I would say 90% just do it for the money, a woman liking it very rare. Even those who I have run in to who liked it, its because it made me happy. Were it not for my request I doubt they would do WAM.
However if you do find a Unicorn please capture it and turn her in to the UMD science department so she can be studied.
MudMadPhil said: I would say 90% just do it for the money, a woman liking it very rare. Even those who I have run in to who liked it, its because it made me happy. Were it not for my request I doubt they would do WAM.
However if you do find a Unicorn please capture it and turn her in to the UMD science department so she can be studied.
Just my $0.02 worth...
Phil
Yep, absolutely agree with MudMadPhil My personal experience with all the models I've met and worked with is they aren't really into it. Now, there are that rare 10% of women who are into it, Mypierogative, Penny Banks, Jayce, and Larzstord are ones I think enjoy it.
I don't consider myself a model, but a WAM exhibitionist. I never thought of being a model or a performer before, I only started doing this because I am actually really into WAM and was looking to have the experience. I let people I met up with film and photograph me, and I ended up getting contacted by producers and I just fell into the modeling aspect of it. But I am a wammer first, I would rather have a genuine wam experience and orgasm than a photo shoot. So a lot of my messes don't even get recorded. I just get the strong urge to pie myself and I don't think about recording it, I just want to be in the moment and really feel the excitement and orgasm from it
Bear in mind there's a difference between "enjoys it" and "gets off on it."
People who get off on getting messy are rare in general, it's a niche fetish. Though having said that I've met several woman who genuinely do get a sexual kick out of it, so it's not as uncommon as you might think.
In terms of WAM productions though the majority will enjoy it as a fun thing to do, but not regard it as actively sexual. But will still thoroughly enjoy the sensations, the freedom to let go and do something really wild. I've worked with people who absolutely jumped at the chance to dress up and then deliberately get totally covered in goo. Plus of course doing it in a studio or dungeon set up for the purpose, where getting clean again afterwards is easy, makes it a whole lot more tempting to someone who's perhaps always fancied a food fight but didn't fancy the 8 hours of cleanup something like that would usually entail.
Very occasionally you'll find someone doing it only for the money and not enjoying it at all, though they tend not to stick around for very long or do more than a couple of scenes, and you can usually tell that they're not having fun with it.
But in my experience, most people who do more than a few WAM scenes are actually enjoying it, even if not sexually.
barryk said: How many of your models do WAM videos because they enjoy Wam, how many do it strictly for the money, or both?
Everyone will have different experiences of this from the models they know, and every model will feel differently.
For the models I know, it isn't really about the mess because they admit they don't like it, but there are lots of other considerations for them. For example, a messy shoot will usually be well organised, it will be easier to negotiate pay, there's a bit of downtime so they can chill a bit in the breaks, there'll often be other models present and that takes the pressure off with making conversation with producers and assistants, and there are other reasons I can't remember off the top of my head. So there are lots of positives even though they'd rather stay clean.
I can proudly say that all my models have made it very clear they'd be thrilled to repeat the experience, and one (LuckyLeaf) went on to open her own store.
I'm pretty picky when I screen my models. If they aren't going to have fun doing it, it comes across in the performance and lessens the quality of the shoot.
At least two of my former models "really liked it" (Tamara) or found it to be "so much fun" (Maddy)...another model was what I would call 'wam curious' (mostly chocolate) and had her own ideas about scenes, wardrobe, etc. There are plenty of models (and women generally) who like getting messy (for fun, some for the sensation, as with being slimed/gunged)..and one ex-gf ( a 'private model') who was "into" wam (mud, slime, pies) for both the sensation and humiliation aspect.
barryk said: How many of your models do WAM videos because they enjoy Wam, how many do it strictly for the money, or both?
I STARTED doing it for money ---
my sister aka jilly asked if i wanted to do some pics for money for christmas....mind you....I had a one year old...my body wasnt back to normal yet....so I was like "wait what? model? no way!" she told me you didnt need experience. Then proceeded to tell me I would get messy in foods. She showed me some pics of hers...I believe it was the peanut butter and jilly photo set...I was like "holy shit....okay no! i still do NOT have the body or looks for that!" she said it didnt matter as long as it was fun. Told me to think it over.
so, it was spooky season. I literally took days thinking about this....then? as the days went on? I thought of stuff to get messy WITH.
so? I get in my pantry the first thing I see? Is pumpkin pie filling. I totally took it from there. I asked her if It was a cool idea to make me into pumpkin pie...with filling and cool whip.
she went bananas over it. So? she told me to find something black and sexy to wear. I had zero "sexy" clothes but literally a handful of things my boyfriend had bought for me to wear...
