We've occasionally experimented with clothes cutting as well as gunging, mainly with rainwear initually after someone requested shredding in a custom scene. I was surprised to find how sexy it can be, and the girls thoroughly enjoyed it, so we plan to do a little more, on a very ocasional basis, including a dress-cutting scene as part of an upcoming set of shoots. But wondering in general, for those who like to combine clothes cutting with WAM, is there a preferred way to do it?

can't beat some good clothes ripping! My preference as voted for is messy first then ripped as well

I love seeing the outfit slowly go from pristine and perfect, to messy, then ripped, then finally in shreds on the floor. Candy Custard is a master at this, and always picks clothes to destroy that look so good on her that it is -almost- a shame to trash them

When I've cut clothes to shreds it's usually after they've been messed up simply because for me, the WAM aspect is primary to the shoot, cutting and shredding is the subsequent icing on the cake (my "Trash the Suit 013 set is an example - shameless plug!). I have cut outfits up without a WAM component ala Yoko Ono's "Cut Piece" concept but in a more slapstick style.

Another vote for messed up then clothes cutting here, but in hindsight I also enjoy the gradual destruction in the WSM Professor Treacle style. I guess it depends how much clothing is worn to begin with

Either way, I also view the cutting and ripping as the final icing on the cake to a fucked up outfit. There's no way back once it's in shreds on the floor.

Always fancied cutting a ruined outfit off with garden shears too

Cut the dress down the front and let her boobs pop out first as you peel it off her shoulders. Then the whole thing will fall to the ground nicely with everything you want on display the whole time. It's way sexier than cutting down the seams on the side. I may or may not have any experience with appeasing a boyfriend in the past with this sort of thing.

I'm definitely in the camp of mess first then rip as it is the final end to the outfit. However, I too like to occasionally just shred a whole outfit with no WAM involved. The sound of the material parting is lovely.
I have a whole set of gorgeous male and female clothes to WAM and destroy but am still looking for a studio to film it all in.

I like clothes ripping too, I used to do quite a lot of it with an ex girlfriend and also a girl from an escort agency I used to see. Primark was a great source of clothes to destroy because they are very cheap and also quite sexy and stylish too.

Summer dresses, blouses and pencil skirts were my favourites as they shred very easily. I used to put little cuts in the clothes in a few places round the hems and seams then tear them apart, I like bursting the buttons and the ripping sound!

Usually this was after messing her up, but sometimes without any mess as it formed part of role play

A classic example , LS productions , pie line video. 4 wonderful woman trash each other and cut each others clothes off , first messing there outfits then they cut there outfits open to expose each other till they are nude, super hot scene and a classic.

I also prefer first messy and then cut and rip. I like nice and interesting dressed girl which get messy and finaly cut and rip her whole outfit including underwear and shoes. And if she let with her handbag containing all her things is for me like cherry on the cake

I disagree with Justine, I love seeing an outfit torn up the side seams before the front is tackled to me that much sexier. But there you go, everyone has a different view

If I was ripping a dress of the girl I used to put a couple of small cuts in the edge of the dress, where the buttons fastened, and another one in the neckline at the back, sometimes I would also put a small hole in the side of the dress too. I would start by ripping the front apart so her big boobs, in a push up bra, would bounce out, then rip it down the back, so it was practically torn in two, then tear the remains off, leaving her in underwear and heels.

Oddly, I never wanted to rip the underwear, only top clothes

For me it depends on the outfit, If its a smart business suit with a sexy satin blouse under i like a little ripping of the jacket first, then the mess after and once the jacket is totally trashed and the blouse is visible i like nipple holes cut out of the atin blouse and the lady to play with her nipples maybe rip the hole a little bigger and then the mess to cover the blouse and skirt before going in and destroying the rest of the outfit ripping it to shreds. The noise when material is dry is different to when wet or messy so this way you get the different ripping sounds but both are incredibly sexy to hear and such a turn on.

I love to see outfits fully destroyed. I just think it's that bit more naughty knowing those clothes are finished and no amount of cleaning will bring them back.

One great session with my ex girlfriend, Anne, once involved a dress. To add to the anticipation we decided to go for a drink at the pub which was about ten minutes away from her flat, with her in the outfit designated for destruction.

It was a warm evening, so she thought she would do without any underwear, the little tease! We got the pies and beans ready on the kitchen worktop, then she emerged into the room fully prepared. She was a curvy brunette, with a pretty, slightly naughty look and a great figure, slim but with 34E boobs, and the dress I had prepared, with little cuts here and there, it was a size too small so she looked like she was almost bursting out, it was knee length, and buttoned up the front and all she had on with it were a pair of very sexy shoes, Pleaser Domina 108, they were called, in silver, 6 inch heels with ankle straps.

I put my arms round her and we kissed, passionately, with me running my hands over her, knowing that the dress would shortly be totally destroyed, she whispered to me, in a little girl voice, "I haven't got anything on under here, what are you going to do about it?"

We walked the few yards to the pub, arms round each other's waists, and when sat down with her drink she started to really wind me up, running her fingers up and down the stem of her glass and deliberately spilling some water down the front of the thin, tight cotton dress.

