Guys what's happened to the most wam store with Charlotte and the team? Realised I haven't seen a scene produced in ages but when I try to find them on here I can't see anything??

really

It seems like we are getting about one of these a week. If only there was a way to search the forums for key phrases. Maybe we should put in a request to Messmaster to put a big black bar at the top of the forums with a magnifying glass next to it so people can find out if there are any goodbye posts, or explanations. Maybe this box could accept terms like most wam or Leon or even most wam and Charlotte. Messmaster really needs to get working on this site improvement. Yes he just got done upgrading the site, but no rest for the wicked! To make it easier to find maybe add a multi color blinking outline around the box.

You bring up an interesting point, maybe that's something they can look into.

But it's not surprising considering it was the biggest thing on UMD for a long while and now it's gone, there's a massive vacuum where it was but still has not been filled by UMD or another producer... you can see the effect of this on this site

Until that happens I think it's going to have a massive impact on WAM,

I am glad there are not any producers out there filling Leon's shoes. I would not purchase anything from someone that treated their models the way he did. I would not want a producer that felt the need to lie trying to save face. There are a LOT of great producers on this site putting out some awesome content. There are new producers with great stuff showing up monthly. There is no need to mourn the loss of Most Wam. Their models will find other work. Their employees can find other work or stay with Most Wam. Choices were made and choices have consequences. People come and people go in this industry there is always someone else who discovers their kinks and decides to make content and put themselves out there.

Certainly there are other producers that make great content, but the type of content mostwam created definitely tapped into something that no other producer has ever achieved... thankfully there is one show on TV that does tap into that.

but you can just feel day to day in this place that this situation has still had a lasting impact, ignoring mostwam as a site for a second and my feelings towards mostwam... talking to people privately, how they feel... and it's going to possibly take a decade to deal with the ramifications whether it's dealing with the actions of mostwam and Leon... to the reactions of this community and UMD.

We've lost a hell of a lot of people because of this... on both sides of the line.... long-standing faces on here, producers, fans that have been completely disillusioned by the experience and the reactions... and what UMD has become post this experience.

You can see it, feel it... and UMD hasn't recovered from that, certainly to some people may never.

This will be the reason and continuing reason why I will say that a community is only as strong as it's moral compass when it comes to accountability and self governance. If we can't or won't do it, as history has shown us, someone else will. Be it the government or another entity and trust me, none of you want something like that happening. Mostwams departure was both required and necessary.

This community is strong and fact is WAM existed before Leon and it will exist long after him (and the rest of us for that matter). I don't feel an absence of anything. If anything I see newer faces, newer producers (some of who I talk regularly with!), newer ideas, and a new breed (new blood if you will) coming forward and hitting us with some serious changes for the better. The absence of Mostwam maybe the catalyst that ignites a new breed of content that surpasses what has been done. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but it is bound to happen sooner or later. "What we lose in the fire, we will find amongst the ashes"

As for Mostwam is concerned, I don't shed a single tear. Leon made his choice. If he had any concern for the overall health and pulse of this community, that should have entered his mind well before he did what he did. Imagine the models he has worked with and their impressions of us. Imagine the cultural impact of the community he resides in and their thoughts of us after seeing his name come up in court. How many lurkers or potential models on here did he indirectly "turn off" from this fetish of ours because of his actions? As it's been said previously: Bad choices have consequences.

Just to add, bear in mind not everyone "lives" here the way we regulars do, this site has many thousands of members who aren't regular users of the forums. It's perfectly reasonable that someome might not be aware of the revelations and events of last October or MM's ensuing decision to remove MostWam from UMD. Linking to MM's decision thread as JD and Messy Andi did is probably the best response to queries like this. It's bound to come up from time to time.

^This. We can expect to see questions about this and all the various things surrounding it that occurred for quite some time. In the grand scheme of the history of this site, this literally just happened for many users.

As someone said earlier, there are a lot of producers producing a lot of stuff and if I'm going to be honest it's helped me up my game create my own studio where I have many things planned so the only positive icy coming out of the whole mess is the fact that most of us will probably try and work a little harder to get the customers what they want
It's time to move on from this sort of discussion once and for all I think regarding the individual, especially the fact that it went on for so long.
Let's all now enjoy a new summer of mud and fun and look forward to what's coming in the future, not what's happened in the past some people come and go for a reason.

Don't forget my studios for hire. Might as well put a little cheeky plug-in there.

Nice sliding in the plug, Chantelle. You never miss a trick

You are really over inflating the impact of 1 producer. I was here when everything with Messy Jessie happened, the community recovered. There were more changes because of that than because of Leon. I was here for Ariel and everything that happened there, the community recovered and we stood behind a great producer that got screwed. I was here for everything that went down with Kaydens and the changes that happened there, hell there is a whole new section of the forums with posts about getting customs and how to try and protect yourself. The community recovered. All of these things happened in the last decade. In the grand scheme of things, Leon is a speed bump in the community.

I hope that you can see the great stuff from people that have started their stores since October. There are producers that are trying new things. I am still waiting excitedly to see what JD and Andi come up with for the hair dryers they found. It is a great time for the community.

Got to make a positive out of a negative

I totally agree!
By the way I wasn't seeing too much that appealed on here bar Creamy aka Cream Me Again antics were good fun but young Bri (and now Lou) of Bri's Messy Bakery have been a bit of a revelation harking back to the Splosh/Wamtec days.
I can't believe how long she films for and it's the first time I'm done an Only Fans membership.
Just seems too cheap for what you get!

- what TV show are you referring to? Feel like I need to check it out