I had some tall black gloves, some lacy black panties....and i went to walmart and bought some stockings and they had plastic pools on sale !grabbed one.
came to her house....I get everything out and she took pics....I was totally just enthralled that this made money! she was guiding me as to what to do...bc she had modeled for years and i had no idea what she did. but honestly? I got about halfway through? she stopped talking and just snapped away. I had a fucking blast.
this bitch, had a balloon in the fridge. blown up. full of ice cold milk.
she tells me to grab a handful of whats beneath me and to just smear it into my face. so i do....right then her boyfriend walks in and i hear him....then all of a sudden
BAM! pop! that fucking idiot popped freezing cold milk all over me! i fucking screamed!
she sent the pics to w a m b a b es and a r iel loved it. She hired me and jilly to do stuff but jilly wanted a store. So? she opened the house of mess. She asked me to help with the name and stuff but she named me....she did the photography and whatnot. I bought her a video camera....she bought lights.
anyway.....from then on? Every single fucking thing I did....down to shopping for clothes was "wait, would this look good wet?" or "hey, if i wear this to this wedding would it look good with chocolate or colorful batter?" ahhhh those were the days.
To be able to play in cake batter and make money off just that. haha! but I did really fall in love with it. from the jump. it wasnt until later I found myself in situations of arousal (when I was NOT working with jilly, of course) I started finding my sexuality IN WAM. if you can believe it....im pretty fucking vanilla in the bedroom. I dont need a bunch of toys and shit to get me off. Just loving, hot, steamy sex....but add some mess to it? pffffft. that makes it even better
BUUUUUUUTTTTT, there have been spurts after 12 years where customers, models, work on top of work you cant seem to catch up with...being in financial binds, single momming it....has made it to where I HAVE had to step back a bit. Which, financially hurt me, this is my only job.
but, it helped because its like growing up loving working on cars and then going to school and becoming a mechanic. I bet that mustang you are restoring is gathering dust after 10 hours at work....working on everyone elses cars!
so? sometimes I have to take a step back so I can ENJOY what I do. I cant tell customers that enough. If you wanna see me enjoy it? you will wait....if you wanna see me flustered and just trying to bust through it? then sure, ill fit it in the hour I have on wednesday.
so. yes. I started for money. I now enjoy it for my own pleasure. but no, I will not do wam for free for anyone because: my. ass. is. on. the. internet. ANYONE can attempt to share what I do for them. It is not because I dont enjoy it I ask for pay.
its because, if you were that mechanic, right? and loved cars, right? I wouldnt ask you to replace my alternator for free....that would be shitty
if that makes sense! I hope it does!
THE UMD made me fall even more in love with wam. I have been inspired and just amazed at some of the content people produce and come up with. It is incredible we have this place.
DungeonMasterOne said: Bear in mind there's a difference between "enjoys it" and "gets off on it.
THIS is the distinction that I'm always curious about, especially because "into it" can mean, "Sure, getting pied was a BLAST," and then there's CreamMeAgain's example of actively seeking the sexual experience and the modeling is secondary. I feel like we almost need three (or more) categories in this chart rather than Like/Dislike.
Also, I haven't been on this forum SUPER long, but this topic pops up like every three months, right? No disrespect to the OP intended, it can be hard to find information around here beyond the actively trending threads.
Jayce said: I started finding my sexuality IN WAM. if you can believe it....im pretty fucking vanilla in the bedroom. I dont need a bunch of toys and shit to get me off. Just loving, hot, steamy sex....but add some mess to it? pffffft. that makes it even better
This is literally how it is for me too
Jayce said: It is not because I dont enjoy it I ask for pay.
its because, if you were that mechanic, right? and loved cars, right? I wouldnt ask you to replace my alternator for free....that would be shitty
Here's an example of folk purely having fun with WAM, here are Maude and Honeysuckle in the mud earlier today. And those smiles are 100% genuine, they were having an absolutely fantastic time just covering each other in mud.
I cant speak for models but talking to partners, I think more find it fun rather than sexual. One partner liked foam baths and found them relaxing another likes pie fights. She likes the fun of throwing pies and cakes and doesn't mind being hit. But for her it's neither its sexual more fun or sensual. Either way they were happy to do it as they found it fun more than anything.