mrangry said: Odd random thought, as I'm bored!

Its strange, when you think about it, that I like to see a really attractive girl, dressed in very smart, or sexy clothes, fully made up and looking really sexy and attractive, just how I like a girl to look, in an ideal way.

When you have gone to the trouble of getting a lovely lady to dress to your exact specification, what do I then like to do?

JUST TOTALLY TRASH AND DESTROY HER!!!

If she was dressed in something I'm not keen on, like tights, flat shoes, trackie bottoms or whatever, I wouldn't want to destroy the outfit so she would get away with it.

RobbyWLP said: How do we know that the contradictory nature of WAM is not a contradiction itself?

What if even discussing the contradiction of the contradictory nature of WAM opens up a hole in the Gunge-Pie Time Space continuum where a pie was never throwing nor a drop of gunge dropped?

What if Noel's House Party was not really a house party?

What if You Can't Do That on Television was actually on radio?

What if Tiswas Tiswasn't?

What if Soupy never sailed?

You all think this is easy doncha?


Robby
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Potatoman-J said: I could say something profound from the Tao se ching but instead I'll just post this picture.

Trouso said: Mr Angry. What you describe sums up the essence of it for me too.

Splitting hairs, I might call wet and messy fun a paradox rather than a contradiction.

Mess is matter out of context. Custard is out of context when dripping down an evening dress. Therefore, it's a deliciously naughty and decadent thought.

What's the last thing a woman would wear if she knew there was a risk of spilling food on it? Then that's the more appealing garment to be wearing for a custard pie fight!

sirclock said: There absolutely is a contradictory nature in WAM, and at the root of quite alot of of other sexual fetishes as well... It's always a good idea to be exploring the nature of why we have this kink, fantasy or obsession.

The nature of taboo is essential in many fetishes. The fact that we are still historically crawling out of the victorian age, where sexuality was so suppressed and demonized, has alot to do with where these cultural taboos stem from and why we are attracted to them. The act of "taboo busting" is liberating. Who wants to be prim and proper always? Getting messy is a "busting out" of socially accepted or normal behavior. Yet there is also a humiliation / degradation aspect to WAM, why? Because it is to have one's "put together" appearance apparently tarnished or "ruined" ... Yet there is something empowering about that as well. Culturally women have more pressure put on them to appear beautiful and put together, to witness a woman having that basically teased and mocked by pieing or slimeing her is catering directly to that cultural image being broken down, while the act itself is simultaneously highly sensual, submissive and feminine... A depiction of raw femininity and a teasing of gender roles simultaneously... For me, what is most erotic is a beautiful woman who is confident enough to willingly and playfully be mocked and teased publicly, because it is a portrayal of her own liberated state of being; She is radiating her sexuality and femininity behind the veil of that in itself being culturally considered "yucky" or "gross" because it's taboo... I find that revealing, again, because historically femininity, women, sexuality in itself was basically considered taboo for thousands of years, and now we are finally reveling in it.

When someone genuinely desires to see a woman actually get humiliated or be uncomfortable there are elements of sadism wound in, which is an entirely different beast and psychology in itself. Most people with this fetish do not actually want women to suffer, yet they still get hugely aroused from seeing a willing woman do something taboo that basically appears as humiliation but is actually a enjoyable, even sensually blissful. It's really the combination of something that is so sensually charged with the taboo of it also appearing also degrading (like how public humiliation TV shows truly are) that makes it so erotic. There's an attraction/repulsion magnetic game at play. The other elements are of course dominance and submission. Someone getting messed up is in a submissive role. Again, usually people prefer to see someone willingly take on a submissive role, then say, someone being forced into submission via sadistic dominance and abuse.

In the act of "submitting" there is a surrendering that takes place that is also at the root of many sexual fetishes. In the act of surrendering, or being tied to a chair, or put in stocks, again there is a liberating experience inherent in simply letting go to what is unfolding. Again, what unfolds is a highly sensual experience that is also simultaneously considered humiliating or taboo think about that in terms of transcendence. The highly erotic and sexual experience is allowing for a liberation out of the cultural norms and stigmas. It can be a way of liberating out of the fear of being manipulated, or forceful degradation, or it can liberate someone from the guilt of desiring to "trash" another person, by reveling in the fact that the enjoyment goes both ways. The classic erotic phrase "Let me have it." carries much of this similar liberation, releasing of the previously (culturally) suppressed beast in man and women, to be "grown up" or "put together". In particular this fetish, like many, allows for a return to the unabashed playful spontaneity of childhood, where there was not yet such a conditioned divide between right / wrong or good / evil but rather a profound sense of life being a journey of exploring, and an adventure of simply playfully experimenting and trying things out, what feels good, and what is fun to do.

This is a long-winded post, but I wanted to get it out because I think that this fetish, like many, is really something that can be tremendously empowering and healing to the human psyche in addition to being alot of fun. Being aware of these dynamics I don't think ruins the appeal, but actually allows those with this fetish to keep pushing the bar of just how ecstatically blissful, sexy and liberating this kind of play can be while also reflecting back to us our own unconscious desires and conditioning.

DungeonMasterOne said: I think we probably all would rather see someone gunged in a favourite outfit, but what counts as a favourite outfit varies by the wammer

Lapwingboy said: but you get a tasty snack too

Johnny_Yen said: I like 'em best nude or in strappy, sexy lingerie and stockings.

Or maybe with leather wrist cuffs and some jewelry (necklace, drop earrings)

Many are turned on by the ruining of the outfit, but that doesn't even enter into it for me.

I can't imagine why a boilersuit would be an appealing outfit in any circumstance (unless it came off quickly to reveal elegant lingerie). This observation is not meant as a criticism, but only to lead to this question :

"Is there an outfit that any WAMMER finds appealing EXCLUSIVELY in the context of WAM?

For instance, does Dungeonmasterone find boilersuits appealing for bondage? Or spanking? Or tickling? (Or whatever).

I think we all simply hope, desire, prefer that our partner to be visually appealing.

Maybe that statement sounds painfully self-evident and obvious, but if such a statement is true, then there's really no "contradictory nature" to WAM at all.

Johnny_Yen said: We like to WAM what we prefer to see.