Good evening my Wonderful Wammers

I'm just editing some new scenes and playing around with some of my existing scenes (I'm learning as I go) as I'm the director, performer and post production team I have just found some really cool slow motion tools on my editing software.

How do people feel about slow motion in Sploshing scenes?? Seeing the mess in real time and then a cut away to a slow mo of a pie hitting my ass or custard splating over my head as I'm gunged from above or batter filling my knickers and over flowing?? Do you think it adds something or is it just distracting to have things slowed down??

I've uploaded a very short example, I've slowed this full mud submerging down by about 4 times and you can really see the silky, gooey texture of the mud as I move through it at this speed.

I'm just really interested to hear what fans and other producers think of slow mo Sploshing??

Thank you my darlings

Big messy kisses

Brooke Xx

I really like it but got asked not to do it in scenes by a few people. I considered tagging it onto the end of videos but then I just kind of forgot about it over the years.

I did it just by slowing the film though, I'd love to do it with a proper slow mo camera - think slow mo guys YouTube levels of expensive phantom cameras... that would be fascinating

I like slo-mo. It can be a cool effect. My only pet peeve with it--and I couldn't find your example so you may already know this--is when people slow down video that isn't shot for slow motion. Regular motion looks good and is usually shot at about 24 frames a second, so when someone slows down 24 fps video it looks like a crappy juttery collection of still images. If you can, shoot your scenes that you intend to slow down at at least 60 fps and you'll be able to slow it down by 2.5x and still get beautiful slow motion. Bump it up to 120 or 240 and you can really go to town with it!

Again, don't want to mansplain things, but for the benefit of any beginning shooters, there you go. Also an FYI to those people who upload TV clips on youtube and slow them. Not for me.

I personally only really like it if it isn't interrupting with the video so like it wouldn't be an instant replay but just an action for example the pie hitting your bum just once and not over and over again. And I definitely think it should be reserved for the best scene in the video

i love slow motion when did season with messdarla with use slow motion on my phone and shots where amazing

upload few on my instgram and look amazing . no audio but love it !

It can be really sexy in WAM when someone is getting splashed with a heavy substance or doing anything naughty. Like in Jayce's mud scene from months ago where she had people watching and proceeded to play with her dildo, she slowed that part down and it was a nice effect. Arch Nemesis has also used it well. I don't always want or need slow-mo, but it can be employed very effectively.

No preference either way, haven't tried it myself, but have found the slowmotion feature on mobile phones is good quality. Better to film it in slow motion than slow it down afterwards.

I like slow-motion, done judiciously, but perhaps only a few times. It's like watching a football game. When it is done properly, it ADDS to the experience. But when it's done too often, as I have seen some videos where the entire thing is in slow motion, then I don't care for it as much.

Keep up the great work, Maddison. And remember, just be yourself. That is what your fans love about you. I know it is what I love about you.

I think it's something that can be effective in small doses. E.g. you might have a sitcom where someone walks into the room carrying a cake, then trips over and launches it into the air. At that point, showing it flying across the room in slow motion could be good, interspersed with the reactions from the various characters.

However, one issue is sound. Speech doesn't work when it's slowed down (it just turns into a low pitched zombie moan), and it's a bit jarring if the video suddenly goes silent. Music or sound effects might work, but that's probably beyond the scope of the average WAM video. That said, I recall a previous poll where a lot of people said that they turn the sound off for videos anyway, in which case this wouldn't be an issue.

More generally, I think this is similar to showing the same scene from different angles. I'd prefer to have a continuous flow (narrative), rather than an instant replay.

I'm definitely a fan of slow-mo! Highspeed WAM had some great stuff in this sub-genre.

I love being able to capture the moment the mess hits the girl's head, but she hasn't reacted yet. That split second is pure bliss! (For me, not her )

Honestly it does nothing for me, but I don't mind producers using it. I do hate it though when producers use it and don't include the regular speed footage as well. I know of one video like this that has an amazing mud dive that I've tried speeding back up myself, but I couldn't make it work

I will often find short segments of messy videos which I find very sexy, so with AI software, I'll slow it down. The AI software, made by Topaz, will actually create new frames based on the last and next frame and create very smooth slow motion.

To answer the question, I like it used moderately in wam videos, or added to the ending.

I think it's a great idea, if used sparingly to highlight particularly hard or spectacular pie hits -- its flight through the air, the moment of contact, the remains of the pie ricocheting off the face, falling down the cleavage, etc ... Or to trace in loving detail the journey of a jugful of custard into a pair of shiny shorts being held open to collect the gooey mess ... and emerging down the legs ...

So yes: good idea

Thank you so much for all the amazing replies and incredible insight my darlings, that's so helpful and has given me a really good steer on where to go with my future edits

Just a quick one for the more experienced UMD users I've been trying to add a short 11 second clip to this thread to show my example of slow motion. It attached fine but then when I click post it doesn't upload onto the post?!?!? Can we only post pictures on the forum??

Thank you Xx

When it isn't overdone, yes. I'm not a fan when every "hit" is followed up with a slow motion version of the same.

Slow motions of a model's face are a particular favourite of mine. It doesn't matter how good or bad an actor you are, you can't fake the reaction to someone pouring cold custard into your once pristine underwear!

yes only post pictures that it . i post my slow motion on my instgram account but i have alot more !

