I guess this is sort of a vent to let out some stuff, but I'm not posting this to be rude to people who enjoy wamming with older people.

I'm 23, and it seems I can't find anyone at all who's my age or a year older/younger anywhere.
I've been wanting to try wam for ages, mainly in cosplay, but the fact that every man/woman here is either in their 30's or lives in the US or somewhere else kinda makes me sad, as I said I don't mean to be rude you're free to wam with whoever you want, I just want to wam with someone close to my age and is near where I am.

I know rhe wam community is very kind and accepting, as I've seen from the past few years on here, seeing everyone getting messy and having fun is great and all, but I've not even done it yet due to this criteria I've set for myself.

Should i just try being more accepting of this fact or should i just give up?

Thank you for taking the time to read this, it's greatly appreciated

Well I'm 26 and I do get what you mean! I think people around our age will certainly visit sites like this they perhaps just don't comment as much maybe?

It often takes people a little time to accept and experiment with their fetishes and kinks. End result is that you find people already actively involved in fetish play tend to be a little older.

Well, don't give up, especially if all this makes you happy, is the first thing I'd advise.

But I do sympathise. I'm just hitting 40, and when this all started for me, around 15/16, I had NO IDEA what the hell was going on, and the internet wasn't there for me to look on yet. (It existed, I just had no way of accessing it!)

And then on one Saturday morning show, there was a girl, around my age, who seemingly had a wish to be gunged on television, and that happened for her during a feature. I didn't even watch that show normally, so it was absolutely random I saw it. That... well it didn't *change* things for me, but it certainly made me feel a bit less weird when I needed to! So you never know what's going to come along.

(I should say this is all relative as for myself I've never wanted to personally WAM - it's all about seeing it happen to others for me, and that's never changed in all these years)

It will be dispiriting at times, and yes, your criteria will make it more difficult to find someone, but they're your criteria, and that's not a bad thing, it's just what you want. Don't give up on it.

I miss the days when people 'in their 30s' were old.... Blah.

I think there are a lot of young gunge fans around, but they don't pop up much. It takes time to build up the confidence to post photos or posts, more likely to have housemates/live with family that makes getting messy difficult, as well as less money to get messy supplies or travel to others.
Back in my day, a couple of *slightly more mature* people were kind and showed me the fun of gunge, but it took money, time and confidence to do so. If you're able to extend your age range, it may give you more opportunities, but only if you're comfortable doing so.
Not sure if there may be a younger community on the tweetbook or instatok or whatever the young folk use these days?? I'm sure someone young and hip could let us know!

22 year old here, zoomers of the world unite!

But aye, know what ya mean. Not too many peeps in our age range commenting on here so its always nice to see more of us about.

Yeah, I know it's hard but I think it's always been thus. I've been on UMD since the start (I was in my twenties then ) and I can remember feeling exactly the same way: chatting (or the idea of meeting) with anyone who was significantly older than me just seemed weird and awkward.

But keep engaged, even if you're just lurking. You'll either spot someone you want to talk to, or someone will spot you

I'm 58 and just based on the experience of life you can't give up at 23 because you're not even started yet.

Personally I am 19 and not from the US or UK sadly as those 2 countries are wam hotspots. But yes personally I don't mind that I talk to older women at all but it definitely is always like the 30's ISH mark at least with like sometimes someone of my age range but it is definitely rare to find younger people

I just turned 40 this year, and feeling kind of old. But a 30-year-old female photography client just asked me if I could shoot wet and messy photos and videos of her. My point is that we never know when something out of the blue might happen. We can talk to potential partners about our fetish and see if they are open to trying something new and fun. I've learned that honest communication can open a lot of doors.

In 60, is this old? There was quite a bit of WAM stuff on TV in the UK at the end of the 70s/start of the 80s, which probably added to my getting into it

A majority of the users who are older have been on umd since the early 2000's or before.
I'm 29 and I can remember when there were few messy sites. UMD was my original safe haven and really one of the only sites that has survived past a year or two.