After about 10 minutes, I took her by the hand and walked back to her place, slamming the door behind us, and we were all over each other, before I got my messy revenge, by slamming two huge pies into her face, followed by another down her dress, then sitting her down in another pie, followed by beans over her head, then I tore the dress apart, throwing the remains to the floor, leaving her in just heels and assorted mess!

Guess what we did next!

Wow, fantastic set of responses so far, thank you all, and everyone who's voted so far.

Looks like "Mess first, then cut" and "Mess, cut, mess, cut" are neck and neck, with "Cut then mess" being less popular but still getting votes.

What inspired this is an upcoming shoot we're planning, which will be the mess, cut, mess, cut, format, where two girls in identical, and initially quite demure, outfits will have their outfits gradually messed up, and cut off bit by bit, until they end up totally drenched and wearing just soggy slashed ribbons of what were once dresses, with their completely messed up underwear fully visible. But very interested to see how popular the various options are. So far our cutting scenes have all been customs, might branch out a bit more occasionally in the future though. I've also realised there's a distinct difference between fans of cutting and fans of ripping, which I'd not considered before.

Very interesting to see the range of approaches to it too, I wonder if there's a difference between doing it live with a partner as opposed to watching on screen? @Justine's approach does sound sexy for a one-to-one, but would all be over too quickly for what we're planning to do, which will start with girls in floor length dresses, which will then gradually be cut down as they are being gunged till they are indecently short with deep-slashed cleavages and backs, before they get sliced off completely.

I Absolutely love ripping and cutting, it adds and extra twist knowing the once perfectly clean, smart, looking clothes, are completely destroyed.
Obviously this includes the shoes and all of the underwear.
When its added in to pretend humiliation with the willing victims protesting how much everything costs, or how new, or how special the outfit it... even better
My good lady often decides to mess me with something easily washable, but then will rip open my shirt, or trousers.. or both.
Needles to say, I've done the same to her..
Cutting n Ripping.... Hell YESSSSSSS

I prefer it when clothing is gradually ripped rather than cut, especially the finest in formal attire, as the noise of hearing each and every tear as it occurs is such a turn on for me.

In particular, the idea of starting off being a civilized, fully suited, booted and bowler hatted city gent, or dressed for the opera in evening dress complete with silk top hat, cane & leather gloves, or even wearing the most pristine military officer's dress uniform, before proceeding to have my finely tailored wardrobe gradually destroyed through mud, sweat, oil & toil, while enduring various misadventures in primitive conditions, until I end up as a muscular, dirty, sweaty tramp with my clothes from head to toe being reduced to filthy shreds hanging off my body, would be such a primal and animalistic experience.

I also prefer ripping to cutting as the sound of Silk or Satin ripping is incredible.

A mixture - messed whilst clothes are intact, more tearing, more mess, clothes fully off. Only issue there is potential slippery grip, and if one uses a sharp object to make the initial cut before ripping... Just be super careful guys.

Nice, new jeans - better if they're Levis, soaked, messed then ripped. The sound of denim being ripped is AMAZING!

Option 1 or 2
And yes more ripping scenes please

While I love close-ups, I always hope the camera gives us an overall view of the scene, including the legs & feet of the models

Personally, I prefer nylons (stockings or tights) included in ripping scenes. Even under jeans... they're so beautiful to see getting messy then laddered eventually

Thanks for the poll DungeonMasterOne

Who else has been around long enough to remember when the UMD had a dedicated Ripping forum?

I voted full mess then cut/rip but mess, cut, mess, cut has it'ts good points as well. If the option was available i would have voted for both hahaha

I prefer ripping over cutting whenever possible (there's something more sexy about ripping by hand compared to cutting) but cutting is fine when it's something that's very hard or impossible to rip by hand or to snip through a tough hem for further hand ripping.

Very feminine clothes as well as light or flimsy fabrics tend to be best for that reason because they rip so well by hand.

I gotta admit. That sounds awfully sexy

DungeonMasterOne,

Looks like you are going to be doing a really brilliant shoot, cant wait to see the results particularly if the dresses are similar to the one the gorgeous Maude is wearing in this weeks Langstonedale update.

I love to see the clothing completely covered before the final destruction of ripping (preferred) with the knowledge that the clothing is truly ruined. Seems to be a sentiment shared with many. What drew me to wet and messy content in the first place is seeing nice clothing destroyed. I enjoy seeing clean clothing ripped off a model as well, but find messing it up afterward not as much a turn on. When the clothing is ripped first, the mess is not destroying it. That has already occurred. There is a site called Ripping 4 Fun that features clothes destruction only.

Love to see very nice outfit such as leather completely ruined then ripped to shreds to ensure it is destroyed.
Or just even ripped without mess

Thanks both! Not quite that level of dress, though we are planning to send Maude into the mud in that one, perfect outfit for sliding down the riverbank I think. The dresses the two girls will be having cut off have long sleeves, empire waist, floor length. Think they'll look good dry, even better messy, and very good indeed being reduced to sliced up ruin.

Note to everyone, poll closes in 15 hours. Thanks to everyone who's voted so far!

DungeonMasterOne,

That is a far better plan for the dress because Maude and mud are the perfect combination.....