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of any camera work and production "tricks" that distract from the real-time reactions and happenings of the scene. To me, everything in the actual moment is where the gold is.

While I love good slo-mo in general, I've RARELY seen it in WAM. I share a number of opinions already mentioned in the thread. While I don't mind the occasional slo-mo bit or two here and there, they are usually still a negative, because typically all they are doing is taking footage that was shot for normal rate and just slowing it down, without the extra frame rate or accompanying exposure differences to go along with it that are needed for proper slo-mo. I mean, I can just hit the minus key a few times in VLC and accomplish the same thing with any part of any video.

The absolute BIGGEST no-no of using it in WAM videos is not also including the regular rate version of it. If you wanna tack in a quick, slower replay of a key bit that was just at normal speed, then OK, fine. If it wasn't shot at high frame rate with the intent of slowing it down, then I'd prefer you not do it at all, but if you must, at least include the proper version. And yeah, there are some AI tools that can decently compensate for the frame rate thing, but it's still much preferred to either shoot for slow or don't include it.

Ideally, if you must include it, just tack it onto the end. Then those who wanna see that can watch it, and those who don't aren't interrupted and can stop.

Having said all that, if somebody were designing both the action and the shots specifically for slo-mo, that would be a different story. But most of the time, we're talking about some little bit being instant replayed from a normal video, which is just an interruption. The moment they do some silly mosaic effect or something like that, I realize that I just wasted my money on the video. Thankfully, I haven't seen that silliness in quite a few years. My 2 cents, anyway.

Don't think I've seen slow-mo in WAM vids since the days of VHS.

Agree with the people saying only slow-mo stuff that was shot at double or triple frame rate so it can be slowed smoothly.

My gut instinct would be to produce two separate files, one which is the scene at normal speed without any tricks or effects, and then a second edit that adds all the extras, and include both in the release so people can chose for themselves which version to watch at any given viewing.

Hello Brooke!

I don't think its so much of an issue with slow motion, but how you use it. I have seen it used to great effect, with just a few tweaks, and which specific parts you focus the slow motion on. Taking all that into consideration, just have fun with it. If you wanted a few tips, here are some personal suggestions, from myself and from a few ideas ive gotten from videos in the past ;

- Use it in a trailer first instead of a full video. Different methods of slow motion have different effects. For example, try slowing down the moment BEFORE the impact, pour, dunk, pie smash..... and then doing a transition to another part of the scene, slow motion, slow fade before the pie smash etc add another slow fade to another part of the scene you want to focus on, or tease us with.... and then at the very end, resume normal speed and show some of the pies, dunks, splats and sploshes. The anticipation can be pretty effective, and if you show both the slow motion, and regular speed, maybe with even some captions between the videos, it can make an otherwise quiet video have a lot of playful vibes.

- If you are going to use it in a full video, maybe have a short slow mo tease of a really intense scene at the beginning before cutting away.... or tag the full slow mo of the scene at the end.

- Play around with effects along with your slow mo. De saturate, close ups, reverse flow camera... have some fun and play around, find something that resonates with you.

- I find some of the best scenes in slow motion are those we don't fully get to appreciate at regular speeds. Things like watery substances, water itself, paint pouring, chocolate pouring, slapping a substance covered butt, these things are usually very fascinating to watch.

I hope these get the creative juices flowing. I can't wait to see some of the fun you have, and will be delighted with anything you share with us! Keep making those delicious videos <3

I'd add it an option something the viewer can choose to use or add just in case they don't appreciate it

How come they can't move faster?

In the typical way it's applied, slow motion degrades the quality of the video. I'd rather do it myself if I want it and have the video be unaltered.

Forgive me if someone stated this already, but as someone with some film/video experience I wanted to put in my two cents about slow-mo:

Filming in slow motion, whether it's digital or on celluloid film, is different from slow motion produced in editing. When you slow down footage in editing, you are stretching out the time each frame of film is appearing on screen. If slow motion footage looks "choppy," it's because the original footage was filmed with a normal frame rate that is being stretched out, rather than being filmed it slow motion.

Say you record a video that is 60 frames per second, and you play it back at 25% speed. The frames are being stretched out on your editing timeline to be four times a long now, so when played back, the slow-mo video will appear to be playing at only 15 fps, which is not the worst thing in the world, but it will look very noticeable next to 60fps footage played at normal speed.

The solution to this would be to shoot anything you want to capture in slow motion at a higher frame rate if your camera allows it. So in this instance, if you wanted to make your whole video 60fps but wanted a slow-mo bit that's at 25% normal playback speed, you would need to film that part at 240fps and then slow that footage down in editing down to 25%. That would give you the smoothest-looking results.

The problem is, if we're talking digital video here, shooting video at a higher frame rate uses more memory, thus you can't shoot as much video as you would be able to just shooting at 60fps, which already uses more memory than 30 or 24 fps.

So if you think something would be really cool to capture in slow motion, like a gunge pour or a plunge into that quarry mud (which looks amazing, btw), then you want to set your camera's frame rate to something higher if you plan to play it back in slow-mo later on.

As for what I personally think about it being used in WAM scenes: I think it's worth it if it helps provide a better view of the action, though I usually prefer to see whatever happened in normal speed first, then played back in slow-mo. Then again, results vary depending on the frame rate like I just ran on about I can be a bit pedantic when it comes to these things in video editing.

It can be very effective, if it follows the same moment at normal speed. However don't over use it or it becomes predictable.