me after that one so I doubt there were any "issues" she had.

Sorry for long post/rant and for being graphic but the scare tactics need to go, they're going to stop girls from trying WAM sex with their BF's and personally I think they are holding back some producers from going wild with some really kinky stuff. I get why people say you should be careful because yes someone out there could possibly (rarely) have a bad reaction if they are not thorough (proper) with the clean up but the scare tactics in that article could freak people out over nothing like it did the OP's girlfriend.

That sounds awesome BTW Wambob, that to me is what WAM is all about: completely covered head to toe, sloppy, no holds barred, primal messy sex. Awesome you got to experience that dude!

That's it, in the interests of safety, from now on all our girls will be wearing goggles and plastic pants when doing wam shoots, our employers liability insurance would shoot up if we had a claim!


Seriously though!
Is WAM safe? Some substances can cause a mild temporary irritation, savoury stuff usually. But they are temporary, they go after a good wash and about an hour or so. Much more rare than normal and depends how sensitive someone's skin is.
Lisa actually has the most sensitive skin of all our girls, so she reacts when most don't.

This is funny but sort of sad in the truth behind the humor: I guess all the best humor tends to be satirical in nature though in these times we're in! I feel like with the recent (stupid) British laws passed (and the reaction from the BDSM community) that we here in the US are better off in a way at least since there isn't so much government legislation of morality/safety anymore but that the media scaremongering regarding safety (not just about sex but about everything) has just ramped up to a ridiculous level. If the media had it's way it would have us all scared of everything that isn't 100% risk free (and NOTHING is 100% risk free.)

Don't eat that medium rare hamburger, don't lay out on the beach without SPF 1,000,000, don't forget to take your antibiotics, and most importantly don't let your significant other cover you in chocolate before you fuck 'cause you **might** develop some dreaded vaginal irritation! It always has to be the evil(s) of sex too - the media has to run insane quotes from Michael Douglas about how eating pussy gave him mouth cancer - "OMG! we all should never go down again!" - I'm sure the cigars he smoked had nothing to do with it at all.

We are raising a nation of wimps at this point when our kids can't even play at the park alone or walk a block or two without other concerned parents in the 'hood calling the police on each other! Bleh! **End of Rant**

I'm sad that I have to agree with you on this. Things have gotten ridiculous!

Norman

Just more scare tactics. But...To each his own...

I get messy as fuck and I have a gluten allergy. Does that stop me? No. Will I work with cake batter again? If it is gluten free and the customer has to have it and will pay for it. Definitely. Just regular cake batter anymore? Sorry but no. I have fucked in all kinds of places in in various substances. Without an issue. Some peoples vaginas are a lot more tolerant of foreign objects in them. Know your body. Wash thoroughly. You should do that any ways..lol:footinmouth: