Hi. So my messy fetish is starting to evolve. I used to just enjoy watching (Females) get messy. I'm now starting to enjoy getting messy to. So my question to anyone who does it is does selling content make money? I have loads of female videos I've produced im considering posting but is it worth venturing into shooting myself?

As a couple into WAM and creating content, we've noticed that demand isn't as high as for female-centered content. However, there's a strong and incredibly supportive community here for male content creators. Things like funding, filming setups, and finding time all play an integral role. I'd suggest starting slow by posting a few clips and pictures, then gradually building from there.

We did a few Male Wam videos with the Dunk Tank,Dunk Tank Guys.

They were no where near as popular as the Female videos but did have a bit of a following. They were fun to do and we did them off of the back of the female videos we were shooting so we covered the cost of the videos with the female video sales. We couldn't have done them without that.

As with many Wam videos and producers, if you are paying for a model and gunge then it can be difficult to break even let alone be profitable unless you look to doing customs.

Some shoots make a profit, others less so. The most important thing with male wam seems to be the model. If people don't find him attractive, they aren't buying.

My advice, make some simple content (a few pies or a bucket of slime) and see if it sells on UMD. As a general rule, the most vocal people buy absolutely nothing, so just make the content you want to see!

I tend to turn a profit on all my scenes, but it's nothing too crazy. There's a lot of buyers out there for male content, I can say that for sure

Define "profitable"

If you mean any individual scene is going to make it's money back within a set timeframe, No.

If you mean over time, as you gain a name for yourself and get repeat customers and a back catalog, keeping your expenses reasonable, you can start to have consistent net profit: Yes.

But it takes a major investment in time and money, a fairly consistent release schedule, and a customer base.

I just want to say I appreciate the male wam producers
You guys all have a nice little pocket/segment that you compete in and I appreciate your efforts

I'm not trying to high jack the thread but this conversation makes me wonder if male wam would be more profitable if more producers had more sketch, scripted or game style wam more in the way of messygirl.com or the man and wife. I personally have a ton of fun sketch, slapstick and game ideas that I don't know what to do with.

Well, we have a lot of those on our site and based on experience, I would say No .

As others have mentioned it seems to be model first and above all (more so, in my experience than with the female wam).

Only recently started selling clips I've been filming over the years. And so far, no it's not profitable.

I didnt expect to sell much, my older videos are lower quality, and the mess is lower quality too.

I'm definitely looking for more ideas; although I'm getting a new job soon so will probably have very little time to make new content. Games is something I thought about, but I can't think of a way to make it work solo.

It used to be. I have no idea what its like now because I stopped 10 years ago but I used to do fairly well. It got worse and worse over the years so not sure what its like now but yeah there was time when it was pretty profitable.

If you're lucky, you might break even on average. I've got scenes I thought were good that have only sold a few copies, but then others that I thought were OK went on to sell more than I expected. If you're just treating it as a bit of a fun hobby and you're just recording yourself you'll probably eventually get back the costs of supplies.

But if you're thinking you can make a good profit, that's probably not going to happen.

QuizBob was my only source of income for almost 5 years, but download sales alone wouldn't have been enough to make a living. Same with the visitor experiences, the income from those wouldn't have been enough by themselves. The two together were what allowed me to make a very modest living from it. (I also fully admit that I am fortunate enough to be located ideally for experience visitors and models from all over the UK!)

One reason for me moving away from QuizBob was down to insane levels of file sharing. And I've written at length before about it, so I won't repeat myself again, except to say every time someone trades a download, that denies the original producer a potential sale and makes it more likely they will just stop making new content.

If you enjoy the content someone has made, please buy it, don't trade it.


I've had that too, a sure-fire hit selling really well for the first few hours before petering out just as quickly. I noticed that one of the earliest to buy these downloads would be the same person, someone who I've recently been able to confirm is a prolific file sharer, so was likely trading it as soon as they'd bought it. (They're no longer a member of this site but happy to compare notes privately with other male WAM producers!)

My advice for anyone starting to produce content now who is aiming to make a profit would be use a streaming model rather than selling download. That makes it more difficult for people to trade the content you've worked hard to create.

Your idea that "there is Nothing to say that older guys wouldn't sell videos as much the younger guys do" - I'd be interested to know what you're basing this on, since from my perspective, with over 6 years of sales figures across almost 200 downloads, my data says exactly the opposite.

Perhaps from your own perspective as a viewer, you personally might be happy to purchase just as much content featuring older guys as younger guys. But even if (and it's a big "if"!) that was the case, you would still very much be in a minority.

Any QuizBob models (note, that's actual paid models - not volunteer wammers!) over the age of 30, never mind 40, are all among the lowest selling downloads on the site.

As I mentioned previously, I couldn't make a living from download sales alone. I can't speak for other producers, many make content as a hobby and are perhaps just looking to cover costs (particularly with male wam which as previously discussed is a much smaller market anyway).

But as a self-employed producer running a small business, shooting content that would appeal to the most amount of viewers was incredibly important. Selling just enough downloads to cover the basic costs of production would have been a disaster and I'd have gone out of business.

Offering your services as a model to wam producers for free isn't of much benefit if the content produced from it won't sell well. If using volunteers of all ages resulted in sales as good as using younger and/or paid models, producers would be doing that all the time!

But it doesn't work like that. The youngest model on QuizBob has sold over 4 times as many downloads as the oldest model. Viewers vote with their wallet, so producers make content that they know stands a better chance of selling well.

Wam producers are not charities. You can still book experiences with multiple producers if you want to take part and support their work. (That's not a plug, incidentally, as QuizBob don't do them anymore!)

Or, put your money where your mouth is and set up a wam production of your own! Then you can feature whoever you want to invite on of any age and prove me wrong

This is fascinating. Are you saying straight guy wammers are unconcerned if the woman targeted is attractive or not?

Not only did you have a lot of hot guys, but you had skits. For me, a fake scenario, no matter how contrived, goes a long way.

That was my point too

I wouldn't agree with that one! Step one of a great pie or slime film involves having a beautiful model. Although amount of mess, reaction to the experience, acting skills, etc will add to the overall appeal and can make a model hotter in my eyes.
Having produced a lot of content myself, mainly for a male audience, I do make sure I get a good workout and pump in before I get on camera.
Regardless of sex and sexuality, I think we all look with our eyes first when selecting content.

Additional question is male feet wam profitable? Might me an easier way to transition into full videos thoughts?

The subcategory stuff is always going to be profitable if you have what your customer is looking for, but it generally won't appeal to your mass consumer at the same time if done correctly. Your foot fetish folks want a foot-centric video, not just a few close-ups of your feet...and they deserve it if they're paying you for it!
But the niche market within the niche market is a legit payday--I always do well on a foot or armpit video.
But part of making good quality and profitable content is commitment to the purchaser. I like green slime, most customers want to see me in blue...so I get slopped in blue. Get to know your feet folks and figure out what they want to see from you.

I'm not sure but reading this thread to me is enlightening
Especially the numbers and data on demand