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"Is there anything new for Allwam /Messy -wrestling"
Love you, too
https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
I think this quote from the site says it all "WEEKLY UPDATES > We release and upload content every week as we process our footage. " Not new updates, weekly updates as they process footage aka put it through something like Handbrake to try and get the best quality possible. I liked their content back when they were doing the all wam stuff. Theirs was some pretty decent stuff and some fun story lines in the scenes. I remember one where a couple of brides maids destroy the bride ripping her dress to shreds after wamming her because she "stole" one of their guys. Always high quality for the time.
TywinLannister64 said: https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
Last time I had a subscription to Sinx (probably just before or after pandemic started in the US), they were doing an original WAM scene maybe once every five months, and they were all pretty minor messes, nothing like the stuff they produced when Barbara Summer was in charge of things ten to fifteen years ago (multi-girl mud or oil wrestling, huge pie fights, slime scenes etc). As you've said, mostly what they do these days is re-upload old stuff, but nothing before 2011. I'm guessing whoever sold them the catalogue didn't sell them the rights to everything. If it were me, I wouldn't bother.
sadblue said:
Last time I had a subscription to Sinx (probably just before or after pandemic started in the US), they were doing an original WAM scene maybe once every five months, and they were all pretty minor messes, nothing like the stuff they produced when Barbara Summer was in charge of things ten to fifteen years ago (multi-girl mud or oil wrestling, huge pie fights, slime scenes etc). As you've said, mostly what they do these days is re-upload old stuff, but nothing before 2011. I'm guessing whoever sold them the catalogue didn't sell them the rights to everything. If it were me, I wouldn't bother.
TywinLannister64 said: https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
Last time I had a subscription to Sinx (probably just before or after pandemic started in the US), they were doing an original WAM scene maybe once every five months, and they were all pretty minor messes, nothing like the stuff they produced when Barbara Summer was in charge of things ten to fifteen years ago (multi-girl mud or oil wrestling, huge pie fights, slime scenes etc). As you've said, mostly what they do these days is re-upload old stuff, but nothing before 2011. I'm guessing whoever sold them the catalogue didn't sell them the rights to everything. If it were me, I wouldn't bother.
It's a shame i would love to find that old stuff from 2004- 2009 ... I'm missing a lot of it.
but guess it's been wiped off the internet. can't buy it anywhere, i'd pay 15-20$ per clip easy.
There was a discussion on Sinx a couple months back.
I was able to get lots of the mud wrestling era from 2006 to the Messy-wrestling part of 2016. You can subscribe to a Hashtag and get all their mud videos which I think is over 200..
As for producing new content, I haven't heard any rumors they would produce again.. Would be awesome if it did came back, but doubt it will..
https://umd.net/forums/allwam-mud-wrestling
I was able to get lots of the mud wrestling era from 2006 to the Messy-wrestling part of 2016. You can subscribe to a Hashtag and get all their mud videos which I think is over 200..
As for producing new content, I haven't heard any rumors they would produce again.. Would be awesome if it did came back, but doubt it will..
https://umd.net/forums/allwam-mud-wrestling
I used to like the shower in the nightclub (in Prague?) the scenes varied from simply wet, to wet a ripping and finally very naughty. Nothing like that available now though. 
It seems there is something coming up that may fill that void and that may be related to the Sinx/SinDrive/Allwam background: https://www.dressplay.com/ I started following them on Twitter and the have amazing preview videos and pictures. Great choice of clothes/blouses, ripping, mess... 
So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store. 
So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store. 1978wam said: It seems there is something coming up that may fill that void and that may be related to the Sinx/SinDrive/Allwam background: https://www.dressplay.com/ I started following them on Twitter and the have amazing preview videos and pictures. Great choice of clothes/blouses, ripping, mess... So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store.
So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store. Pretty standard questions in their survey, although the asumption that the minimum spend on WAM material is $25 /month, does not take in pensioners and others below a certain income level. This alone makes me think their output will not be affordable.
Topcattopone said:
Pretty standard questions in their survey, although the asumption that the minimum spend on WAM material is $25 /month, does not take in pensioners and others below a certain income level. This alone makes me think their output will not be affordable.
1978wam said: It seems there is something coming up that may fill that void and that may be related to the Sinx/SinDrive/Allwam background: https://www.dressplay.com/ I started following them on Twitter and the have amazing preview videos and pictures. Great choice of clothes/blouses, ripping, mess... So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store.
