I've just spotted that my Friends count has reduced by one, and realised it's Anna/Messy Lady v2 that's gone. Darn. It was great to see her unexpected comeback last year, and I swapped some messages with her as I remember her first time around. She was as friendly in replies as she was then and seemed very enthusiastic about being back, going by how regularly she was posting scenes. But now her profile's showing as removed. Damn. That is a loss.
Darn, that is a shame. I noticed they were much less interactive the last couple of months and broke from their usual posting schedule. Hopefully they're ok.
priorities change, stuff that was fun becomes profitable, profit leads to work and once things become more work than profit (or fun), it's time to move on. that's why it's important to enjoy these models while you can. let them know how much they are appreciated the best you can. buy videos, love pictures, and if they are open to it, send them messages about what you love about their work. but mostly buy their videos, cause i imagine just the cleanup for a video would be a ton of work. it's up to us to make it worth their time.
always remember AI sucks (ones and zeros are not sexy), support new models the best you can, tip your wait staff, you don't have to go home but you can't stay here, miss you mrs. b.
or maybe she just found something else she likes to do. more power to her.
Dammit. Goddamnit. She seemed pretty cool, and that twinkle in her eyes really showed that she loved what she was doing.
Sure, maybe she'll come back again sometime (and I hope they're well), but fuck me if "don't get attached" isn't the thing I hate most about kink life.
I am sure we can guess why Bratty tried to tell us so did many others. It will no doubt be 1 of 3 things creeps, money or putting up with the creeps was not worth the money.
Man, folks always scare off the most sincere and REAL wammers in the community. Hopefully everything is well with Lady, we were lucky to have such great content while it lasted.
Yeah, I was very disappointed to see that this morning! We chatted very regularly on here (and it wasn't me bugging her, she was a proactive chatter and we'd discuss other interests besides WAM like film and whatnot). Thankfully I got a custom from her (the black grease scene and the coed aftermath), and I had hoped to get another. No idea what happened. As much as we blame creeps (with good reason), I don't want to jump the gun because it may have nothing to do with that at all. For all we know, it's temporary and she may return again someday.
So yeah, it sucks, especially since she had a mud scene in the pipeline, but it happens. Glad I wasted no time in getting my most wanted scenes from her store. Her solo mud scene last year kind of broke my brain with how awesome it was.
This has been a rough ride, lost my dog on Tuesday, my wife left me on Thursday, I heard my Uncle has stage IV metastatic lung cancer this morning and now this. Ugh what a bad week.
BSWAL28 said: Man, folks always scare off the most sincere and REAL wammers in the community.
So true. There's a reason my wife Chloe doesn't engage here anymore. What was fun became tiring, dealing with demands ("You should have done this, that was wrong, I like this specific thing!" on free content), dealing with creeps, dealing with people promising to buy customs but getting kicks from just talking about it, and constant messages from people assuming that she lives, breathes and sleeps WAM.
As an overweight, balding, middle-aged man, I clearly don't hold quite the same appeal!
BSWAL28 said: Man, folks always scare off the most sincere and REAL wammers in the community.
So true. There's a reason my wife Chloe doesn't engage here anymore. What was fun became tiring, dealing with demands ("You should have done this, that was wrong, I like this specific thing!" on free content), dealing with creeps, dealing with people promising to buy customs but getting kicks from just talking about it, and constant messages from people assuming that she lives, breathes and sleeps WAM.
As an overweight, balding, middle-aged man, I clearly don't hold quite the same appeal!
Messy Violet is not on here much for the same sort of reason creepy messages people going super sexual in the first message. There is was also issues with how reports were dealt with etc. Yes it's true people move on etc but women sure as hell seem to move on a lot lot more. Until there is a proper zero tolerance approach on here I think that will continue.
Piemaster1980 said: I am sure we can guess why Bratty tried to tell us so did many others. It will no doubt be 1 of 3 things creeps, money or putting up with the creeps was not worth the money.
I don't want to confirm anything for her, but to the best of my knowledge Bratty is not "gone," just on a hiatus due to being busy. The thing that led her away initially though was creeps pirating her scenes/uploading to other sites.
