Hi I used to chat a lot to kaydens on here. Also bought lots of amazing customs. I've emailed here a lot on her private email address but getting no answers ;( Has anyone here been in touch in the last month or 2?
There was already a posting on the messy forum which for some reason was removed where several people including myself stated that she had gone on her own, took their money for a custom and just pocketed it! She STOLE over $500 from people so I wouldn't waste my time worrying about that scrawny piece of shit!
piefan2 said: There was already a posting on the messy forum which for some reason was removed
Does this mean that my witticism about the advisability of sending funds to someone with "666" in her e-mail address has not been preserved for posterity? Disappointing.
Regis, I heard that one overzealous fan of yours actually went so far as to get said witticism tattooed across their buttocks. That's right I said "across." It was just too long to fit on one cheek! Now I know that human flesh is hardly considered an "archival medium," but that tattoo will last a lot longer than any UMD post (which get flushed from the system when they are about four years old). Now, MAYBE more people would've seen your post had it continued to stay up on the UMD than the number of people who will see it on the abovementioned ass, it's true...but you just never know.
So it's not just me then? I'm disappointed. After the surprising level of affection she repeatedly expressed toward me, and her frankly irrepressible enthusiasm and excitement she had for making the custom I requested, I thought I would have been the only guy she suddenly stopped communicating with.
The Oil Lord said: I don't like to reveal any names, but I don't care anymore since I am no longer interested in doing business with her. If I said "The Little Mermaid", you know to whom I am referring.
Well. As long as you're not going to name any names.
The Oil Lord said:I've never dealt with Kaydens, but I had been in a similar situation with the person she used to work for --- her former lead associate from Indiana. I don't like to reveal any names, but I don't care anymore since I am no longer interested in doing business with her. If I said "The Little Mermaid", you know to whom I am referring.
I had sent her a script and she was very enthusiastic about filming it. I had then sent an email regarding payment and her response had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was just typical generic fluff, very unbusiness-like. I sent a couple more emails and waited patiently for over a month to receive some sort of reply, but nothing whatsoever. If she's not interested in doing the custom for me, she should have the courtesy to be honest instead of giving me the runaround. I don't understand why people still praise her while she displays such unprofessionalism, dishonesty, and lack of communication to a potential client. Who the hell would wanna do business with her? I'm just lucky I hadn't sent her any money and gotten ripped off.
This is way over the top, Oil Lord. First of all, you accuse the little mermaid in question of "dishonesty" and yet nothing you describe her doing is remotely dishonest. Also, this is the first time, as far as I am aware, that you are telling the forum about this incident, and I don't recall ever reading complaints from anyone else here about a lack of professionalism or communication from this little mermaid. (Plus, if you want the forum to know about how "crooked" she supposedly is, you've chosen a pretty hidden-away place to do it -- in a thread about another producer in the Off-Topic Forum.)
So...you are disgusted with people who praise her excellent work, work that she's been continuously and enthusiastically producing for 15 years, longer than all but one or two other producers who are still around and productive. You ask who the hell would want to do business with her, despite the fact that, as far as I know, this is the first time in 15 years that someone has uttered a complaint about her practices (and you issue your complaint in a totally low-key way in a thread about someone else, in the Off-Topic Forum no less, where very few people will see it).
Finally, your complaint isn't even that she ripped you off, just that you feel like she *might* have ripped you off had you sent her money, and this despite the fact that she never even asked for any money from you. If she completely stopped communicating with you before any payment agreement had been worked out, that's a damn good sign that she was no longer interested in doing your custom. Sure, it would've been nice if she'd written to let you know that, but by your own account, it's not like she ever even discussed what she would charge you for this custom, let alone took your money for it and then disappeared. Your attempt to try to turn the little mermaid into a scammer says much more about your own paranoid, sexist mindset than it does about any of the mermaid's business practices.
If anyone doubts that Oil Lord has some serious issues with female producers as a whole (and, I'd be willing to bet, with women in general) I'd like to direct you to his comments in another thread: https://umd.net/forums/anyone-else-waiting-on-a-fawn
The Oil Lord said: It's unfortunate producers have to scam people. In general, female producers/models realize that guys think with their dicks instead of their brains, so the women use that to their advantage by luring and seducing guys with their sweet-talk and empty promises. Fortunately I didn't pay any funds because I was beginning to doubt the model's sincerity. I just used my better judgment.
The Oil Lord said:Here we go. Along comes Prince Eric of Pieville who responds in typical fashion, becoming a zealous knight in shining armor marching to the rescue in order to uphold the honor of the Little Mermaid. I find it funny that someone else has to respond in defense of the accused when the accused themselves (Little Mermaid, Kaydens, anyone else) can't personally explain their side of the story.
