I'm sure no one wants to see another Kelsey post so apologies to those who this doesn't pertain to.
Anyone - esp those who identify as female as that is who "she" seemed to target- who sent KR sensitive material under the guise that it was a safe space and to another female- I see you, I'm here for you and you're not alone. I'm still not ready yet to fully speak on this but know I'm not going to rest until we know our content is safe.
Chloe of PieroProductions said: I'm sure no one wants to see another Kelsey post so apologies to those who this doesn't pertain to.
Anyone - esp those who identify as female as that is who "she" seemed to target- who sent KR sensitive material under the guise that it was a safe space and to another female- I see you, I'm here for you and you're not alone. I'm still not ready yet to fully speak on this but know I'm not going to rest until we know our content is safe.
The unnerving thing is that people made money from the profile. I think that plays a role in how the profile was allowed to stay up so long until someone decided to play detective.
TheWamdalorian said: The unnerving thing is that people made money from the profile. I think that plays a role in how the profile was allowed to stay up so long until someone decided to play detective.
If you think I knowingly let a fraudulent profile stay up so I could make a few bucks, then you've got a completely wrong idea about me and what this site stands for. Part of the reasons I maintain and pay for these forums is so that the community can expose bad people and situations like it just did. Let's not blame the victim and shoot the messenger here.
I don't want this thread to lose sight of the fact that a lot of people are hurt and scared that they gave this person sensitive material. At this point there are other threads dealing with the verified and ID issues.
I do feel that whoever this person is (but at this point I have a pretty decent idea of who it was) was very much against leaking material. I can't say for sure but I don't think they are going to retaliate or leak anything of others moving forward. That was very much against their nature.
That said- I was informed that Kelsey used my own unreleased material (That I shared with her in confidence) for one of her videos she made (not released on UMD) without my knowledge or consent. I do hope this was an isolated incident and do not wish to cause anyone the panic that I felt upon seeing this video.
At this point, I do feel this person will just lay low as they were growing agitated with the community before this even started.
Sending you awesome vibes Chloe. I've literally never seen you do an ounce of harm to anyone so I'm deeply sorry this happened. Jane and I send our thoughts and wishes to all affected. I echo what others have said to thank you for helping further bring everyone together in this time.
My wife had jokingly talked about doing a non sexual session w someone and I think I had sent this user a pic I had not uploaded to my profile before taking all of her pics down. I assume now the little chance of my wife feeling safe w another women warmer is gone, but kelsey had asked to tell my wife things from kelsey
I've been more troubled by all of this than I initially thought I would be.
I'm obviously concerned for the fallout of what Chloe mentioned above. I don't know how to resolve that, which is perhaps the most concerning part.
But, I've also found myself....worrying?...about this whole situation even though I wasn't especially close to Kelsey. We didn't DM, I didn't commission customs, I have minimal interest in chunky slimes, etc.
BUT, I remember some of my early postings here when I joined after lurking...they had to do with "trust." You know how the boards tend to take a certain shape from time to time and certain topics keep popping up? For whatever reason there were a lot of "how do I communicate my fetish with my partner/spouse/significant other/confidant/etc? I'm afraid they'll leave me over who I am."
And, generally, there was this really warm out pouring of support and respect. I found myself chiming in about transparency and trust and clear communication.
And Kelsey added me as a friend and said, "I like what you said about trust."
I'm mostly here to follow the few producers I really dig, and she wasn't one of them, so we didn't talk at all, but I did generally see her as something of...an ally? A kindred spirit?...on the forums, especially thinking in terms of myself as a Queer person figuring out the tangles of identity and fetish.
So, to find out it was all a ruse? I'm not in the same position of vulnerability as others, but I still find myself troubled, like I said. The disruption affects all of us in different ways, in varying levels of severity.
Idk if that's helpful for anyone, but I needed to get that off my chest.
BUT, I remember some of my early postings here when I joined after lurking...they had to do with "trust." You know how the boards tend to take a certain shape from time to time and certain topics keep popping up? For whatever reason there were a lot of "how do I communicate my fetish with my partner/spouse/significant other/confidant/etc? I'm afraid they'll leave me over who I am."
And, generally, there was this really warm out pouring of support and respect. I found myself chiming in about transparency and trust and clear communication.
And Kelsey added me as a friend and said, "I like what you said about trust."
I think I'm with you on this full transparency I obviously really wanted wifie to allow a fun wam session w another lady. Only0.00001 % of it happening we can always hope. My boo knew about the profile and wasn't into it, she had engaged with others randomly when looking over my shoulder. It's NOT her fetish but loves it gets me going. But this happened once before and I feel like I'm fucking up cause my fetish has made her feel more uncomfortable, cause Im the showing her the profiles.
She showed me her show about some killer/ fraud guy and got all worked up over how people who REALLY wanna believe something get screwed over. But making me think about my fetish cause it's shitty people lying and using false pretenses but I feel Iike she shouldn't trust me cause thinking w my dick first. She's taking the whole fake profile better than I thought but maybe she never thought "kelsey"/Tom or what ever was not option cause of the shit sliming she liked. She just told me I could post a few pics of her super messy like couldn't make iut her face and keeps brining it up but now I feel bad even wanting to post them.
Wow, I'm so sorry that this happened to you Chloe. There really are many levels to this which is overwhelming to process. And I'm here for you too, if you need anything.
I've found out that "Kelsey" was lying to others and saying she had met me and used a story that really happened to me and inserted herself into it. She was also offering to set me up with people and offered to vouch for other people's safety. To be honest, I was wanting to meet up with more wammers and have messy fun. And most coincidentally she and I always had the same tastes in WAM and sexuality, so I was relying on her experiences with people.
For me I can't help feeling guilty for believing in this person. I was desperate to meet another female wammer and make friends. Kelsey and I started chatting during the pandemic so I was at a much more vulnerable moment psychologically. My memory with dates is horrible and I don't remember when she first messaged me here on UMD. But one thing that has stuck out in my mind is how she would only communicate with me on Instagram DM's. When I left social media I don't remember ever hearing from her again except through the forum thread comments. She was always so public with her interactions here on UMD and that made her more credible to me.
I'm grateful that you're sharing what you have with us about your experience with Kelsey. And it really helps to have this conversation because we're all affected by this. I believe it will help to heal through this collectively since we experienced this collectively.