WAMOptimist93 said: Yeah, I was very disappointed to see that this morning! We chatted very regularly on here (and it wasn't me bugging her, she was a proactive chatter and we'd discuss other interests besides WAM like film and whatnot). Thankfully I got a custom from her (the black grease scene and the coed aftermath), and I had hoped to get another. No idea what happened. As much as we blame creeps (with good reason), I don't want to jump the gun because it may have nothing to do with that at all. For all we know, it's temporary and she may return again someday.
So yeah, it sucks, especially since she had a mud scene in the pipeline, but it happens. Glad I wasted no time in getting my most wanted scenes from her store. Her solo mud scene last year kind of broke my brain with how awesome it was.
yes, her mud scene on the riverbank was amazing. I don't involve my wife in my public posted wam scenes because I don't want her enjoyment of it with me to be colored by maybe bad or invasive comments from idiots. LIke I don't know if there would be issues but I rather avoid it and keep our couple vids private, I enjoy sharing my solo content though although I have considered at times due to the increasing fanatical puritanical the world/usa is getting of pulling back my sharing as well.
RyuuWammer said: yes, her mud scene on the riverbank was amazing. I don't involve my wife in my public posted wam scenes because I don't want her enjoyment of it with me to be colored by maybe bad or invasive comments from idiots. LIke I don't know if there would be issues but I rather avoid it and keep our couple vids private, I enjoy sharing my solo content though although I have considered at times due to the increasing fanatical puritanical the world/usa is getting of pulling back my sharing as well.
That's an incredibly valid concern regarding you and your wife, and I don't blame you at all! And yeah, there is a negative trend of puritan culture being pushed in the USA for sure, but in the meantime I'm glad your videos/pics are still up in defiance of that.
This is a real shame, it had been so good to have her back here, and she seemed to be really enthusiastic about producing new content - she also appeared to be having a great time doing so. Her latest Pie Barrage video was superb.
I hope that whatever has caused her sudden disapperance, she is well and happy.
That is really sad to notice she is gone. We had some conversations about doing a scene together. Damn, we had to make it happen allready !. Anna is/was a real cutie. I really hope she is coming back!
Piemaster1980 said: Until there is a proper zero tolerance approach on here I think that will continue.
I 100% agree. MM needs to stop protecting the creeps and let them be called out screenshots and all. I think the number of creeps would drop if they were allowed to be called out with screenshots. Yeah I know it takes 5 minutes to create an account, but still. There are patterns of behavior that could be used and called out to help the people here who are getting harassed.
6/26/26, 6:14pm: User says admin protects creeps but has not flagged any creeps. We advise everyone to flag anything they find suspicious.
Piemaster1980 said: Until there is a proper zero tolerance approach on here I think that will continue.
I 100% agree. MM needs to stop protecting the creeps and let them be called out screenshots and all. I think the number of creeps would drop if they were allowed to be called out with screenshots. Yeah I know it takes 5 minutes to create an account, but still. There are patterns of behavior that could be used and called out to help the people here who are getting harassed.
Great idea I think MM should have a 48 hour purge where people can post the most horrendous things from their inbox (obv no doxing real details but usernames on full view). This community has issues and the community are the only ones who can fix it.
6/26/26, 6:17pm: Everyone is advised to please flag anything they find suspicious. We have no outstanding flags about this at this time but will research every tip sent in.
Piemaster1980 said: Until there is a proper zero tolerance approach on here I think that will continue.
I 100% agree. MM needs to stop protecting the creeps and let them be called out screenshots and all. I think the number of creeps would drop if they were allowed to be called out with screenshots. Yeah I know it takes 5 minutes to create an account, but still. There are patterns of behavior that could be used and called out to help the people here who are getting harassed.
Woah! Easy does it guys.
Like I am all for flaming creepy fucks in DMs over a good BBQ but:
1) We have no confirmation that is the reason she has been absent.
2) This is the same community that was in an uproar when they found out MM has unfiltered access to our PMs. He isn't just gonna ok a "name and shame" campaign.
