Has any custom producer here ever been offered a custom that just crossed one line or another, and thus refused to do it? Or is it always a case of money talks in a non-kink shaming environment?

I think that depends on the producer in question. I know Jayce has done some stuff with blended fish that most producers and models wouldn't touch.

Dear God...!

I'm guessing requests that are more hardcore than the model/producer is comfortable with are an occupational hazard. In that case, no amount of money will get it done.

In fairness, they might not all be from creeps, and some could be from over-enthusiastic fans who have simply misjudged how far their favourite model is willing to go. Then again, some of them sadly will be creeps...

A producer once told me she got a request to be pied multiple times while pretending to be dead.

https://wammerific.umd.net/download_info/humiliating-and-grossest-savor

There you go, if you got something bizarre or borderline illegal, Jayce is your woman!

I love you Jayce!

As was often said of Fi Stevens, we all fucking love Jayce.

Years ago I exhumed Bea Arthur's corpse (long story) and to my dismay I have yet to find a wam model who wants to film a scene with Bea. Maybe someday!

This is a great idea for a thread. I hope some producers get around to answering seriously.

Ha. Yeah. Surprised no one has chimed in yet. They must all still be traumatized.

Thanks! Me too!

fuck it, ill chime in!!

heres my gig. I know, from dating one person, that a kink is a kink. What gets you there can be a small thing that may seem different or weird to other people but its YOUR thing. that is why i dont criticize or even try to analyze why people ask me to do different stuff.

honest to goodness, i havent gotten as many "different" customs as i would like! i have told people i am a total equal opportunity fetishist. wammer, etc. there are boundaries i have, not bc i think someone is a total fucking weirdo...just bc i dont feel comfortable doing it. thats all.

i have done some stuff that you all would be like "WHAT IN THE FUCK?" but, lets just say, i got paid, it wasnt that bad and my customer was happy.

sadly, i think people give other people too much shit (one thing i wont do guys, sorry) about their kinks and make them feel weird. they just have a thing...and im happy to oblige. if i am doing something a little out of my comfort zone, yeah, i do charge more...but hey, im obviously doing something you get to see very few women do for you so i think my prices are fair.

also: robby. you never cease to make me laugh my ass off this early in the morning but i would totally act like i was dead while getting pied! would i have to probably cut out parts in editing where i start laughing?? probably. but hell, i have wanted to do a "dead" photoshoot for a long time, closest thing i will get i suppose, if anyone ever came to me!

i have had people ask me to tear up a real bible or wear a cross and rip it off my neck...basically, catholic school girl gone bad. i have gone back and forth with it. I believe in GOD, a higher being that I call GOD but I am not real keen on the jesus fellow....so, i cant decide if im okay with actually ripping up, what may not be MY sacred text....but someone elses. Even if I got a fake one, I am pretending to rip up a sacred text (to some people) but i found this custom very very normal of them to ask. just watch any type o negative video ever....lol.....its pretty much the vibe. haha. and those are music videos played all over mtv (or WERE when mtv had music, ah the good ol days)
i think the catholic school girl gone bad is hot as fuck. its just that part that i am still juggling with. bc i respect everyones religion...i feel like it could be a slap in the face to that particular one by acting out ripping a bible. thats all but i totally get it. its hot to see a good girl gone bad! i actually LOVE the idea. so, if anyone wants to chime in about that, anyone who understands what im badly saying without the use of paragraphs or periods, chime in.

but i will do some fucked up shit. i dont judge. what gets you there, gets you there....the only thing i have to say to people that want some stuff that is very different, is to be prepared to pay a different price. We cant sell it in our stores, we cant use it for promo and typically it can be hard for us to film bc it IS very different. sometimes we can be a little uncomfortable but I am willing to do it bc I do like to make people happy and shit, lets be real, I like to make money. I find that people that ask me to do different stuff are a lot more appreciative anyway. I like dealing with them more because they are kind and understanding. so, bring on the weird shit! im down!