Okay, one of the MANY points I raised that you have ignored completely is that you've buried away your accusations against the Little Mermaid where she will likely never see them. You've posted your bitching about her in a thread under another producer's name that happens to be in Off-Topic Forum. You won't even say her name, and you're trying to pass that off as you being noble, while you drop hints that make it clear exactly who you mean.
All of that is just cowardice. You made even vaguer accusations against her on the Messy Forum. but there you did it in a way that no one would have a clue who you're talking about: https://umd.net/forums/anyone-else-waiting-on-a-fawn
I really doubt that Little Mermaid has any clue that this argument is even going on as of yet. If you had any balls at all, you would've called her out directly on the Messy Forum, where she would at least see your comments and be able to respond to them. But you know if you do that, Little Mermaid WOULD answer you and you're also going to get shit from every conceivable direction, because nobody else on this forum seems has had a problem with her in the fifteen years she's been around (at least not that I'm aware of; please correct me if I'm wrong, since surely she did something else wrong other than just not return your emails, since you're SO bent out of shape about her.)
Note that in the 8 days this thread has been around, it has 300 views. The post on Fawn's disappearance in the Messy Forum has 900 views in just the past 24 hours. So either state your shit-headed views clearly in a place where Little Mermaid can see and respond to them, or please just keep your sexist poison to yourself.
The Oil Lord said:As for calling me sexist based on my choice of words in the comment I made in the other thread, I'm just being a realist. I don't care for any of that political correctness BS. The comment is and always will be true whether you like it or not. The truth hurts. The average person has the wool covering over their eyes and I am not one of them anymore. That doesn't make me a paranoid, sexist freak like you suggest but rather cautious, especially when dealing with finances.
I'm not condoning these women's profession, good for them. They can do whatever they wanna do (I'm Pro-Choice everything in a non-statist way). But they are in business to make money and they know when it comes to sex and fetishes, they got the guys by the balls (hence guys thinking with their dick). The women use that to their advantage, and if you find any fault to that statement then you are just denying yourself. All I can say is I have entered the pit, but I have not fallen into the pit. I have not succumbed like the unfortunate ones.
Oh, you've fallen into a fucking pit alright. If you're so clear-eyed and rational about all this, why are you repeatedly attacking female producers only? Does your special "insight" show you that they are the only ones who manipulate people's desires and then steal their money? Well, there are plenty of male messy producers have scammed people in one way or another too:
Just look at Chris, by far the most prolific serial scammer this community has ever been plagued by; he apparently gypped many different people out of money they sent him for customs over a period of years. He's also said to have stiffed a number of his models for their cut of the action as well. I'm sure he's ripped off more money in total than any three of four female producers you can name who've disappeared with people's money.
There was also a guy in the very early days of the internet who scammed a bunch of people out of the money they sent him for VHS tapes of his model Terry getting pied (pretty sure that was her name).
And of course, there is Neil Edwards, long an esteemed and highly productive member of the WAM coummunity, whose business ethics unfortunately went sour in the years 2010-2014, a time during which he often promoted sweeping discount sales on DVDs of his work. He readily took people's money for these DVDs (big orders of anywhere from 8 to 40 DVDs), then instead of actually sending the DVDs, merely generated endless streams of emails filled with excuses, lies, and unbelievable tales of insufficient postage. He's also been accused by one long-standing UMD member of ripping him off for a custom video he paid for.
I'm sure there are more unscrupulous male producers than just these guys, but they are the ones I know of off the top of my head.
So, Oily, how does your "brilliant insight into the true nature of things -- scheming women screwing weak-kneed male wammers" explain men ripping off other men? It seems there is more on heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy.
Lets set the record straight. ARIEL is not a scammer. She is 1 of 3 honest people here in the last year - that being Jayce and Jilly too. Is she a bad communicator? Maybe. I know that sometimes I do not receive a response and recently it took a while but I did hear from her today. Out of the 3, Jayce answers all of her mail. So to be fair, you might say that Ariel's customer service practices could use some improvement.
How much money are you out? -0-. The real scammers here are KAYDEN, SKYLAR, SERENA, and now possibly FAWN who right now I place at poor customer service.
To call ARIEL (enough with this bullshit with the Little Mermaid, grow up!) is a scammer is just a total lie! SHe is one of the few honest producers on this site! And I should know because I've been stung by all of them while the 3 mentioned above have come to me to renew my faith and have produced a great product!