When I was in my early 20's I used dating apps with my messy pics to find other interested people. Most were not people who thought about it but loved the idea now that they had. A lot of times if they were really into it I'd refer them to this site. A few of them are now active members.

I would think with Holly on Ministry of Mayhem there would be a flood of next-generation WAMmers?

Is this the case where there's less 20-something crowd at UMD, or did they move on to other parts of the internet? Although TBH I don't know of any other place on the net that centralizes WAM stuff as well or as much as UMD.

23?! How cool is that I'm 22 .. well been on this site for 22 years that is Joke aside we're a big virtual familly forever young so you'll always find a place to write/read/watch here .

For real life wamming with a partner I think each Generation has had its way to find a special someone to get messy with. I probably cant teach you anything on finding a partner for one night to get messy with. I think you can find that with a bit of research, dont give up.
The one tip that seems to apply to all ages, once you find a special person in your life dont keep your fetish to yourself, the right person for you should love who you are. Respect and dont force anything. But after some time if the fetish is still no go with the special someone, you might be craving and live in frustration which will affect the relationship. In that case you would probably be better off searching for a new partner.

Cheers!

I totally understand where you are coming from, I'm 50 soon, and looking for a session with someone closer to my age, I'm not looking for a session with 20 yr old who could be my daughter, I'm looking for 40+ lady who offers sessions but the ones I've found all seem to be in thier young women in thier 20's, nothing wrong with that, it's just personal thing.

What I'm saying is that is is perfectly normal to want to play with someone closer to your own age.
Hope you find the right person soon

I'm now in my early 50's and I can remember as a teenager WAM was only in magazines like Feista and others produced in the UK, Sold in OZ. Then came the internet in dial up in the late 1980's no porn then. Its wasn't until the late 1990's that Porn in any form was on the net. This was then main stream in the 2000's. It was around this time I first found this Site (UMD) for the 1st time. I joined in 2008 and left the site due to working in the bush here Oz where there is Still No Internet in places. I only got the internet at my own house only 18 months ago!!! August 2018 !!! and my PC when in 1st Lockdown (March this year); Now 2nd (since Ok2nd of August / September) !!! This was due the the Aust Govt $4 Billion NBN Roll out and mobile phone coverage Network System.

There are Chat rooms where I have met people in their 20's from the UK who are into Splosh and WAM Big Time and I know a few of them as well here on UMD!!! So get in touch with me!!

23 year old here, I think the biggest issue with people our age WAMing is living with roommates/parents. Can't exactly make and enjoy a bucket of batter slime when the roommate could come home at anytime. Never had a session with a proper WAMer, but the few people I have been with have all been open minded enough to try it. Some had a lot of fun, a few liked it because they knew I did, overall good times.
The good thing about our generation is that most of us are open to new experiences and like experimenting with kinks, etc. So even if you can't meet a genuine WAMer, those in your life are probably willing to indulge you. If they know you are enjoying it then they will enjoy it too.

26 here and I think you hit the nail on the head with this. I had to move in with family a couple years back for financial reasons and haven't had a chance to get messy since.

admittedly the pandemic hasn't exactly helped matters either.

Now, do you want someone who's 23, or will you settle for someone who's "23"?

If I were you, I would concentrate on non-virtual people. Once you build trust in someone, ask him or her what they think about WAM and performing a little experiment.

I remember having this problem.

I was 25ish, and everyone was much older than I was.

Now I'm the old one.

Some things never change

It's mostly because younger people often don't have their own place. Getting my first flat on my own when I was younger opened up many opportunities. Not sure whether you are looking for a male or female play partner, but there are loads of younger males around who want to play if you can host. Females generally won't just turn up and play, unless they're paid, but that's just the nature of the beast.