So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store. Pretty standard questions in their survey, although the asumption that the minimum spend on WAM material is $25 /month, does not take in pensioners and others below a certain income level. This alone makes me think their output will not be affordable.
I'd pay 40-50 $ a month for weekly updates
1978wam said: It seems there is something coming up that may fill that void and that may be related to the Sinx/SinDrive/Allwam background: https://www.dressplay.com/ I started following them on Twitter and the have amazing preview videos and pictures. Great choice of clothes/blouses, ripping, mess... So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store.
So far, the website is not offering downloads, but I am really looking forward to the opening of the store. Hmmmmmm i'm not seeing anything related to wam or mud wrestling
seem like a clothing fetish site, nothing to do with what we we're talking about,
unless there's something i'm not seeing.
TywinLannister64 said: https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
These guys have went the way of the dodo and haven't produced anything "new" in years which is sad as I totally agree that their content had a lot of great elements going for it. It looks to me they are just soaking up any revenue they can make off their legacy videos. What people don't realize is mud wrestling (especially on the magnitude they were doing it) takes A LOT out of you both financially and logistically. Keeping it sustainable is tough. I bought all the ones I was interested in a while ago and ditched Sinx shortly after
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
Making smut is easy. Making art takes more!
Nostalgic Erotica Prod said:
These guys have went the way of the dodo and haven't produced anything "new" in years which is sad as I totally agree that their content had a lot of great elements going for it. It looks to me they are just soaking up any revenue they can make off their legacy videos. What people don't realize is mud wrestling (especially on the magnitude they were doing it) takes A LOT out of you both financially and logistically. Keeping it sustainable is tough. I bought all the ones I was interested in a while ago and ditched Sinx shortly after
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
TywinLannister64 said: https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
These guys have went the way of the dodo and haven't produced anything "new" in years which is sad as I totally agree that their content had a lot of great elements going for it. It looks to me they are just soaking up any revenue they can make off their legacy videos. What people don't realize is mud wrestling (especially on the magnitude they were doing it) takes A LOT out of you both financially and logistically. Keeping it sustainable is tough. I bought all the ones I was interested in a while ago and ditched Sinx shortly after
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
Thanks for taking the relay, I agree financial and effort of producing mud wrestling must be very high. I think one of the method that allwam and messy-wrestling used to save on those was to shoot with 10-12 models at one event. That way they setup lighting/ mud pit / helpers / cleanup etc only once and would have material for months after that.. upfront cost is large but theres economy of scale for sure . Throw in some models that stay clothed in the mix and you will also save a bit.
Cheers
wam_guevara said:
Thanks for taking the relay, I agree financial and effort of producing mud wrestling must be very high. I think one of the method that allwam and messy-wrestling used to save on those was to shoot with 10-12 models at one event. That way they setup lighting/ mud pit / helpers / cleanup etc only once and would have material for months after that.. upfront cost is large but theres economy of scale for sure . Throw in some models that stay clothed in the mix and you will also save a bit.
Cheers
Nostalgic Erotica Prod said:
These guys have went the way of the dodo and haven't produced anything "new" in years which is sad as I totally agree that their content had a lot of great elements going for it. It looks to me they are just soaking up any revenue they can make off their legacy videos. What people don't realize is mud wrestling (especially on the magnitude they were doing it) takes A LOT out of you both financially and logistically. Keeping it sustainable is tough. I bought all the ones I was interested in a while ago and ditched Sinx shortly after
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
TywinLannister64 said: https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
These guys have went the way of the dodo and haven't produced anything "new" in years which is sad as I totally agree that their content had a lot of great elements going for it. It looks to me they are just soaking up any revenue they can make off their legacy videos. What people don't realize is mud wrestling (especially on the magnitude they were doing it) takes A LOT out of you both financially and logistically. Keeping it sustainable is tough. I bought all the ones I was interested in a while ago and ditched Sinx shortly after
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
Thanks for taking the relay, I agree financial and effort of producing mud wrestling must be very high. I think one of the method that allwam and messy-wrestling used to save on those was to shoot with 10-12 models at one event. That way they setup lighting/ mud pit / helpers / cleanup etc only once and would have material for months after that.. upfront cost is large but theres economy of scale for sure . Throw in some models that stay clothed in the mix and you will also save a bit.
Cheers
Yeah, That's what I do mostly (albeit a lot smaller scale). Shoot as many scenes with as many as you can fit in a certain time period but never have I done it on their scale or magnitude. 4-5 wrestlers/models is my limit unless I manage to wrangle or train up an assistant. I already have to direct my second camera, run sound/Ableton Live, Vista/DMX lighting and run the other camera among everything else that goes on behind the scenes. Adding 4-5 more ladies to all that would be chaos for me.
