UMD,
I have a really severe humiliation fetish, and I love to see girls all dressed up and pied in public. The more degraded and humiliated the better. Can someone recommend me so some video stores or videos to buy? I'll throw a fiver video I had made in the post for your time. I appreciate everyone taking the time. PS I can't attach videos so message if you want them there mine from fiver order.

I can recommend some things, but why don't you clarify what in your mind consitutes "more degraded and more humiliated" -- is that to do with the amount of pies taken? the number of onlookers? how many people are involved in actually messing the woman up? Is it more humiliating to follow up the pies with other, goopier substances (as in your last pic)? These kinds of factors will influence which videos I would recommend to you.

Also, your photos are a bit confusing given the subject matter of the thread. No more than one to two of the five (can't tell for sure with the last pic) are actually happening in public. And the one that is definitely public is a MostWam video where there isn't really an audience for it -- the Moomins used to just pie their models as they walked down the street, so there was certainly the chance that passerby might see them, but they always seemed to do the pastry deed when nobody was remotely close to the model (I would guess this was to avoid the possibility of accidentally splattering strangers). But this lack of an immediate audiecne does kind of reduce the humiliation factor of the public pieing, at least in my mind. That wasn't a problem for me, but I'm not really into the degradation aspect myself. Your thoughts on this?

For me it has to do with the girls reaction and both the amount of mess and onlookers. My best way to articulate it would be the idea would be if you took a women like she was going to a prom put her on a stage in bondage against her will and filled every seat in a large auditorium. Had her crying and hysterical begging not to be trashed and just obliterate her with mess while the crowd was cheering, mocking, and insulting her. It's her attitude, onlookers, and amount of mess. I also think it's interesting if the women pisses herself in fear and shits herself out of a loss of control. I guess it comes down to a sense of power and control and her embarrassment. Does that make sense? In specific I think I like public trashing because of the implied shame and the thrill of it happening in that setting.

It makes sense, yes, but I don't know of any wam videos of a public messing that are anything remotely like what you describe (then again, it turns out our taste in public pieings are almost oppostie of one another, so I haven't been looking for what you describe). I'm not saying there isn't something out there somewhat along those lines, although of course you're never going to get anything close to an auditorium full of onlookers -- wam videos simply don't have the budget for all those extra people. Some producers do dub in audience noises (applause, gasping, cheering) however, usually when they are trying to create the feel of a TV show.

Sorry. I really thought I could help you here. I do know of a couple dozen (maybe more) clips of public pieings, but none of them are anything remotely like what you're looking for.

I would be interested just to see what public pieing clips there are in general if you would be so kind as to share.

There are literally dozens of them at the LeonMoomin Archives of Mostwam (not part of the UMD store system). I think the public stuff is now a thing of the past for them, at least in the short term. (They've come up with plenty more ace pie stuff to replace the street pieings with). Anyway, I should say that in their public videos there is the minimal sense that passerbyers might see the messy girls in the street as they go about their day, but certainly no interaction or cries from that passing public. (This is just their public pie videos; I imagine it might well be different with some of their public wet videos, which often seem to happen in major public fountains where there would be more chance and normalcy for the public to come closer.)

I can't keep track of whether Fawn's old videos are available for sale anywhere or not (WAMF and WamWatchers were two of her business names), but she had some great public pieing clips. (But again, no deep undercurrent of degradation here.) These were quite interesting, because they ALWAYS involved getting a member of the public involved in the pieing... either as (mostly) the pie pusher or (occasionally) the pie recipient. One classic moment involves one of the models getting pied in the park -- I think it was a platinum blonde named Corti, not sure -- and after she does, some plastic trash bag she was using as a dropcloth gets blown away by the wind and she has to chase it a long way through the park, past lots of different people, with that fresh coat of pie on her pretty puss. The people in her crew cannot stop laughing as she runs off "into the sunset" after that flying bag.

One of the all-time great public pie clips, for my tastes, is this one from Elle, who has an insanely right personality for this kind of thing, at least in my book. It's scene 3 in this volume, and you can purchase it individually in Rich's download store. (You might hate it though, she seems quite excited in a good way at the prospect of getting publicly pied, not humiliated/degraded at all. )
http://slapstickstuff.com/SS57.htm

Anglefan has quite a few that he calls public pieings, but I can't really think of any of them to recommend. Other people are so distant from the pieings that it's more like an outdoor solo video than anything "public"; there's rarely any hint of setup or skit, it's basically just like a boring indoor video that happens to have been transported into the open air. If you wanted to sample any of his "public" stuff, though, you can get a lot of them for just $2 or $3 per video (in the way back pages of his store). I'd recommend the ones starring "the art student" above the others, simply because she brings a lot of personality to the table. So even though there's no palapable sense of a public in her "pubic pieing" videos, she brings something interesting to the proceedings (honestly, I think she could've gone on to become one of the great WAM scriptwriters if (1) she'd had any interest in this field (which I'm sure she didn't) and (2) you could actually earn even a pittance as " wam scriptwriter."