Also, I personally find that people who specify a very narrow age range come over as a bit arsy or even creepy. 23yo seeking wammer must be 22-24 doesn't look very welcoming and 38yo seeking 18-39 is even worse lol

I think the biggest thing is not necessarily finding someone who is into WAM, but someone who you trust and can be open with that would be down to have fun with you. In my experience, I've always told my partners about what I like and generally they were cool. Some people were more down to do things than others, but it seems like the longer I've been doing this the more comfortable I've become with myself and I think being confident when talking about it helps the other person be cool with it. That being said, I got totally lucky with Natalie cuz she had already heard of WAM and was following accts like Messy Hot on insta so she was like "woah you're into THAT?! Cool!" So it really depends on people's personality but generally close friends and partners will generally be down. I've also noticed the younger generation is way more open to "weird" sexual things so, take that however you want.

I know, what you mean. So I write here, my story, because maybe I inspire someone, to not give up. There is always chance to met someone who will be yours soul mate.
For me everythink started at 13, I think, now I'm almost 30. When I was younger, I thought, that I'm weird, if I like mud and other wam substances, I know, that I felt like big pervert and I thought I'm alone in WAM. But around my 16, I discovered UMD and our local pages about WAM, quicksand, mud and I saw there, that people with this fetish exists, but I tought, that this people are much older, than me. Everything changed for me, when I met my current girlfriend. I was 24, she was 16 then. She was very inteligent, pretty, sexy, she liked sci-fi, fantasy, anime, pc games, etc., so things, I liked too. We fell in love almost immediatelly. But eventhrough we understood each other in almost everything, I had fear to tell her about my secret, that I like WAM, especially mud and that this things turns me on. When we were about year and half together, I gathered courage and after some beers, I told her about my fetish. I was very nervous, my voise was trembling, but her reaction was unbelievable. She told me, that there is nothing to worry about, she was very curious about it, she liked Idea of getting messy, and what more, she told me, that she want to try it as soon as possible, when there will be good weather. So after few weeks, we went outside to my favorite mud place... it was amazing session, she liked it very much and was amazed of how pleasant is mud she liked the texture and that feeling of mud on her body, she was messy from head to toe. And since that day we have WAM session often. In summer we like mud, in quarry especially and when is cold outside, we bought small kid pool, ideal for two persons, for oatmeal, pudding, slime, etc. Now, I'm almost 30, she is almost 22 and next month we will be 5 years together and we have ideal relationship filled with love and WAM.
So everything is about understanding, respect and patience.

Building off @dormant's response,

There are far more people who will be "open to" WAM than "in to" WAM.

Look in your area for younger groups into kink or other alternative views of sexuality. Express your interests as you listen to others.

My first WAMming came after attending a "The Next Generation" "munch" for a number of months. A couple that regularly attended invited me to a play party at their apartment and the wife asked me to bring supplies for a WAM scene. To her it was fulfilling curiosity and getting to do a domme-sub humiliation scene with me. To me it was getting a hot gal to WAM me...

Leorna: I have a big long sympathetic spiel for you - for your difficulty finding wammers who are as young as you - almost an "apologetic" spiel, since, I acknowledge "responsibility" for it, as a serious antinatalist, but, not quite, since I'm not changing my position -
but I'll save it - and just comment on my bodily age:

I "celebrated" 30 years of progressively more severe rheumatoid arthritis this past January 2020.
The RA started in my feet January 1990 (I remember vividly) when I was mid 25.
I got on a mailing list for women offering to wrestle men around about 1992 to 1993.
(A mud-wrestling magazine is how I first found out about Rob Blaine & Messyfun.)
I have been on one particular female wrestler's mailing & (now) emailing list since about then:
Malibu! It's been 26 to 27 years, and Malibu STILL sends me email updates of cities she's touring. And, about once in year, even CALLS me on the phone. Even though I HAVE NEVER
GIVEN HER ANY BUSINESS!!

I feel bad about that. I kept telling her: I need to get stronger with time, with age.
I need one more surgery to fix this or that, and then I'll be able to wrestle you.

