I've been thinking about something while working on a recent photo project.

A lot of WAM content seems to lean toward comedy, slapstick, and chaos.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I'm curious about the other end of the spectrum.

Do you think there's room for more fashion/editorial inspired WAM.

Things like:

-Luxury and glamour

-Visual storytelling

-atmosphere and mood

-close-up details and textures

-mystery and sensuality

rather than focusing primarily on shock value.

I've attached a few sneak peek raw unedited photos from a recent shoot I worked on.
Curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this style and whether you'd like to see more of it in the community.

There's room for anything in WAM if you find it compelling enough (within reason--many have tested that theory in all the wrong ways). I think the biggest hurdle is just costs. People have been going for "glamorously dressed women" and scenic muds locales, dramatic backstories, and uncomfortably close closeups since forever. It might not always look the best because it turns out getting genuine details right costs a lot of money, but it's clearly been an ambition for many a producer.

If you can see it, go for it.

Glamour WAM is really my main focus whenever I do a custom video. I need messy high heels, fancy ladies, and nice makeup and jewelery to make it the most arousing for me.

Cost is definittely a hurdle but I find it's well worth it.

im all about the aesthetics with my pies more than the actual mess they produce. if I don't feel like they could be there to be eaten its no fun! the prettier the pies (and the cherry on top) the better

Thats very similar to how Iike it. For me it's even more intriguing seeing everything before the mess

100% agree. There's something about the fact it's suppose to be eaten, but instead smashed in someone's face.

Actually these are really nicely made! Almost reminds me of a 'clip art' style pie with the perfect symmetry.

Honestly, I've drifted away from produced WAM over the last few years because so little of it genuinely appeals to me anymore. The clothes come off too quick, the focus is on the WAM rather than the models, their clothing, and their enjoyment, it switches to messy sex way too fast, the "luxury" is mostly imagination (women who look like they rolled out of bed and put on a worn-out generic prom dress described as "perfect hair and makeup, wearing a beautiful ballgown"), etc.

I'm not intending to insult any producers with what I said above. It's just the pattern I've seen recently that has pushed me away. Producing is expensive, and the type of scene I like is even more expensive.

My primary source of WAM during my teen years other than fleeting moments on TV or in movies were the rare wet or messy fashion editorials in magazines, so they greatly influenced what I'm interested in. I loved the older Eromaxx stuff too, where they started with glamorous models acting out a scene, and that slow(-ish?) buildup to the WAM was one of their biggest draws for me.

Shock value does nothing for me. It's the glamour, the storytelling (or as close to it as we can get in a fetish-oriented scene), the mood and atmosphere, the whole package that I really enjoy.

I love this idea! And it reminds me of an "unpopular" opinion I had recently (https://umd.net/forums/an-unpopular-opinion).

The landscape of WAM is certainly converging on certain themes that are widely popular and reliably sell. It's more than understandable and nobody is to blame except for maybe the invisible hand...

That said, I love seeing (and making, if I ever have the means...) content that focuses on the appeal of WAM that lies in the unknown: What is that beautiful woman (or man!) doing there? Why is that bakery overflowing with cream pies? The build-up is just as much fun as the mess itself (see: Any of the very many threads on this site dedicated to woman holding pies, and the like), and both deserve their time and place!

If it is a story line that you are seeking, you could do worse than take a peek at the videos and photos of the CustardCouple. They invariably include a story in pictures and text in their sessions. This would include glamour and retro scenes.

I love creating AI wam videos with huge amounts of mess. So to add to your questions, one of mine might be: "What is that cement-mixer filled with chocolate cake batter doing pouring it's load into a vent in the wall of the modeling school, rather than the usual one at the bakery, next door?" The mind takes over, the bakery likely has a vat that gets filled with batter, while the modeling school is filled with models wearing attractive and stylish outfits.

So yes, for me I'd rather see the unpredictable rather than another "Pies to the face" video or "sit under the gunge tank" followed by vibrator play. Maybe the same thing sells again and again, but I love it when a producer introduces something entirely new and unique, which does happen from time to time.