honest to god, the worst thing i probably ever did was take mouth fuls of that river mud. jesus christ, almighty. oh my god. im talking fucking RIVER MUD. wooooo weeeeee. i took a round of antibiotics and vitamin c after that! Id like to see what else i can do bc as far as mess goes....ive done a lot. mixing mehron with baby oil GEL. okay. bad fucking idea. my hair was silver and i had to walk into my salon with silver hair...and explain why. in my small ass hometown. my hair wasnt the same for a couple years. i have done stuff that has messed wtih my vag, my hair, left freezer burns on my body, bit by a snake during shooting and kept going, the list goes on and on.....more random people than i can count have seen me naked. i have ran down a busy down town street in nothing but a .7ml tarp before...cars honking and everything....my step father had to come get us out of a mud spot before....while i was in a school girl outfit. that was FUN. lol. omg. i have hidden under tables when people have come knocking....i have set of alarms in super nice hotels bc the steam in the shower set it off during a private session and had to take about 300 bucks in wam mess and shove it into a closet....ive had to go to appointments with mud still in my ears...lol. yall. ridiculous. ariel could add to all of this. we have endured some fucked up shit.

honestly, i really enjoyed doing that video. the guy asked for the mess and i made up the whole "idea" it was around valentines day so i came up with the "come home to a surprise" deal but you "cant have the surprise you always wanted until you do THIS in them" i especially like the ad libbed, me stabbing the giant balloon out of anger with a knife. hahah XD so, the whole "lead up" to the mess is pretty fun. I liked being able to have freedom with that. and then the mess. wow. that was fun. it wasnt as much the smell as it was the SKIN and the scales that cut me and stuff....and yeah....haha. honest to goodness it was just wamming....just hardcore wamming and it was a rush. for real. afterwards there is a small shower scene where you see me laughing things off, like rinsing myself....and well, you will see...its pretty funny at the end. honest to goodness though i have a lot of hardcore shit that was even harder to do than that one. the cold ones i do? those are insane. that is real deal cold shit on me. right from the fridge! those are INSANE! the rush is insane. the storylines are usually pretty cool leading up...but dear god. whew! its crazy as fuck! the mystery substance? insane as fuck. that stuff is fucking.....indescribeable. dixie could barely take it! i called her a pussy but once ariel got into the tub of it, she was like "okay, i get it, dixie is not a pussy, you are just used to this or something" bc it was crazy. you can barely breathe. it sucks you down! outdoor cold water orgasms, mud stuff in mud where im pretty sure im not going to be able to get out. haha! its all a rush! omg ive had too much coffee. im gonna stop now. haha

Damn, Jayce! You are one awesome person to go through all that stuff! I don't think you get near enough props.
Though now my curiosity is peaked. Have you thought about posting some of this stuff on loverbuns.com?

Absolutely amazin Jayce! Thanks for the input, and I should add I hope this didn't come off as asking people to totally rag on other people or shame them. Just interested to know if anything, for any reason at all, took you outside the comfort zone.

Jayce's willingness to be dead and wam with fish, but her consideration of being catholic-gone-bad is an incredible insight, and why I wanted to start this! Learning so much.

Each to their own, you're all beautiful!

Wouldn't like to say.

Anyway, Jayce has used up all the words on the server

The only ones left are 'oxyphenbutazone' and 'quandry'

dont hate, trouso!! but i totally did. coffee buzz was kicked in high gear! i love your stuff, btw!! i am always looking for new updates! beautiful and messy as fuck. i love it!

Sorry, Jayce. No hate intended. Ever. Never would

indeed. it was. it was a time where the day was super hot and they had been dumping river water into the mud. the mud was watery. what i assume happened is a snake was dumped into the area and when i was walking around it was barely still alive but alive enough to bite me. i thought i had just stepped on something weird and kept going and then it started to throb pretty bad but we had ariel, nerea and omgitskelsey i believe, out there that day....so once i got out and we were all kinda rinsing off a little bit, i see the bite on my foot. i didnt say a word bc i didnt want to scare anyone. i just kinda thought, "okay, ariel is my best friend, if she sees me having a seizure, there is a hospital on the way home" lol. but i knew that if i had not already started to get sick that it was just your typical water snake. nothing to fret over. once you live on a farm, you worry when you need to start worrying. if it would have been anything bad i would have not even been able to finish the filming. it didnt even sink its fangs in all the way bc it was in muck. bout half dead. i think it was a total fluke bc they had JUST pumped that river water in and the snake was starting to die but was still hanging on. lol. i cant remember how long i waited to tell ariel. maybe till the end of mud season, maybe?? but honest to goodness, you arent going to find snakes in stuff like what we are in typically. total fluke, man. just happened! its my shit luck. im sure you have way better luck than i do. i cleaned it and it was fine