I DID messy wrestle one woman whose name I forget, out on Long Island, NY,
in April 1996. My RA was only 6 years old, so most of my joints were still good.
But OMG!! I was helpless against her strength. I got winded INSTANTLY.
We wrestled 10 minutes tops, before she got too cold from the frosting and coolwhip
and other supplies I brought. The reality of it was NOWHERE near as enjoyable
as getting messy with a girlfriend who is in love with you.

No way could I ever do that again or wrestle ANY woman, let alone a professional
stunt woman like Malibu. So at my age, I am thankful there exist video producers
& women - young & old - who are healthy & strong enough & willing to make these videos.

I'm going to throw my $.02 in based on 30+ years of being into this (I'm 46) and running the gamut of experiences while young and older.

First off, it's certainly fine to want to be with folks around your same age. When I was younger I certainly thought it weird to connect with someone who could be or is close to my parents age than those my age. I think the difficulty when your young is that WAM, while certainly having grown, is not a huge mainstream fetish, so it's already difficult to find folks you click with and are nearby without adding age restrictions in there. So you need to understand it will be more difficult. Heck, it's still difficult for me. Even with willing people who I've clicked with, it's hard to be able to coordinate opportunities, or have the weather/conditions work out when you do (for outdoor mudplay).

Second, many Wammers that are young are still a lit unsure of things and shy. Outing themselves as a wammer is a big step, and meeting up an even bigger one. Speaking from personal experience, it's very easy to get cold feet, and even the first time I met up with someone, despite the fact they were incredibly accommodating and took care of everything and respected my limitations, I still had a great deal of "what the heck am I doing" feeling afterward. That, combined with still figuring out that I was actually gay and that's what I wanted left me gunshy for a number of years and keeping to solo play. So as people get into 30s and such, more and more realize they have nothing to lose and are just missing out if they don't explore these things.

I can't say it will be the same for you, but as I got older, my acceptable age range grew. Not so much that I was older myself, but I began to realize there often isn't a ton of different between someone 25 and someone 55, or even possibly older, relatively speaking. People age and mature differently. I've met very mature 25 year olds, and petulant as heck 45 year olds. Ultimately finding someone you click with and feel a sense a trust with is more important that specific age. You may get there yourself as you get older.

Ironically, I'm much more hesitant with early 20s people now than anyone older. Moreso because of my first point about many being shy and unreliable. I've also had folks that get very entitle after, immediate asking when we can do something again (with me arranging everything of course) and not even saying thanks. I've also had those that immediately get very jealous if I do something with literally anyone else, rather than recognizing that opportunities are rare and you need to take advantage. Heck, MuddyMcMudd and I talked for I think about 10 years before I got the opportunity to visit him, and the folks I've done WAM with together is still in the single digits.

Lastly when you mention "seeing everyone getting message and having fun" realize that you are getting a concentrated set of posts from a fairly wide range of people, plus those that are creating content to sell. I think if you asked most people on here, you would find the actual times are pretty few and far between, but because you see a steady stream of posts from different people, it seems like everything is getting messy all the time. It's actually one of the huge drawbacks of social media. Twitter would make me feel like that with friend. You could look and be like "man, everyone is having fun or taking cool vacations buy me (pre Covid of course)", but in reality you are seeing someone's very occasional time off, but if your pool of followers is large around, it will always seem like people are "always" out having fun.

Bottom line, whatever makes you the most comfortable is the best. But recognize the a narrow age range will make the opportunities harder. You can certainly expand your criteria, but I would only do so if it's truly OK for you, or else you might end up feeling awkward about it, nor do you want to end up leading someone on only to create a problem. For now, I'd say keep up your search and strike up conversations where you can. Build a level of trust and comfort before you embark on anything.

Hope this helps.

I'm 44 and I've discovered that life is a veil of tears,Jimmy,and it only gets worse!

Absolutely agree with Columbusmud.
A met older wammers/sinker than my age and not just here, irl too, and was a really good experience to being with them. Meeting a younger one is not always fun for me, depends his personality which is really important for me.