I'm no minimalist, that's for sure. But I love all those things you mentioned.

As an image-maker I like close-up detail. Most of which gets cut out of the download edits. I'm still compelled to include chaos in abundance with style and decadence! Expensive wardrobe items and naughty things like thick cream and paint.

I also love monochrome/black and white wam images. But I think I'm on my own in this chiaroscuro sensibility.

It's a pity we can no longer 'zoom in' on images posted here without saving them. The top/centre picture is all detail close up, but an abstract mess otherwise

Yeah that is an amazing scene concept! For me I enjoy seeing the model enjoying getting messy, it really adds to the playful aspect

There's certainly a place for more glamour type "artistic" wam photography.

Not only can it produce images that are particularly beautiful, visually attractive and of high quality, but I think when presented this way it's sometimes easier to use these kind of images when outlining our fetish to people who aren't aware of what it's about. This is because that pictorial style is often more focused on the individual or the aesthetic lines of the subject than the mess itself, and so it's easier to show to non-fetishists and perhaps with a higher chance they'll be able to relate to how it's sexy.

I recently downloaded this picture from these forums which is a perfect example of the type of image I mean.

I have this with cake sitting... I really feel the cake has to look perfect before it's sat on. Even though adding heaps of extra frosting might make for a bigger mess, just the concept of destroying the cake that's meant to look so pretty and be eaten is as enticing as the feeling of sitting on it!!

I can relate to this. I got introduced to WAM with some very aesthetic images, which I loved for both the visual appearance and the pure absurdity of being nicely dressed and getting everything deliberately and totally messy. This would have been different if it was presented to me as just a particular niche of porn.

That's why why I'm most of the times fully and very often nicely dressed in my shoots, and I pay quite some attention to arrange the mess in what I think looks at least a bit aesthetic.

If you look at popular topics here, they are often about real scenarios, game shows, TV spots etc.

Glamour/artistic wam is less likely to appeal to the desire for realism, and therefore become purely fetish content.

There is of course a middle ground of glamour in real life scenarios, could definitely get behind that!

There is of course a market for pure fetish content, though this is often more sexualised than glamorous, so maybe there is a market for a more artistic approach.

Not something I salivate after, but when Maxi & Aqua get together,
dressed in their best, covered in slime, gunk, or vivid paint,

The quality of work is that, good, one must take notice and appreciate their form of art.

This is where I'm particularly interested in for WAM. A T-Shirt and Jeans doesn't do much for me. If I'm going to spend $100 on supplies and hours in setup and clean-up, I'm sure as heck am not going to wreck a $20 t-shirt. Same goes for ordering customs, if I'm working with a producer and model, getting an expensive outfit messy for 2 minutes and nude for the rest of the scene also doesn't do it for me...I want the outfit the focus, and the models legitimate reaction (and dare I say hesitation mixed with excitement) in ruining a luxury or cosplay outfit.

For me, it's about the risk, the contrast from luxury and something that will ruin it.

Seeing Trouso's image of those gorgeous heels covered in paint, or OP's photos of whipped cream pies next to the pair of heels...that's what it's about, for me at least.

For me, I think it's the taboo nature of it. You're not supposed to wear your designer outfits in mud, your not supposed to ruin your Louboutins with chocolate syrup, your not supposed to fill your YSL handbag with baked beans.

Unfortunately, and understandably, it's prohibitively expensive. The profit margin from ruining a $2000 set of heels might get a few clicks, but realistically someone wearing nothing and getting messy nude is where the money is at.

But every once in a while I'll see an outfit on Splosh+ or Allwam/Eromaxx and I'm like "Is that a Valentino blouse?" "That looks like a Christian Dior dress", or "That's a Versace!". Knowing that the outfit likely costs $2000 and is instantly destroyed...that's the thrill right there.

Thanks everyone for your involvement within this forum! I enjoyed reading everyone's different perspectives on this topic.

I've now uploaded the completed album (Scarlet Indulgence for anyone interested in seeing the final images.