I did rather enjoy and miss the spontaneity they would implement which is partly why I don't script scenes heavily. It's wrestling! It's supposed to have an err of improv and spontaneity!
Making smut is easy. Making art takes more!
TywinLannister64 said:
It's a shame i would love to find that old stuff from 2004- 2009 ... I'm missing a lot of it.
but guess it's been wiped off the internet. can't buy it anywhere, i'd pay 15-20$ per clip easy.
sadblue said:
Last time I had a subscription to Sinx (probably just before or after pandemic started in the US), they were doing an original WAM scene maybe once every five months, and they were all pretty minor messes, nothing like the stuff they produced when Barbara Summer was in charge of things ten to fifteen years ago (multi-girl mud or oil wrestling, huge pie fights, slime scenes etc). As you've said, mostly what they do these days is re-upload old stuff, but nothing before 2011. I'm guessing whoever sold them the catalogue didn't sell them the rights to everything. If it were me, I wouldn't bother.
TywinLannister64 said: https://www.messy-wrestling.com/
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
there was never anything as good as their mud wrestling videos from the 2006 - 2010
but they've been pretty radio silent since 2015 or so. no new content at all, just reuploading old shit.
but i'd love to have never seen before camera angles from the old stuff (like they seem to promise on their website)_
(Or if there's a Christmas miracle. New stuff being filmed)
thing is it's hard to tell, you need to have a full on subscription to see the previews or what's new
can someone with a subscrition tell me if there's anything new or different since the last few years?
I already have most clip that we're on Sinx, so unless I'm 100% sure there's a difference and it's not just website that looks difference, I'm not getting a subscription.
I'm still missing a lot of older scenes that they never uploaded to Sinx, hopefully these will come out soon.
Last time I had a subscription to Sinx (probably just before or after pandemic started in the US), they were doing an original WAM scene maybe once every five months, and they were all pretty minor messes, nothing like the stuff they produced when Barbara Summer was in charge of things ten to fifteen years ago (multi-girl mud or oil wrestling, huge pie fights, slime scenes etc). As you've said, mostly what they do these days is re-upload old stuff, but nothing before 2011. I'm guessing whoever sold them the catalogue didn't sell them the rights to everything. If it were me, I wouldn't bother.
It's a shame i would love to find that old stuff from 2004- 2009 ... I'm missing a lot of it.
but guess it's been wiped off the internet. can't buy it anywhere, i'd pay 15-20$ per clip easy.
Clips4sale.com have a heap of them & they look like they're from around 2006/09 vintage
These guys have went the way of the dodo and haven't produced anything "new" in years which is sad as I totally agree that their content had a lot of great elements going for it. It looks to me they are just soaking up any revenue they can make off their legacy videos. What people don't realize is mud wrestling (especially on the magnitude they were doing it) takes A LOT out of you both financially and logistically. Keeping it sustainable is tough. I bought all the ones I was interested in a while ago and ditched Sinx shortly after
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
Having said that, we're picking up where they left off so be ready for a little bit of new mixed with the old including fully clothed posh looking ladies catfighting it out in the mud pit
Well could be interesting, what I liked about the allwam stuff was lots of hot models,
variety in the oufits,
but my favorite part were all the models around the pit geting thrown in.
wasn't a fan of the clothe ripping tho,
so if your stuff as all these elements, ill check it out when it comes out
Last time I had a subscription to Sinx (probably just before or after pandemic started in the US), they were doing an original WAM scene maybe once every five months, and they were all pretty minor messes, nothing like the stuff they produced when Barbara Summer was in charge of things ten to fifteen years ago (multi-girl mud or oil wrestling, huge pie fights, slime scenes etc). As you've said, mostly what they do these days is re-upload old stuff, but nothing before 2011. I'm guessing whoever sold them the catalogue didn't sell them the rights to everything. If it were me, I wouldn't bother.
It's a shame i would love to find that old stuff from 2004- 2009 ... I'm missing a lot of it.
but guess it's been wiped off the internet. can't buy it anywhere, i'd pay 15-20$ per clip easy.
Clips4sale.com have a heap of them & they look like they're from around 2006/09 vintage
I already bought all of those a while ago, terrible quality paid like 200$ and there's a lot of the old stuff pre 2007 missing.
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