Mud snakes ARE a thing, they're usually black and red, and non-poisonous. Ophidiophobia puts me on serious edge when going swimming at any creek, river, or pond. Water moccasins are particularly terrifying since their bite can kill you or cause gangrene.

One guy wanted one of my models to step on a nail before I pied her. I passed.

Did I tell you this?? Back in the day when I still did customs, there was a fella who approached with this very same scenario. Likely he has approached others with that request. He also wanted a separate non wam photo shoot of me appearing to be dead. I'm actually *not* down for whatever, haha 'cause I'm pretty square, I guess? I try not to be judgey about people's kinks but that was a request that I don't think I could do well. Sure found it interesting, though.

Other requests: scenes where I would have very visible bruises and bite marks on my body (!!) and black eyes were a plus, watching me eat pies and cakes rather than be hit with them, and playing a giantess where I step on or crush little toy soldiers with my butt. Ouch - that would hurt.

Mostly though, over the years the vast majority were pretty straightforward - you know - non nude glam wam but with nudity at the end, with white socks and a bikini, and the socks have to be the perfect shade of white (and if they're not white enough the whole fucking scene is ruined), with bare feet and real pies and shaving cream pies, I have to wipe my eyes but only after every third pie, and I have to act humiliated but also have to laugh and smile and have a good time, and all that other stuff that producers have to try and figure out on a regular basis.

Anyway, I think some people might be reluctant to post in this thread because they don't want to appear to be calling anyone out. Just a thought!

Bee

No, it was a producer who no longer produces

And I'm not giving up on the Mrs Bee clown custom

You cover yourself in blue body makeup, sit in the freezer for 20 minutes, and lie still for a while. EASY JOB, LADIES. Jeez.

There's certainly a lot of that "I don't want to piss off a good customer by mocking their custom idea publicly" mentality, for sure.

I basically didn't do ANY customs for close to a decade.... simply because I was working with mostly college girls who weren't full-time models, so even a bikini was pushing it.... and almost every request I got was crazy. The one time I did it (simple scene with the girl wearing a sweatshirt inside out).... I did it "wrong." Filmed the scene first, assuming the customer would pay after it was shot. Surprise! They didn't!

ANYWAY. Over the years I've done the occasional custom and it's always gone well. If the request is in my "wheelhouse," we're good. I do think full-time models like Jayce have an advantage here.... You field the request directly and decide for yourself.

Whereas I'm the middleman. I get a request, then have to decide if I can do it justice (I'd like to think I've never 'half-assed' a custom, and I turn down some good ideas simply because I know I can't pull them off)..... THEN I have to try to find a model who's gonna work for the custom AND agree to do it. Which is trickier than you'd think.... As many models as I shoot, there's only a tiny handful that are super reliable and "local" enough to do regular customs.

Oh god. Please say this was Trevor.

It was... 2005?? I honestly can't remember.

But inside-out sweatshirts, like white socks, seem to be one of those very-specific niche things within WAM that multiple* people want to see.


* possibly just 2-3 very vocal people

I mean I as the author of the post even have the sweater kink, but neiher sweashirts nor any need to be inside out make sense to me!

I truly think the era of the wam producer is over (or very near it).
The future will belong to the producer who can make very niche-within-a-niche customs a reality:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/jul/29/jon-ronson-bespoke-porn-nothing-is-too-weird-all-requests

I want to know if everything was exactly right. Maybe the client forgot to mention it was supposed to happen in Saskatchewan during a hail storm, during a solar eclipse, with two ducks having consensual sex in the background. Personally, I think the last part would be the hardest.