I get if people were faithfully flagging this shit, and maybe they are but we have no evidence to know what is or isn't happening behind the scenes in people's inboxes. We can speculate but that is hardly evidence. Women, sadly don't publicly come forward on here enough (and maybe we earned that) to have any sort of understanding how big the problem is. "Fixing" the issue should start with giving women a safe outlet to share their experiences without 15 some off guys chiming in with "Oh that sucks. Please don't close your store" or similar useless anecdotes.
Maybe Name and shame is a part of that, maybe it isn't but the chief issue will always fall onto the fact that women do not feel that they are being heard when it comes to any user or producer being problematic. That isn't just Messmaster's job.
Piemaster1980 said: Until there is a proper zero tolerance approach on here I think that will continue.
I 100% agree. MM needs to stop protecting the creeps and let them be called out screenshots and all. I think the number of creeps would drop if they were allowed to be called out with screenshots. Yeah I know it takes 5 minutes to create an account, but still. There are patterns of behavior that could be used and called out to help the people here who are getting harassed.
Woah! Easy does it guys.
Like I am all for flaming creepy fucks in DMs over a good BBQ but:
1) We have no confirmation that is the reason she has been absent.
2) This is the same community that was in an uproar when they found out MM has unfiltered access to our PMs. He isn't just gonna ok a "name and shame" campaign.
I get if people were faithfully flagging this shit, and maybe they are but we have no evidence to know what is or isn't happening behind the scenes in people's inboxes. We can speculate but that is hardly evidence. Women, sadly don't publicly come forward on here enough (and maybe we earned that) to have any sort of understanding how big the problem is. "Fixing" the issue should start with giving women a safe outlet to share their experiences without 15 some off guys chiming in with "Oh that sucks. Please don't close your store" or similar useless anecdotes.
Maybe Name and shame is a part of that, maybe it isn't but the chief issue will always fall onto the fact that women do not feel that they are being heard when it comes to any user or producer being problematic. That isn't just Messmaster's job.
They have spoken out and its been and is largely ignored. Messy Violet has raised.a.number of issues and tried to make things better, pretty much nothing was done. This includes reporting those tricking people into kink under the guise.of charity, someone recommending a couple that struggled to get alone time away from their teen children include them.in their wam play.
Bratty has spoken out a number of times, another producer had AI video of her doing things sent to her. Sop Slut Svt (i think that was the user) said she made.Content for a number of kinks and wammers were by far the worst) Listers Mate on here who actively tricks people on tik tok into pieing them selves and others including a pinned vid of kids doing it tot heir mother.
The accounts of boyfriends who pied their girlfriend who liked it so much they took over the account then changed their name and removed all pics etc. Now talk to other women about their wam interests. Come on theybwould make a new account to be here with their partner surely. This woman who had a.boyfriend then suddenly becomes.exclusively interested in women.
What about the Most Wam situation, we lost a number of female.members and producers like Penny because a convicted sex offender was not removed immediately.
The fact a person was able to pass as a female producer using a fake ID and because they had the verified tick went on to fool models into arriving being busy so her 'boyfriend' would look after them and do the shoot. There are definitely at least one or more verified people on here who are not who they say they are present to be.
Blocked people have used certain powers to still message people that have blocked them.I
Look at what happens when a female.account joins pic no pic AI pic the same welcoming committee friend request them within minutes and all they know about them is female.
Look above FS Billie is saying why his wife closed her account here.
I.could go.on but your right this needs to come directly from on the women on here. However when it does its important things happen or they wont keep trying and just leave or go dark.
We as a community need to do better we need to self police better and be more vocal about things
Farewell Messy Lady V2. I hope everything is alright, and I respect your decision to leave.
When people leave without saying why, I hope they left for a happy and positive reason. I hope not a sad or negative reason. People leave for private reasons (not just because of "creeps" or lack of making money).
I found Messy Lady content being pirated on a tube site. I would like to remind everyone not to do that. Shame on the person who uploaded that. It is one thing to pirate a studio producer who books models, but to pirate an individual community member's videos is so much worse. It puts people in a position where they feel they are no longer in control of their content. They need to be able to trust that the handful of people who buy their scenes are not going to share and pirate it for others to watch on tube sites. I don't know if this is why MessyLadyV2 left, but it certainly is a reason why others have left and why some never even join (because they know their content will be pirated).