Paris Kennedy made one on her own, which you can still buy from her own store for around $10. I haven't seen it myself, and nobody has ever really discussed the actual video on this forum, as far as I've seen; it's kind of conspicious by how much ISN'T said about it.. I've talked to the guy who commissioned this one, and he said the results were much less than he'd hoped for but said that "the acting was actually pretty good." (Sounds like a punchline, and may have been, but I think he was actually serious in saying this. It was the one positive thing he could say about the video.) I'm a fan of Paris' other WAM work (done for other WAM producers than on her own), but it seems like she dropped the ball here somehow.

Messygirl has recently ventured into public pieings. I think they've only done a couple and they looked pretty promising to me based on the screencaps they posted in the forum. But again, not people crowded around watching at all...

This may have been too general to help you. I'm going to try to make screencaps from the highlights of various public videos I've bought myself that may provide more tangible help. I'll post these in this thread over the next day or two.

Are we talkin' PUBLIC public, or, rather, FAKE in an industrial park early on a Sunday morning next to the train tracks kind of public?

Yes, the idea of messy public humiliation turns me on.
(I'm sure the real thing would turn me off, however.)

One of the biggest boner killers, however, is the thought of anyone I personally know,
or who knows me, being in the crowd. Especially, of course, relatives.

In other words, I need to imagine COMPLETE STRANGERS for public humiliation.

I was talking like really public, not in a place that's theoretically public but nobody is actually in.

That was kind of my point -- what you want in this respect is virtually never made by a WAM producer. I'm assuming it's just too dicey.

Just a reminder to everyone about certain bodily fluids (especially those new to the site) :

A bit of talk about pissing and shitting is okay but please avoid making requests for media conflating this with WAM. Pissing and shitting falls outside what UMD - and most of its members' definition of WAM is.

Crucially, we don't want to encourage people to post and share media illustrating this on the site.

Thanks for your understanding

Richard

Appreciate the intel, not really a big fan of the clown. More of a power and embarrassment and humiliation kind of intensity lusting thing. But I appreciate the shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=5tHGmSh7f-0
This if a little fucked but I like when she starts to cry

http://vidown.com/cgi/store2.pl?site=justpieme.com

We pied a college girl near campus.

We made her walk around on the street too. LOL. and she was a pie virgin.

One word: consent.

If you humiliate someone in public for voyeuristic reasons, you need the consent of all of the people who will be involved as you're involving them in a sex act. If you're doing a video, the same applies.

Yeah, maybe you could get a load of fetishists in a room to watch humiliation; but does that count as public? So you go into a public area... what if there are children or vulnerable adults around? They legally cannot consent. Do you get consent before or after the video is shot? If you get it before, they're no longer members of the public; if you get it after, any one person can say no (or, as above, be unable to give consent). Getting it after is also dodgy ground legally because you've arguably sexually assaulted them and then you're trying to get consent retrospectively. Oh, and if any one person refuses to consent, you have to can the lot. Even as a wammer and general fetishist, I'd probably think hard about whether I'd consent...

So it's a legal can of worms. And it's worse if you want to video it, so it's understandable that there are very few out there.

I love it how did you just ask people until someone said yes ? I'm sure that was interesting

I totally get that. I think it will stay in the realm of the private but that little itch will always be there. For me I think having my girlfriend do a fundraiser and donating a ton of money to trash her in front of everyone is the only way I could do something like that.

Could have fooled me

This one conflicts me.. REAL crying and being upset is a total turn-off for me.

On the other hand, if you understand the politics of the situation here (Anita Byant dedicated her miserable, misbegotten life to her moral-majority, anti-gay rights agenda. That was a pro-gay rights advocate that pied her.) - then the situation becomes completely enjoyable!

Not so much sexually, enjoyable - but enjoyable nevertheless!

WamBabe Ariel and one of her old models, Jewel, did a public pie shoot in the car park of a hardware store. I don't believe that set is available anymore.

That sucks truly wish it was

I've posted some pics from that shoot in one of my photo albums, linked below. Don't know if these pics are going to satisfy your particular itch, piefan357, since there are no discernible spectators anywhere in the camera's view, but it's there to give you a healthy taste of what that one was like.

https://umd.net/profile/i/pieromaniactoo/section/photos?sortby=date

Please note, if the pics appear out of sequence, it's because they are sorted by date. Just switch the album to sorted by name to view them in the proper order.

Great photos!

Very hot, I like that so close to being public enough to satisfy me but not quite

This was a custom I ordered which involves pies in the face in public.
She stuffs a pie down the front of her panties, pies herself in the face, pours pink cake batter all over herself, & then gives herself another pie in the face.
The pink cake batter & the last pie in the face are quite good!
https://www.manyvids.com/Video/894048/Pink-Cake-Batter-Public-Sploshing-CUSTOM