The video she did with Neal. Can I buy that anywhere?

Bozo

Why buy it. I think I have seen it on ________ just like mine, messygirl, mrs bee, big sam, anglefan, slapstick stuff, wamtec etc

That is why there is not much new material out there

Lenny

If you spot my material on ________ PLEASE TELL ME SO I CAN GET IT TAKEN DOWN!!

Don't just post it on here so thieves can jump on there to track it down for free.

________ must be trying to hard when fetish porn starts to appear on the site. While everyone is at it, there are dare I say 3 MELANIA vids up there too. Anybody want to add anything else?

I'd add something, but I think Melania trumps anything I could say.

So your solution is to draw more attention to the shit ton of free videos people can steal? And on a totally unrelated post of someone actually looking to buy a video?

Why does ________ sound like a central location for every infectious disease on the planet, for both computers & living things?

I am still willing to buy the video. Anything to support my WAM peers. Anyone know where I can find it?

So going back to Rich's point, how do you get this stuff taken down since it sounds like its totally unauthorized and the more this happens the less likely people are going to be willing to make videos and customs i th future!

1] get a real lawyer (i have two)
2] have him/her write up a cease and desist order
3] threaten (and mean it) to sue for the current market cost of the video times the number of views...this is lost revenue -- even if the argument is that the viewer would not have purchased the video, the fact is they did watch it, without permission or paying...it's similar to how the recording industry went after napster/music file sharing users for violating the DMCA...

Sorry folks, but you can purchase digital material (and even share it, covertly, with your friends, off -line)...but the moment you download it, for free, or post it on a commercial site where others can download it for free (or replicate it and try to sell the copies), you violate my copyright and break the law....and (in the words of cowboy lawyer Gerry Spence) "...you're gonna pay..."

If you are not willing to do this (play hardball) then you will just have to accept that your stuff will get stolen and distributed to fans for free. Plus, this is why artists are usually poor (unless you are an anarcho-communist and are plotting the demise of capitalist society).

If this is the scene you are talking about, it looks like it is available in the umd store:

https://umd.net/download_info/phoebe-the-interrogation

I get tips all the time from UMD visitors, and I relay them to the producers and put in removal requests myself when I have time. But in the past couple of years I've started keeping a list of offending sites and links, plus links to their respective takedown pages. That's on the "Store" page for all UMD Producers to see (not for the public). I'd like to set up a more formal way to report these things, but I think there should be an incentive so people actually do it more.

Here's a thread I started for discussion on the topic.
https://umd.net/groups/exploring-what-we-can-do-to-mi

Rather than delete messages, I am removing all mentions of the actual site name in question, because that'll just send more traffic to it.

Messmaster

Yes we've got loads removed using the DCMA form.
Seems insane to publicly suggest someone goes there and downloads films though!

Well, "________" isn't going to work, long-term.

I vote we call it Yub Nub.

Yeah, no offense to Lenny, who did great work for decades....

...But when you're leaving the building, no need to burn it down on your way out.

THANK YOU!

Mildly surprised this thread went in the piracy rage direction instead of the Phoebe rage direction. Nice change of pace!

There so much free pourin' out there that I don't think the UMD is doing anything for "the site in question."

Yup. I think Bozo is literally the only one in his own thread caring about the Phoebe video. First time that "Phoebe R" and "Neil E" have both popped up in the same sentence without anyone flying off the handle.

And yes, I'm hoping that the DCMA notices will do their job. Because I'm pretty sure none of us have the $$ to hire the kind of lawyer who could successfully sue PornHub and win. (Sorry WJ.)

^^ It's not my business either, of course, but I'd be curious too. WJ, I assume you have the lawyers for non-WAM-related reasons?

Like, no offense, but I know how videos I released 6 months ago sell (Spoiler: Not well!).... And I'm constantly putting out new clips, so it keeps new people coming to the site (and sometimes buying old vids that are cheaper than the new ones).
So I can't imagine you're doing a lot of business when your newest videos are more than 7 years old now. (And I'm fairly sure the Tabitha one is old enough to drive, and possibly vote.)

Jason / Rich: yes, you got me...my two lawyers are a friend and a former boss (which I remained friendly with)...they also taught me how to be legally "threatening" even when I didn't have the energy or time or money to actually litigate...but having been through a real litigation (non-wam-related) previously over ownership rights (creative material/ IP), I learned a great deal about copyright infringement law...

Truth be told, litigation is a royal f-ing pain...but one has to be prepared...however, I mostly just politely ask the offending pirate to take down the video (as with a recent clip form my Splat!TV video) so as to avoid future costly litigation (and that includes legal fees if they lose, don't forget)..they usually comply within a couple of days....I realize these are usually just young guys (college kids) who just admire the clip/my work (although most don't credit me or the source)...and want to have some "content" to upload to their YT channel...which I understand.

As a real artist, and someone who works 40+ hours at a day job, there is no way I can afford a real lawyer. I try to take down videos I find on other sites when I notice them, but I rely heavily on the awesome people of UMD tipping me off to pirated videos. You guys are all awesome.

What an ass!

"MysticMudBoy said:

Speaking of pirated, a site called BLANK tends to receive a lot of pirated stuff, even things from some wammers on here. Be warned though as some really disturbing stuff pops up on there sometimes"

This is MJD not Jess
Hmmmm-see how the name of the other pirate site has been blanked out so people don't go stealing products from us,you might want to edit or delete your post!